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heavyblinker -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/17/2016 11:27:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ezzcon OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media. I think the reason for that was more that Trump was a legitimately weak candidate and objectively unsuited for the presidency. If they had bolstered him, they would have been betraying their objectivity.

BoscoX -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 5:53:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ezzcon The thing that I find most humorous about the "Russian's hacked our e-mails and influenced the election" excuse is that the entire argument is based on the fact that they showed us our own news media was unethically colluding with HRC's side. It reminds me of having a guy on tape admitting to the murder but everyone is more upset about the illegal way his phone was tapped. Don't throw the evidence out, use it to put the murderer in prison and get the second trial going to resolve the issue of the illegal phone tapping. Same thing here... yes we need to stop the Russian's from hacking us, but don't let that divert your attention from the more important fact that OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media. The enemy without, did us a favor by exposing the enemy within.

Awareness -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 6:01:22 AM)
So let me get this straight. After excoriating Trump for possibly not accepting the election outcome, you whiny Leftists are now not accepting the election outcome and are supporting conspiracy theories about why your candidate lost. OH THE MOTHERFUCKING IRONY!

Lucylastic -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 6:15:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness So let me get this straight. After excoriating Trump for possibly not accepting the election outcome, you whiny Leftists are now not accepting the election outcome and are supporting conspiracy theories about why your candidate lost. OH THE MOTHERFUCKING IRONY! Of course you have the definitive information that makes your beliefs correct...super secwet knowledge that you can vewify:) and are just here to inform us that we are whiny...lol, yeah, thats some irony right there.

BoscoX -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 6:23:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SecondBestBoy Two years ago these people were howling about how awful Putin was - and they were right, look at the slaughter of children and innocents in Aleppo that Putin is party to. Now all of a sudden it's okay to cede the American White House to the guy. A lot of straw being thrown around lately. Brain-dead Musical claims that anyone who supports Donald Trump has to love the Soviet system. You are claiming that "these people" were (every one of us) "howling" about Russia "slaughtering innocents" in Aleppo. Aleppo is a complicated situation, and there are a lot of dirty hands involved with the slaughter there. Wikileaks has suggested that a friend of Hillary has been profiting from that slaughter. Vladimir Putin is fighting ISIS there, and ISIS are the worst. Who is Obama selling weapons to in the area. The problem there is only black and white too fools like you. I suggest that you try to pull your head out of your ass, before it's too late and your brain damage caused by asphyxiation becomes even more severe than it currently is.

blnymph -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 6:36:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX ... Vladimir Putin is fighting ISIS there, and ISIS are the worst. ... That' the official Russian version - but ISIS isn't in Aleppo. Syrian army rebels are, and al-noosra, American supported groups. ISIS retook Palmyra, and is fighting around Mossul.

BoscoX -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 7:03:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX ... Vladimir Putin is fighting ISIS there, and ISIS are the worst. ... That' the official Russian version - but ISIS isn't in Aleppo. Syrian army rebels are, and al-noosra, American supported groups. ISIS retook Palmyra, and is fighting around Mossul. There is debate, it's not all black and white. The alt left is still screaming about Reagan arming the Taliban vs. the Soviets yet here we have Barack Obama arming Muslim "rebels" against Russia after assisting ISIS in Libya by helping murder Gaddafi For morons like musical to claim that anyone not in lockstep with the Hillary goosestep loves the Soviets is insane.

mnottertail -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 7:40:36 AM)
For nutsucker morons like inSanity, here are some facts: The US did nothing to murder the terrorist and American citizen killer, Kaddafi. He did that to himself, with his own people. ISIS was not armed by the US The arming of rebels is Kurds. Its not against Russia, it is against the Syrian strongman dictator. For felchgobblers like inSanity, et al, they rely on their great dildo in a necktie, old: "Facts are stupid things", St. Wrinklemeat. Their collective alzheimers is the fundamental ideology of these nutsucker goons and thugs.

WhoreMods -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 7:54:07 AM)
The monolithic lockstep left whose candidate failed to win because most of them couldn't be bothered to vote for her, you mean? Yep, obviously the left is a far more homogenised group than the right.

