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DocStrange -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 10:24:06 AM)

I find it funny how the Democrats cannot see what is right in front of them. They have lost the Senate, the House, over the years and now the Presidency and the majority of the Governors. They just do not get it that people are tired of wasteful government spending. Change is coming. The people have spoken.




Musicmystery -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 10:25:01 AM)

"goofleing"? "you ignorance"?






Wayward5oul -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 10:44:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't think that I have seen anyone say that the hacking problem is not important now,

It is all over these boards alone.


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but I saw lots of Hillary supporters tell us it was impossible last summer.

And they were wrong. That doesn't mean that it is okay to ignore it now. This isn't about her.






heavyblinker -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 10:57:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
No, I mean actual news networks.
Try goofleing what I claimed instead of taking pride in you ignorance.


I googled your bullshit and the closest thing to a legitimate site was the dailymail, which is also full of shit more often than not... and it was an allegation by a man who had been peddling conspiracy theories throughout the election.




BoscoX -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 12:17:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't think that I have seen anyone say that the hacking problem is not important now,

It is all over these boards alone.


quote:


but I saw lots of Hillary supporters tell us it was impossible last summer.

And they were wrong. That doesn't mean that it is okay to ignore it now. This isn't about her.


So, you agree that Russia is a threat now. That the situation is serious?

[image]http://i.imgur.com/14DkM73.png[/image]




Musicmystery -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 2:57:21 PM)

Of course, that also means the GOP went from worrying about Russia to deciding it was their buddy in just 4 years.

Talk about your spineless flip-flops.




mnottertail -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 3:34:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DocStrange

I find it funny how the Democrats cannot see what is right in front of them. They have lost the Senate, the House, over the years and now the Presidency and the majority of the Governors. They just do not get it that people are tired of wasteful government spending. Change is coming. The people have spoken.

No, the gerry mander and dumping the voters off the list is their big leg up. Look at the debt, real government wasteful spending is about to take a real hike.

There is nothing but waste in the nutsucker borrow and spend, and they are doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on that.


















BoscoX -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 3:51:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Of course, that also means the GOP went from worrying about Russia to deciding it was their buddy in just 4 years.

Talk about your spineless flip-flops.


The GOP in your head? Before the left lost their fucking minds they didn't want the kind of relations with anyone that the Obama White House has sunk us to either




BamaD -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 4:10:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't think that I have seen anyone say that the hacking problem is not important now,

It is all over these boards alone.


quote:


but I saw lots of Hillary supporters tell us it was impossible last summer.

And they were wrong. That doesn't mean that it is okay to ignore it now. This isn't about her.




No it isn't. They are talking about the idea that Trump should be set aside because of suspected hacking. Doing so would give the Russians exactly what they want chaos and distrust in our political system. I don't think that the alleged hacking (I say alleged because the CIA refuses to tell congress what "evidence " they have) should be allowed to set aside the election results. On the other hand I know that if I had done in the 70's (when I worked at NSA) what Hillary did I would still be in jail. If the administration had not pretended that hacking wasn't possible until the last two weeks we could have had the security fixes in place a year ago. As I said in another thread a good portion of the problem is that as long as all they were hacking was national security information Obama didn't care, but if their is political gain to be had he says it is the most important thing in the world.




mnottertail -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 4:11:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Of course, that also means the GOP went from worrying about Russia to deciding it was their buddy in just 4 years.

Talk about your spineless flip-flops.


The GOP in your head? Before the left lost their fucking minds they didn't want the kind of relations with anyone that the Obama White House has sunk us to either

Since the nutsuckers lost their minds from the outset, they want the sort of relations we had with Ws Iraq. Now they want that special relationship with the world.




BamaD -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 4:12:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
No, I mean actual news networks.
Try goofleing what I claimed instead of taking pride in you ignorance.


I googled your bullshit and the closest thing to a legitimate site was the dailymail, which is also full of shit more often than not... and it was an allegation by a man who had been peddling conspiracy theories throughout the election.

Then your computer doesn't work well, The Hill confirmed two of my statements.
Maybe you should look at some American sources and not just UK ones.

Both Reuters and the Canadian press covered the voter fraud in Dem districts in Detroit.

A few souces have covered the attempted hack of the RNC but you don't seem to be able to find that, it didn't get much coverage, after all it wrecks the narrative that the hackers werev trying to help Trump.

And if Georgia didn't get hacked why did DHS try to explain it away.




Lucylastic -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 4:14:25 PM)

You can tell when bama is talking out of his ass, he tells people to goofle things.
He doesnt do links, or explain......
he cant goofle either.




Hillwilliam -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 4:22:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't think that I have seen anyone say that the hacking problem is not important now,

It is all over these boards alone.


quote:


but I saw lots of Hillary supporters tell us it was impossible last summer.

And they were wrong. That doesn't mean that it is okay to ignore it now. This isn't about her.


