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tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:20:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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Of course you are. Well you can start out by having a period every month and then you may start talking about how we are equal.


Oh, okay. I've been told. I'm not allowed to have a say because I don't have a vagina....unless I be a useful idiot and be a gynocentrist


No... but you can't say you are equal to something you can never relate to. So you are being ignorant in trying to do so.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:25:08 PM)

Woman/employee: Can I get equal pay? I'm an equal and I want equality.

Me/employer: No... but you can't say you are equal to something you can never relate to. So you are being ignorant in trying to do so.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:26:51 PM)

I find it amusing how you think having periods makes you any special compared to another human being.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:30:26 PM)

That's right. We may want to be valued for specific things, but to lay out a blanket statement that we are 'Equal' is absurd.




angelikaJ -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:31:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen
Bla, bla, bla...[typical ignorant blather]


You would save yourself so much time if you just copy and pasted the above.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:31:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

I find it amusing how you think having periods makes you any special compared to another human being.


Try it sometime and then we'll talk about it.




angelikaJ -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:33:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

I find it amusing how you think having periods makes you any special compared to another human being.


“Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have invariably wound up with the dirty end of the stick. What they are and what they can do makes them superior to men, and their proper tactic is to demand special privileges, all the traffic will bear. They should never settle merely for equality. For women, "equality" is a disaster.” Robert A. Heinlein




Diffident -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 3:51:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Here is a little bit of clue for you....
The Surprising Symptoms of Heart Disease: The No. 1 Killer in Women (Video)
Learn what you need to know about this silent killer

The Surprising Symptoms of Heart Disease: The No. 1 Killer in Women (Video)
Heart disease is the No. 1 killer in women, yet many women aren’t familiar with possible symptoms of coronary artery disease (CAD) that should be brought to their primary care physician’s attention.

Heart disease is caused by atherosclerosis, or plaque-clogged arteries that restrict blood flow to the heart. From a biological standpoint, that’s no different in men than it is in women.

However, there are differences in the way women’s blood vessels respond to the atherosclerosis, which can cause some women to present with atypical symptoms of heart disease. While we commonly hear about heart disease causing chest pressure or tightness and shortness of breath, some women may instead experience atypical symptoms such as back pain, rapid heartbeat, nausea or fatigue.

In this video, Leslie Cho, MD, Director of Cleveland Clinic’s Women’s Cardiovascular Center, explains:

I suggest if you want more information on it, you do some research.
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/2015/12/the-surprising-symptoms-of-heart-disease-the-no-1-killer-in-women-video/
https://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fs_women_heart.htm


If you want to know WHY there is interest in womens heart problems???? Because for decades, most heart studies and investigative research were done on men... when women were found to have the same structure, they didnt do deeper research until women were dying with different symptoms to men,
But...biologically we have different responses. to many things.
so, to address the problem, womens heart issues are slightly different.
its not something we can change...sorry, oh and heart research is ongoing, for both...
you poor, picked on male.



Thanks for this. I'm a First Aider at work and didn't know that women had different symptoms to men when having a heart attack. I'll be asking about that in the next First Aid training that I go to.

Strange to learn something so valuable from the whiniest, most moronic thread imaginable.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:15:04 PM)

tamaka

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That's right. We may want to be valued for specific things, but to lay out a blanket statement that we are 'Equal' is absurd.


You should only be entitled to as much value as the next average male is given.

Having a vagina doesn't make you special. Get over your self you self important chauvinist.


Diffident

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Strange to learn something so valuable from the whiniest, most moronic thread imaginable.


Yep, soooo whiny to point out that men are victims of heart problems too, even to a higher extent. It's just so whiny to suggest what about ALL victims and not just women. How dare a male want equality. He must place women above men, just like female favouring fuckwits like you.


In probably every western nation, there would be more government health funding for women compared to men. Of course that side of the issue gets all buried under the sand while the focus is on why people have less recognition for female heart attack symptoms compared to a male.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:26:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

tamaka

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That's right. We may want to be valued for specific things, but to lay out a blanket statement that we are 'Equal' is absurd.


You should only be entitled to as much value as the next average male is given.

Having a vagina doesn't make you special. Get over your self you self important chauvinist.


Diffident

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Strange to learn something so valuable from the whiniest, most moronic thread imaginable.


Yep, soooo whiny to point out that men are victims of heart problems too, even to a higher extent. It's just so whiny to suggest what about ALL victims and not just women. How dare a male want equality. He must place women above men, just like female favouring fuckwits like you.


In probably every western nation, there would be more government health funding for women compared to men. Of course that side of the issue gets all buried under the sand while the focus is on why people have less recognition for female heart attack symptoms compared to a male.



Not really... i am far beyond average in many ways.




