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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 2:29:24 PM   
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The weird part is that they basically marching because they want to live in a socialist country, where they would no longer have the right to march for anything.

Ummmm..... Wrong!

Socialist countries (at least most of them in the OECD) allow marches.
Those that don't are usually run by authoritarians - like Cuba, China and Russia.


... for now.


But it clearly shows your assertion was dead wrong.

And even the retort is hardly likely to become a reality in the next few decades at least.


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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 2:37:32 PM   
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Give it time. Someday you'll understand.


As a matter of interest, tamaka, do you generally like respectmen's point of view on things ... or do you find him kind of too moderate and middle-of-the-road?

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 2:43:58 PM   
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Socialist countries (at least most of them in the OECD) allow marches.
Those that don't are usually run by authoritarians - like Cuba, China and Russia.



Can you explain how a socialist country differs from an authoritative one? I find that while "authoritarian" can take many forms, the tenets of socialism are necessary to accomplish authoritarianism.



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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 2:57:29 PM   
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The weird part is that they basically marching because they want to live in a socialist country, where they would no longer have the right to march for anything.

Ummmm..... Wrong!

Socialist countries (at least most of them in the OECD) allow marches.
Those that don't are usually run by authoritarians - like Cuba, China and Russia.


... for now.


But it clearly shows your assertion was dead wrong.

And even the retort is hardly likely to become a reality in the next few decades at least.



My assertion was dead wrong? Tell me, what do you mean by the word 'Allow' in your response to me above? Like, your not allowed to be homeless in the UK anymore?

You'd be surprised how things can speed up sometimes.


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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 2:59:28 PM   
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Give it time. Someday you'll understand.


As a matter of interest, tamaka, do you generally like respectmen's point of view on things ... or do you find him kind of too moderate and middle-of-the-road?


I don't like or dislike it. He makes some valid points. That's all i think of RM.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 3:01:45 PM   
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The weird part is that they basically marching because they want to live in a socialist country, where they would no longer have the right to march for anything.

Ummmm..... Wrong!

Socialist countries (at least most of them in the OECD) allow marches.
Those that don't are usually run by authoritarians - like Cuba, China and Russia.


... for now.


But it clearly shows your assertion was dead wrong.

And even the retort is hardly likely to become a reality in the next few decades at least.



My assertion was dead wrong? Tell me, what do you mean by 'allow' in your response to me above?

You'd be surprised how things can speed up sometimes.



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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 3:02:27 PM   
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You clearly don't think we have the freedoms that you do.
Well actually, we do - at least 99.9% of them.
The same is for European countries, AU/NZ and most of the OECD countries.

ETA: As for 'allow': it means it's not illegal to march.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 3:05:20 PM   
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Not in my lifetime it won't.

You clearly don't think we have the freedoms that you do.
Well actually, we do - at least 99.9% of them.
The same is for European countries, AU/NZ and most of the OECD countries.

ETA: As for 'allow': it means it's not illegal to march.


Like the freedom to be homeless? Let's start at the weakest and work our way up, shall we?

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 3:07:13 PM   
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Not in my lifetime it won't.

You clearly don't think we have the freedoms that you do.
Well actually, we do - at least 99.9% of them.
The same is for European countries, AU/NZ and most of the OECD countries.

ETA: As for 'allow': it means it's not illegal to march.


Btw, you have the freedoms that the USA allows you to. You couldn't defend yourself alone before, and you can't now. Wake up and smell the coffee.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 4:36:53 PM   
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Anyway, I feel kinda proud that a Protest organize by women lead to zero violence. I mean to gather 5 million people with zero violence. That's pretty awesome!


What's even more awesome with this peaceful and non violent march is that Madonna confessed that she's had thoughts about blowing up the white house.

http://www.breitbart.com/live/womens-march-washington-live-updates/madonna-drops-f-bombs-anti-trump-rally-ive-thought-lot-blowing-white-house/


Gotta larf


Who do these feminist lunatics think they are? They seem to think they are special because they are women and claim to be victims. Therefore, they believe their voice is more important than anyone else.

I hope Trump had a good laugh at these idiots. This should have been called "The march against democracy". That's what they're exactly doing. They are whinging about a democratic election.

They need to be told, the world owes ya nothing, ya cunt.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 4:49:51 PM   
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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 4:58:58 PM   
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Not in my lifetime it won't.