Musicmystery -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 11:47:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness So let me get this straight. After excoriating Trump for possibly not accepting the election outcome, you whiny Leftists are now not accepting the election outcome and are supporting conspiracy theories about why your candidate lost. OH THE MOTHERFUCKING IRONY! Hilary lost due to unabashed hubris in place of a coherent agenda. Trump won because all the candidates in this election sucked, and the sheep wouldn't accept en mass that they didn't have to vote for major party candidates.

heavyblinker -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 12:59:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Hilary lost due to unabashed hubris in place of a coherent agenda. Trump won because all the candidates in this election sucked, and the sheep wouldn't accept en mass that they didn't have to vote for major party candidates. No, Hillary lost because real political issues are complicated and can't be easily boiled down to simplistic talking points. Trump won because he doesn't understand or care about this, and neither did the people who voted for him. I'm not defending Hillary's positions... she's a hawk, a globalist, elitist, etc... but she knows how to run a country. Maybe telling people she's going to tax the rich and keep inching the country closer to democratic socialism over the long term doesn't have the bite or flair of blaming Mexicans and Islam and China for everyone's problems, but it's a solid, respectable vision.

Musicmystery -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 1:17:03 PM)
Hilary ran on "I'm a woman and I'm not Trump." Not really a rallying cry. That's why she lost. And pissing off half the Democrats with the DNC's shenanigans in the primary.

BoscoX -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 1:37:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Hilary ran on "I'm a woman and I'm not Trump." Not really a rallying cry. That's why she lost. And pissing off half the Democrats with the DNC's shenanigans in the primary. More ignorance and stupidity. Everything you know, you pull out of your ass, don't you, carnival monkey? Hillary's actual campaign platform, from her website: A fair tax system Making sure the wealthy, Wall Street, and corporations pay their fair share in taxes. Read more Addiction and substance use Through improved treatment, prevention, and training, we can end this quiet epidemic once and for all. Read more An economy that works for everyone We need to build an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. Read more An end to Alzheimer's disease We can prevent, effectively treat, and make an Alzheimer’s cure possible by 2025. Read more Autism Millions of Americans live with autism—and we’ve got to do more to support them and their families. Read more Campaign finance reform Our democracy should work for everyone, not just the wealthy and well-connected. Read more Campus sexual assault It's not enough to condemn campus sexual assault. We need to end it. Read more Climate change Taking on the threat of climate change and making America the world’s clean energy superpower. Read more Combating terrorism and keeping the homeland safe It’s not enough to contain ISIS and the threat of terrorism—we have to defeat it. Read more Criminal justice reform Our criminal justice system is out of balance. Read more Disability rights We must continue to expand opportunities for Americans with disabilities. Read more Early childhood education Every child deserves the chance to live up to his or her God-given potential. Read more Fixing America's infrastructure Strong infrastructure is critical to a strong economy. Read more Gun violence prevention We can—and must—end the epidemic of gun violence. Read more Health care Universal, quality, affordable health care for everyone in America Read more HIV and AIDS We have reached a critical moment in our fight against HIV and AIDS. Read more Housing We need housing policies that connect working families to opportunity. Read more Immigration reform We need comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to full and equal citizenship. Read more Jobs and wages We can make the boldest investment in good-paying jobs since World War II. Read more K-12 education Strong public education is the key to preparing our children for the future. Read more Labor and workers’ rights When unions are strong, America is strong. Read more LGBT rights and equality Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans deserve to live their lives free from discrimination. Read more Making college debt-free and taking on student debt Hillary will make debt-free college available to everyone and take on student loan debt. Read more Manufacturing Hillary Clinton’s plan to strengthen manufacturing so we always “Make it in America.” Read more Mental health We have to address the mental health crisis in America and end the stigma and shame associated with treatment. Read more Military and defense We should maintain the best-trained, best-equipped, and strongest military the world has ever known. Read more National security With policies that keep us strong and safe, America will lead the world in the 21st century. Read more National service Do all the good you can. Read more Paid family and medical leave It's time to guarantee paid family and medical leave in America. Read more Poverty No child should ever have to grow up in poverty. Read more Protecting animals and wildlife The way our society treats animals is a reflection of our humanity. Read more Racial justice America’s long struggle with race is far from finished. Read more Rural communities America’s rural communities are the backbone of this country. Read more Small business We have to level the playing field for America’s small businesses. Read more Social Security and Medicare We must preserve, protect, and strengthen these lifelines. Read more Technology and innovation We can harness the power of technology and innovation to work for all Americans. Read more Veterans, the armed forces, and their families America must fully commit to supporting veterans. Read more Voting rights We should be making it easier to vote, not harder. Read more Wall Street reform Wall Street must work for Main Street. Read more Women's rights and opportunity We need to break down barriers that hold women back. Read more Workforce skills and job training Every American should be able to learn the skills they need to compete and succeed. Read more