So, you agree that Russia is a threat now. That the situation is serious?

[image]http://i.imgur.com/14DkM73.png[/image]

Russia has been a threat since George Patton wanted to keep going.

Unfortunately, there are a hell of a lot of Trump supporters who feel otherwise.




BamaD -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 4:56:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
I don't think that I have seen anyone say that the hacking problem is not important now,

It is all over these boards alone.


quote:


but I saw lots of Hillary supporters tell us it was impossible last summer.

And they were wrong. That doesn't mean that it is okay to ignore it now. This isn't about her.


So, you agree that Russia is a threat now. That the situation is serious?

[image]http://i.imgur.com/14DkM73.png[/image]

Russia has been a threat since George Patton wanted to keep going.

Unfortunately, there are a hell of a lot of Trump supporters who feel otherwise.

Agreed, the Russians have always been our enemies, remember, they sided with the Nazis at the outset of the war.




mnottertail -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 6:26:16 PM)

But they are the Masters of the communist felchgobbling nutsuckers now!!!!




Edwird -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 6:31:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DocStrange
I find it funny how the Democrats cannot see what is right in front of them. They have lost the Senate, the House, over the years and now the Presidency and the majority of the Governors. They just do not get it that people are tired of wasteful government spending. Change is coming. The people have spoken.



What's funny is that you don't see what has been occurring for years already: that citizens who want a better society and less corruption have progressively come to the realization that the Democratic party is not getting the job done against the oligarchy-enabling Republicans and their wasteful government spending on wars to benefit oil companies and profligate corporate welfare schemes and bailouts as inevitable result of Republican-led deregulation, in fact too often themselves joining in that process.

The Republican surge you speak of has little to do with any switching of sides but rather increased apathy on the part of erstwhile Democratic voters.

This election slammed that point home in unmistakable fashion.




Edwird -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 6:48:43 PM)


And yes, in case the point was missed, I can assure you that I am not alone in hoping that the Democratic party goes to rot, that being the only way that some other institution could arise who at least will put up an honest fight against the other party who is so blatantly against the interests of citizens of the United States of America.




Musicmystery -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 6:54:44 PM)

Yeah, I'd love to see both "major" parties go the way of the Whigs.




itsSIRtou -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 9:24:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DocStrange

I find it funny how the Democrats cannot see what is right in front of them. They have lost the Senate, the House, over the years and now the Presidency and the majority of the Governors.
They just do not get it that people are tired of wasteful government spending. Change is coming. The people have spoken.


Evidently not that tired enough to check rump's spending and tax proposal results. Big spending on top of tax cuts has transformed an unrealistic agenda into a fantasy.

the "new king of debt's" tax-cut-chicken-in-every-pot-especially-the-rich-ones policy got rump the white house
but its going to get everyone else another recession that will make 2007 look like a Sunday school picnic by comparison. About 2018-2020....after rumps fuckup of everything else.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21707558-hillary-clintons-fiscal-plan-fiddly-donald-trumps-absurd-moneys-conversation

http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2016/08/03/how-clinton-trumps-economic-policies-might-measure-up-infographic/#6d6464102cc3


http://crfb.org/papers/adding-donald-trumps-campaign-proposals-so-far

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/president-trump-would-send-the-national-debt-soaring-2016-03-07
QUOTE: "Incidentally, while the tax cuts would be across the board, according to the Tax Policy Center, the biggest benefits would go to the top 1% of taxpayers and, indeed, to the top 0.1%. This might come as a surprise to Trump’s blue-collar, populist fan base, which sees him as their champion against the “elites.” Under Trump, the average middle-income family would save about $2,700 a year, according to the center.
The average taxpayer in the top 0.1% would save about $1.3 million."

marketwatch.com continues
"Of course, if Trump becomes president, you can expect Republicans to stop screaming about the deficit and start saying it “doesn’t matter,” Dick Cheney-style — and you also can expect Democrats to do the opposite. Trump says he will pay for his tax cuts by eliminating “waste” and “fraud.” No, he won’t. Republicans have been promising those savings since 1980. I’m still waiting. Indeed the memoir by Ronald Reagan’s first budget director, David Stockman, shows what a crock that promise was, even back then."

I find it funny how the repugnicans cannot see what is right in front of them. YOU got lied to like the rest of us and they still sold America down the river.

"tired of wastefull government spending" YOUR ASS STUPID.











Ezzcon -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 9:49:30 PM)

The thing that I find most humorous about the "Russian's hacked our e-mails and influenced the election" excuse is that the entire argument is based on the fact that they showed us our own news media was unethically colluding with HRC's side. It reminds me of having a guy on tape admitting to the murder but everyone is more upset about the illegal way his phone was tapped. Don't throw the evidence out, use it to put the murderer in prison and get the second trial going to resolve the issue of the illegal phone tapping. Same thing here... yes we need to stop the Russian's from hacking us, but don't let that divert your attention from the more important fact that OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media.




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