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BoscoX -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:39:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

There's a reason the Oxford Dictionary chose "post-truth" as the word of the year.

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/12/02/502542397/is-being-post-truth-a-new-concept


Obama was president

Hows that hope and change workin out for ya




WhoreMods -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:40:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Then, there is real evidence that Obama is a Muslim.

You won't have any problem citing some then, will you?




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:44:06 AM)

Could you use fewer swipes and more plain language? I'm not even sure what you're saying half the time. Thanks!




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:45:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Then, there is real evidence that Obama is a Muslim.

You won't have any problem citing some then, will you?

He also is going to take away your guns and institute Sharia Law.

He's still got 8 days -- he can do it!




BoscoX -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:49:41 AM)

So you want to take the moron challenge?

LL was too smart for that but you want to dive in head first perhaps





BoscoX -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:50:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Could you use fewer swipes and more plain language? I'm not even sure what you're saying half the time. Thanks!


You are practically twins, if you had half a brain you would be highly concerned about this




Lucylastic -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:54:31 AM)


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Also, the Hillary campaign started the birther thing so eat shit on that one




breitbart...lol
But yanno, it WAS trump who had his crack team of investigators to hawaii.

still waiting on that result
much like his tax returns




MrRodgers -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 6:59:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Just like when everyone was certain Obama was a secret Muslim who was trying to bring down the country. Same thing.


There's actually quite a bit more to this story than there ever was to that one.

If there was anything to it don't you think it would have come out before the election rather than now that ems are grasping at straws to discredit Trump, and don't pretend nobody knew till now.

Russian oligarchs and klepocrats financing Trump all over the world is hardly grasping at straws. I want a special prosecutor to go after all of it. Those deals are easily established as shell LLC after shell LLC with money from Russia.

I think now the American people know why Trump won't disclose his taxes.

You believe the Russians are dumb enough to invest all that time developing him. Then once they have him in their pocket and about to assume the Presidency they reveal it and waste all that effort. Or how about this idea. They see you and others like you who will believe anything bad about Republicans in general and Trump in particular so they let a false story out which they know you will swallow hook, line, and sinker to try to feed the discord over here.
Of course to accept the later you would have to consider the possibility that Trump isn't the anti Christ.

This is just like the garbage that Bush 41 went to Paris to meet with a Iranian terrorist in Sep of 80. Like Bush could go to Paris in the middle of the campaign and nobody noticed, until they needed an excuse for Carter losing.

Garbage ? Maybe that's the correct metaphor for the stench that follows today's right. First of all this Bayrock and other Russian invovlement (money laundrying...cash for million $ apts at Soho) is years old. (I think Avenue of the Americas too) his was long before Trump was even more than the latest bankruptcy news on the business finance pages.

But there is this and of course the Russians with Putin may have felt that the voters would accept how the right wing has so lowered the bar of political ethics and would accept also, all of the spin on it all...then recall this:

Bani-Sadr’s testimony is supported by Iranian admiral Ahmad Madani, who was minister of defense in 1979 and presidential candidate in the 1980 elections. Madani’s presidential campaign was financed by Carter’s CIA through financier and arms dealer Cyrus Hashemi. Nevertheless, Bani-Sadr won with over 75% of the vote. In an interview in the early 1990’s Madani informed Parry that in 1980 Hashemi was double-crossing Carter, negotiating the hostages with the Republicans. According to Madani, Hashemi specifically mentioned to him the name of William Casey. Hashemi died in 1986 of a rare disease. According to a 1987 Los Angeles Times article published in the wake of the Iran-Contra scandal:

“…sources say, a U.S. government informant who had worked with Hashemi claims that Customs Service officials told him the arms dealer may have been “bumped off” by government agents to protect the then-secret Iran initiative…

…Hashemi, a rival for roles ultimately assumed by Adnan Khashoggi and Manucher Ghorbanifar in the Iran operation, died suddenly on July 21, 1986, three months before the secret arms deals were disclosed. Officially, death was attributed to a rare and virulent form of leukemia that was diagnosed only two days before Hashemi died.