tamaka -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 8:43:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ezzcon The thing that I find most humorous about the "Russian's hacked our e-mails and influenced the election" excuse is that the entire argument is based on the fact that they showed us our own news media was unethically colluding with HRC's side. It reminds me of having a guy on tape admitting to the murder but everyone is more upset about the illegal way his phone was tapped. Don't throw the evidence out, use it to put the murderer in prison and get the second trial going to resolve the issue of the illegal phone tapping. Same thing here... yes we need to stop the Russian's from hacking us, but don't let that divert your attention from the more important fact that OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media. And it backfired on them bigtime!

BamaD -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 8:58:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Ezzcon OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media. I think the reason for that was more that Trump was a legitimately weak candidate and objectively unsuited for the presidency. If they had bolstered him, they would have been betraying their objectivity. They flat out stated that they had no reason to be objective about Trump. And if you think that was just about Trump the why did the first moderator for not giving Obama extra time against Romney and the other two actively helped Obama with Crowley actually lying to help Obama?

mnottertail -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/18/2016 11:58:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Ezzcon OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media. I think the reason for that was more that Trump was a legitimately weak candidate and objectively unsuited for the presidency. If they had bolstered him, they would have been betraying their objectivity. They flat out stated that they had no reason to be objective about Trump. And if you think that was just about Trump the why did the first moderator for not giving Obama extra time against Romney and the other two actively helped Obama with Crowley actually lying to help Obama? The lies are provably from the welfare patient nutsuckers at this point, regardless of their English as a no language.

blnymph -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/19/2016 2:19:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX ... Vladimir Putin is fighting ISIS there, and ISIS are the worst. ... That' the official Russian version - but ISIS isn't in Aleppo. Syrian army rebels are, and al-noosra, American supported groups. ISIS retook Palmyra, and is fighting around Mossul. There is debate, it's not all black and white. ... There not much to debate concerning where ISIS is and is not these days. There is reconnaissance from the air and regular evaluation of the few available informations of the situation on the ground. Maybe not published where you are.

heavyblinker -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/19/2016 2:58:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD They flat out stated that they had no reason to be objective about Trump. The media as a whole said this? quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD And if you think that was just about Trump the why did the first moderator for not giving Obama extra time against Romney and the other two actively helped Obama with Crowley actually lying to help Obama? Why are you talking about this? I was talking about the media.

Greta75 -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/19/2016 3:01:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Hilary ran on "I'm a woman and I'm not Trump." Not really a rallying cry. That's why she lost. THIS^ is probably the only thing I am ever gonna be agreeing with you about.

Greta75 -> RE: FBI agrees with CIA: Russia helped Trump take White House (12/19/2016 3:06:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ezzcon The thing that I find most humorous about the "Russian's hacked our e-mails and influenced the election" excuse is that the entire argument is based on the fact that they showed us our own news media was unethically colluding with HRC's side. It reminds me of having a guy on tape admitting to the murder but everyone is more upset about the illegal way his phone was tapped. Don't throw the evidence out, use it to put the murderer in prison and get the second trial going to resolve the issue of the illegal phone tapping. Same thing here... yes we need to stop the Russian's from hacking us, but don't let that divert your attention from the more important fact that OUR OWN NEWS MEDIA WAS TRYING TO UNETHICALLY SWAY THE ELECTION. We should expect that behavior from our enemies and do things to guard against it, but we should not tolerate it from our own news media. ^PRECISELY! All the Russians did was expose emails. Fact is, Hillary was careless with her emails. That's her own fault. It's like you know how Yahoo got hacked for 1billion contact details? I am blaming THAT on Yahoo for being negligent on their security, NOT Russian Hackers. And INFACT, another thing is, Yahoo has been secretly "legally" hacked by the US government too. Secret hacking allowed for US Government to mine information. Yahoo security team trace the hackers to the US Government. Hell the fact that there are all these things! We don't even know IF Russians really hacked those emails. And I am seriously worried that the Media is so unrepentant about their bias reporting. That media wants to continue to play the role of influencing people's decisions and mind. They tried their utmost best to discredit and ridicule Trump.

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