You clearly don't think we have the freedoms that you do.
Well actually, we do - at least 99.9% of them.
The same is for European countries, AU/NZ and most of the OECD countries.

ETA: As for 'allow': it means it's not illegal to march.


Like the freedom to be homeless? Let's start at the weakest and work our way up, shall we?


And the US has NO homeless??

From talkpoverty: Tonight, thousands of homeless people in the United States will face the possibility of arrest because they do not have a safe place to sleep. Thousands more could be arraigned for sitting or standing in the wrong place. While they must sleep rest their legs, homeless people live in cities where these and other life sustaining activities are against the law, even though shelters face a critical shortage of beds.

It's not illegal to be homeless in the UK - unlike some parts of the US.
Seems you have less freedom than we do on that one.


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Btw, you have the freedoms that the USA allows you to. You couldn't defend yourself alone before, and you can't now. Wake up and smell the coffee.

We are not beholding to the US for our freedoms.
And, fwiw, if it wasn't for our original constitution, you wouldn't have yours; at least not in its current form.


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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:01:28 PM   
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What does it matter if she thought about blowing up the white house??
Does it fucking matter? Really??
It's not even newsworthy!!


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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:08:32 PM   
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The weird part is that they basically marching because they want to live in a socialist country, where they would no longer have the right to march for anything.


Which socialist countries limit freedom of assembly or freedom of speech?

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:11:04 PM   
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What's even more awesome with this peaceful and non violent march is that Madonna confessed that she's had thoughts about blowing up the white house.

To me though, the definition of a peaceful person is. When you think of blowing up a white house. Don't follow up your violent thoughts with actions.

I've probably thought of murdering some people before, heinous child rapists for example who got off easy.

I've probably been so angry, I wanted to hit the person I was angry with who have done something to hurt me bad. But I never act on it as I don't believe in violence in solving problems. Emotional, you feel alot things, but actual solutions, may not be great to follow your emotions.

So yea, I'd say that's very peaceful. And generally peaceful people are peaceful because they have self-control.

Not peaceful are ISIS who say they are gonna blow something up and then go ahead and actually blow it up.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:11:27 PM   
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Ummmm..... Wrong!

Socialist countries (at least most of them in the OECD) allow marches.
Those that don't are usually run by authoritarians - like Cuba, China and Russia.

You might want to check the cuban constitution, articles 53 and54.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:15:00 PM   
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I've probably been so angry, I wanted to hit the person I was angry with who have done something to hurt me bad. But I never act on it as I don't believe in violence in solving problems.

I seem to remember you threatning me with physical violence.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:16:21 PM   
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Ummmm..... Wrong!

Socialist countries (at least most of them in the OECD) allow marches.
Those that don't are usually run by authoritarians - like Cuba, China and Russia.

You might want to check the cuban constitution, articles 53 and54.



Yeah.... why don't you go to Cuba and try it out. See how that works out.

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:17:08 PM   
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Btw, you have the freedoms that the USA allows you to.

Which freedoms are those?



You couldn't defend yourself alone before, and you can't now. Wake up and smell the coffee.

When has g.b.been unable to defend themselves?

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RE: Women's March - 1/22/2017 5:19:09 PM   
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Not in my lifetime it won't.

You clearly don't think we have the freedoms that you do.
Well actually, we do - at least 99.9% of them.
The same is for European countries, AU/NZ and most of the OECD countries.

ETA: As for 'allow': it means it's not illegal to march.


Like the freedom to be homeless? Let's start at the weakest and work our way up, shall we?


And the US has NO homeless??

From talkpoverty: Tonight, thousands of homeless people in the United States will face the possibility of arrest because they do not have a safe place to sleep. Thousands more could be arraigned for sitting or standing in the wrong place. While they must sleep rest their legs, homeless people live in cities where these and other life sustaining activities are against the law, even though shelters face a critical shortage of beds.

It's not illegal to be homeless in the UK - unlike some parts of the US.
Seems you have less freedom than we do on that one.


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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Btw, you have the freedoms that the USA allows you to. You couldn't defend yourself alone before, and you can't now. Wake up and smell the coffee.

We are not beholding to the US for our freedoms.
And, fwiw, if it wasn't for our original constitution, you wouldn't have yours; at least not in its current form.



Yes the UK passed a law that criminalized homelesness. And if you don't think the UK is beholden to the US for it's safety, you might want to note that your PM is the first in line to come suck DT's cock... if she's lucky.

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