Diffident -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:31:13 PM)

Yup. Whiny and moronic to the max. The poster who I quoted gave a good explanation of why there are specific issues with recognising the symptoms of a heart attack in women, that are a separate issue to heart attacks in general, way back in page 1. Totally invalidated any point that you thought that you were trying to make. Maybe you should go back and read what she said. Oh wait, I've just quoted her so you don't even have to go back to Page 1, You're welcome.

The discussion effectively ended with her post. She obviously knows what she is talking about, and you clearly don't. Start reading and stop whining.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:40:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

tamaka

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That's right. We may want to be valued for specific things, but to lay out a blanket statement that we are 'Equal' is absurd.


You should only be entitled to as much value as the next average male is given.

Having a vagina doesn't make you special. Get over your self you self important chauvinist.


Diffident

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Strange to learn something so valuable from the whiniest, most moronic thread imaginable.


Yep, soooo whiny to point out that men are victims of heart problems too, even to a higher extent. It's just so whiny to suggest what about ALL victims and not just women. How dare a male want equality. He must place women above men, just like female favouring fuckwits like you.


In probably every western nation, there would be more government health funding for women compared to men. Of course that side of the issue gets all buried under the sand while the focus is on why people have less recognition for female heart attack symptoms compared to a male.



Well if you seriously think about it, we don't need many men to continue the human species, but we do need many women. So in that way, woman are more valuable and should be placed above men in value. You are actually right RM.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:45:23 PM)

tamaka

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Not really... i am far beyond average in many ways.


lolz that's what nearly every woman thinks of her self. They are all over these dating/personal sites. Women like you who live in this fantasy world where you think you are special, therefore, you only want the best guy on the website. The reality is, you're just the average jackass, no one more interesting than the next female profile I look at.

Diffident

I'm very aware of what Lucy has expressed. This does not make an argument to the point that just because female symptoms are less recognised, we should make female heart attack victims special and more considered over male victims.

Considering that males are more likely to have heart problems than women, that alone invalidates any special consideration for women.

Women on average life longer than men for christ sake. It's partly because they are more looked after by society compared to men in the health system.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:50:19 PM)

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Well if you seriously think about it, we don't need many men to continue the human species, but we do need many women.



Silly little girl. Who is going to do all the hard labouring work that makes society operate? Shelter, food, power. This all takes dangerous labouring work that most women simply cannot do.

Here, chew on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNHWdQt_rI

^ it explains all the things men do that women don't appreciate.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:51:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

tamaka

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Not really... i am far beyond average in many ways.


lolz that's what nearly every woman thinks of her self. They are all over these dating/personal sites. Women like you who live in this fantasy world where you think you are special, therefore, you only want the best guy on the website. The reality is, you're just the average jackass, no one more interesting than the next female profile I look at.

Diffident

I'm very aware of what Lucy has expressed. This does not make an argument to the point that just because female symptoms are less recognised, we should make female heart attack victims special and more considered over male victims.

Considering that males are more likely to have heart problems than women, that alone invalidates any special consideration for women.

Women on average life longer than men for christ sake. It's partly because they are more looked after by society compared to men in the health system.



Lol... depends on what specifically one is looking for when determining average, above/below average. So evidently you don't give much thought regarding how you evaluate people. That's probably because you aren't very smart. You are probably below average in that regard.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:57:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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Well if you seriously think about it, we don't need many men to continue the human species, but we do need many women.



Silly little girl. Who is going to do all the hard labouring work that makes society operate? Shelter, food, power. This all takes dangerous labouring work that most women simply cannot do.

Here, chew on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNHWdQt_rI

^ it explains all the things men do that women don't appreciate.


Yes men are good for working for us. You're right. Lucky for you guys i guess.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:57:44 PM)

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Lol... depends on what specifically one is looking for when determining average, above/below average. So evidently you don't give much thought regarding how you evaluate people. That's probably because you aren't very smart. You are probably below average in that regard.


Lets see who is the one that's stupid.

Make an argument that explains how you are special and above the average woman? If you can't, you pretty much just made a fool of your self.

I will eagerly wait for the laugh. Just like the next woman, you think you are special when really, you're fucking not. You are nothing more than a self entitled twit. Join the queue with the 1000s of other women with the same mentality.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 4:59:40 PM)

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/824/586/d35.jpg

Gotta larf




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 5:14:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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Lol... depends on what specifically one is looking for when determining average, above/below average. So evidently you don't give much thought regarding how you evaluate people. That's probably because you aren't very smart. You are probably below average in that regard.


Lets see who is the one that's stupid.

Make an argument that explains how you are special and above the average woman? If you can't, you pretty much just made a fool of your self.

I will eagerly wait for the laugh. Just like the next woman, you think you are special when really, you're fucking not. You are nothing more than a self entitled twit. Join the queue with the 1000s of other women with the same mentality.


I won the Leadership Award from Dun & Bradstreet... twice.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 5:19:11 PM)

See, I told ya.




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