But the most explosive piece of October Surprise evidence is most certainly a Russian intelligence report sent to the Task Force on January 11 1993, just as the investigation was drawing to a close. The six-page document stated that Soviet intelligence knew that Bush, Casey and other US Republicans had met secretly in Europe with Iranian officials in 1980. Congressman Hamilton told Parry that he did not recall Barcella informing him of any Russian report. Several other members of Congress who formed part of the Task Force likewise told Parry they never saw such a report. Barcella did not mention the Russian report at the January 13 1993 press conference in which the Task Force presented its final findings.

Of course not, Reaqan, the repubs and the whole of the 'new' right was in the tank of any kind of corruption starting with Nixon and spreading as in a cancer...with Reagan. Finally leading up trading missiles to Iran for a CIA asset (retired Mar. Col. in Lebanon) I guess there to get 241 Marines killed in their sleep and who was himself...killed anyway.

HERE

.....and of course, the right wing of today...does accept such corruption and that as I've written, the dems are mere amateurs while the repubs...are real pros at this shit.




WhoreMods -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 7:10:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Could you use fewer swipes and more plain language? I'm not even sure what you're saying half the time. Thanks!

Clarified and expanded version of my response to the "post-truth" thing:

Calling reality into question by gaslighting the whole of Russia has long been one of Putin's methods of control. Not only does he make a point of controlling the media, he also makes a point of issuing absurd and obviously false reportage in order to call both the mainstream media, and the few remaining bits of it that he doesn't control, in order to call the whole lot of it into question. This is part of what's been described as his circus approach to politics.

It seems that Putin's bitch is very taken with this approach, but is throwing tantrums because he doesn't have the same degree of control of the American media that Putin does over the Russian media.




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 8:41:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

There's a reason the Oxford Dictionary chose "post-truth" as the word of the year.

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/12/02/502542397/is-being-post-truth-a-new-concept


Obama was president

Hows that hope and change workin out for ya

And he did it without Russia.

Worked out great.




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 11:18:57 AM)

So . . .

How is Russia blackmailing the president-elect not a bad thing?




WhoreMods -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 11:25:57 AM)

I do love that the same posters making excuses for Putin running the president elect were getting all hysterical about Obama putting his country down and pissing on America's international status if he bowed too low to whowever was the Japanese Prime Minister that week.




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 3:41:32 PM)

Yeah, well -- add it to the hypocrisy thread.




BoscoX -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 4:08:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So . . .

How is Russia blackmailing the president-elect not a bad thing?


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Unverified reports

Russia denies, President Trump denies. News so fake even the NYT wouldn't touch it

Same reports claim that they had shit on Hillary too

You may now resume your hysterical posting




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 4:46:30 PM)

Another day, a different GOP denial.

Another post, another round of crap.

I always thought you were just a troll with nothing else to do.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if you actually are this ridiculously stupid.




DaddySatyr -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/12/2017 11:44:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

He also is going to take away your guns and institute Sharia Law.

He's still got 8 days -- he can do it!



He may not have instituted it (the Dumbocrats tend to do these things incrementally), but ask some of the people living in Minnesota how all the Muslim immigrants are working out for them.



Michael




mnottertail -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/13/2017 5:01:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

He also is going to take away your guns and institute Sharia Law.

He's still got 8 days -- he can do it!



He may not have instituted it (the Dumbocrats tend to do these things incrementally), but ask some of the people living in Minnesota how all the Muslim immigrants are working out for them.



Michael


Hi, I am from Minnesota, stolen valor, muslims are working out just fine here. Republitards are in epic fail again, arent they, stolen valor?




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/13/2017 5:55:36 AM)

Yeah, we've been welcoming Muslim immigrants, particularly from Bosnia, here for years now.

Hard working people struggling to get on their feet again in a new land.

As well as immigrants from Jordan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, and Turkey.




BoscoX -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/13/2017 6:09:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yeah, we've been welcoming Muslim immigrants, particularly from Bosnia, here for years now.

Hard working people struggling to get on their feet again in a new land.

As well as immigrants from Jordan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, and Turkey.


Yes, and we have lost thousands of lives due to terrorist attacks by Muslims for years now, as well




Musicmystery -> RE: IT'S REAL: Russians are blackmailing Trump! (1/13/2017 8:12:29 AM)

RUN!!!!! MUUUUSSSSSSSSLIMMMMMMMMSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Silly putz.




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