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tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 5:19:54 PM)

Lol... you may now kiss my ass. ; )




Edwird -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 6:04:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen
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The better caption:

"I admire your work. The toilet in my apartment, 3:00 PM, be there."




dcnovice -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 7:29:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/27/womens-heart-disease/95881126/

Why not ALL heart disease?

This is ignored of course.

Why do men suffer more heart problems than women?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/11723374/Why-do-men-suffer-more-heart-problems-than-women.html

This is officially the most pathetic OP in the history of Collarchat.

You really need help, dude.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 7:52:14 PM)

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This is officially the most pathetic OP in the history of Collarchat.


I understand. It's "pathetic" when men think they don't get enough recognition and the opposite gender gets more than deserved while it's all the sudden magically not pathetic when women think they may not get enough recogition and the opposite sex gets more than what's deserved.

Nearly any female favouring double standard is possible in a magical lefty world.

In other news, it's also not pathetic to complain about something as petty as tampon tax.

You leftist hypocrites are so deeply stupid, it's fucking laughable.




dcnovice -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 7:58:06 PM)

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I understand. It's "pathetic" when men think they don't get enough recognition and the opposite gender gets more than deserved while it's all the sudden magically not pathetic when women think they may not get enough recogition and the opposite sex gets more than what's deserved.

No, it's pathetic when an Internet troll has his head so far up his self-pitying ass that his response to another human being's death is "Oh good, another opportunity to whine about my cursed life as a white male."

Understand?




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 8:01:12 PM)

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No, it's pathetic when an Internet troll has his head so far up his self-pitying ass that his response to another human being's death is "Oh good, another opportunity to whine about my cursed life as a white male."


How ironic, the exact article is making a woman's death a way to pity ALL women. Oh good, another opportunity to whine about my cursed life as a woman.

I guess it's only okay when feminists do it?




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 8:07:44 PM)

Pity women? It was to use it as an opportunity to educate women about the signs of a heart attack in women. You are really dumb.




Edwird -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 8:44:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: respectmen
Why not ALL heart disease?
Why, that's obvious RM - because women are special - each and every one of them. Men are the despoilers of the world and thus their deaths are of no concern to anyone.

But women - those precious little angels... every time a woman dies, the earth weeps and the firmament is just a little less brighter.



We've arranged appointments for you and respectmen to have tubal ligation procedures so that you both can feel like precious little angels and reduce the empathy gap for yourselves. It's the only way.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 9:02:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: respectmen
Why not ALL heart disease?
Why, that's obvious RM - because women are special - each and every one of them. Men are the despoilers of the world and thus their deaths are of no concern to anyone.

But women - those precious little angels... every time a woman dies, the earth weeps and the firmament is just a little less brighter.



We've arranged appointments for you and respectmen to have tubal ligation procedures so that you both can feel like precious little angels and reduce the empathy gap for yourselves. It's the only way.


I'd settle for a lobotomy.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 10:08:52 PM)

Tamaka

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Pity women? It was to use it as an opportunity to educate women about the signs of a heart attack in women. You are really dumb.


Rubbish, they used her death to form a pity party for women. The stance being, people aren't recognising women's heart problems enough. You have to be completely dumb to not acknowledge that men also have random heart attacks and die without knowing they had heart problems prior.

They made her death about this when it most probably had nothing to do with this.

Wayward

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I'd settle for a lobotomy.


I'll settle for sharp point steel cap boots. So I can kick you up the vulva. Hey you suggested violence towards me first. Fair play, princess.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 10:23:43 PM)

RM... i think you owe me an ass kiss.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 10:29:13 PM)

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RM... i think you owe me an ass kiss.


As long as you're not a poop princess.




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 10:41:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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RM... i think you owe me an ass kiss.


As long as you're not a poop princess.


Nope. I'm not... lucky for you! ; )




tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 11:09:13 PM)

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Greta75 -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 11:14:20 PM)

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I find it amusing how you think having periods makes you any special compared to another human being.


Having periods certainly means I go through more sufferings and inconveniences than a male human being.

For example, a man will never have to suffer having his period come on an unexpected time when ya on a planned romantic night of hot sexual fun and then having the male freak out over the blood.

For example, when going on a multi-day hiking camping trip! Try changing tampon in a forest every 2 hours as you are hiking. And even trying to locate a discreet spot to do that! It makes me wonder how indigenous women deal with their periods! And deal with bloody mess on your hands without proper facilities to clean up! Now imagine a female having to work as a mountain guide and having to deal with periods as her regular career.

Sorry, when it comes down to it. Being female, we have to deal with alot more than males.

On top of that, some women really suffer crippling pain every month during their period.

Did not choose to have periods in our biological system.

So don't even try to claim that males are disadvantaged in any way, by nature, because.

1) They get to pee standing up in a non-messy manner.
2) They don't have to deal with unpredictable blood every month.
3) They don't have to deal with all the physical pain that period can bring.





tamaka -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 11:18:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: respectmen
I find it amusing how you think having periods makes you any special compared to another human being.


Having periods certainly means I go through more sufferings and inconveniences than a male human being.

For example, a man will never have to suffer having his period come on an unexpected time when ya on a planned romantic night of hot sexual fun and then having the male freak out over the blood.

For example, when going on a multi-day hiking camping trip! Try changing tampon in a forest every 2 hours as you are hiking. And even trying to locate a discreet spot to do that! And deal with bloody mess on your hands without proper facilities to clean up! Now imagine a female having to work as a mountain guide and having to deal with periods as her regular career.

Sorry, when it comes down to it. Being female, we have to deal with alot more than males.

On top of that, some women really suffer crippling pain every month during their period.

Did not choose to have periods in our biological system.




Or have to give a presentation to Senior Management when you've got terrible crampy and heavy bleeding... plus the hormonal imbalance making you more emotional than normal. And you have to act like everything is fine. Or being on a plane in that condition... etc




Lucylastic -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/28/2016 11:26:54 PM)

This came from 2011 in a british news paper,



The sex hormone oestrogen protects women from heart attacks and may explain why they are far less likely to be struck down than men, claim scientists.
They have discovered that this naturally-occurring chemical helps stop blood cells sticking to the walls of arteries and forming potentially fatal blockages.
Researchers from Queen Mary at the University of London think their findings may explain why women are far more likely to suffer heart attacks after the menopause, when their oestrogen levels decline.
Around one in five men in Britain die from a heart attack, compared to just one in seven women.
But while very few women suffer heart attacks before their 50s, the risk suddenly increases after the menopause when they are just as likely to be struck down than men.
Until recently experts have struggled to explain why younger women are less likely to develop heart disease and suffer heart attacks.
Now research published in the journal Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis and Vascular Biology claims that the hormone oestrogen may protect them.
But experts say their findings do not necessarily mean that oestrogen could ever be used in drugs to prevent heart disease.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2025008/Why-women-fewer-heart-attacks-Oestrogen-protects-heart-disease.html#ixzz4UD11fg6s
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SO its only been five or six years that women have been "classed" as different to men regarding risk and symptoms.
And you wanna bitch about men not being researched..... the american heart foundation and Goredforwomen says this about the differences specifically

Women ages 18-55 years old tend to be less healthy and have a poorer quality of life than similar-aged men before suffering a heart attack, according to research presented at the American Heart Association’s Quality of Care and Outcomes Research Scientific Sessions 2013.

“Compared with young men, women under 55 years are less likely to have heart attacks. But, when they do occur, women are more likely to have medical problems, poorer physical and mental functioning, more chest pain and a poorer quality of life in the month leading up to their heart attack,” says Rachel Dreyer, Ph.D., the study’s lead author and a research fellow in cardiovascular medicine at Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, CT.

Heart Attack Risk Factors for Women: Why Women Suffer More
Researchers surveyed 2,990 women and men from an international study of heart attack patients 18-55 years old. They used general health measures and a disease-specific questionnaire that assessed patients’ chest pain and quality of life prior to their heart attacks. They found:

Women had a poorer physical and mental health with more physical limitations prior to their heart attacks than similar-aged men with heart attacks.
The women were also more likely than men to have other conditions associated with heart disease:
diabetes (40 percent vs. 27 percent)
obesity (55 percent vs. 48 percent)
history of stroke (6 percent vs. 3 percent)
heart failure (6 percent vs. 2 percent)
renal failure (13 percent vs. 9 percent)
depression (49 percent vs. 24 percent).
“These data suggest that young women were suffering more from their heart disease than young men prior to their heart attack,” Dreyer says.

“We need to develop better methods for recognizing and treating young women with chest pain to optimize their quality of life and potentially even prevent a heart attack.

General health and disease-specific health status assessments are valuable tools for healthcare providers to measure the burden of disease on patients. These should be standardized into clinical practice, much like assessments for other traditional heart disease risk factors.”

Researchers used data from the VIRGO study (Variation in Recovery: Role of Gender on Outcomes of Young AMI Patients), funded by the National, Heart, Lung and Blood Institute.
https://www.goredforwomen.org/about-heart-disease/heart_disease_research-subcategory/heart-attack-risk-factors-women-vs-men/

VIrgo study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21081748



I know Im wasting my time with Nick and the other goobers, but someone might get some use out of it, ...






Greta75 -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/29/2016 1:11:29 AM)

FR

And Respectmen, if I could pass my female bleeding privileges to you somehow. I gladly give them all to you! Everything that comes with it! Even the ability of Child Birth. You can have these privileges.





stef -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/29/2016 1:23:00 AM)


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....unless I be a useful idiot

Well, you're halfway there, but I doubt you'll ever be useful.




respectmen -> RE: Carrie Fisher's death puts spotlight on women's heart disease (12/29/2016 12:54:53 PM)

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Well, you're halfway there, but I doubt you'll ever be useful.


Oh I can be very useful to my lovies.

I can't see how an idiot that's so damn dumb that they're even confused about what gender they are can be any use to anyone. Not to mention, how many employers would give you a job lol. Being a put off in dating and the employment world would make you pretty damn useless for society as a whole.




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