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Still, it's about inspiring activists within the country to make the changes. There is obviously no easy or quick fix. But historically, alot of things that seem impossible has happened. There must have been a time in history where western women cannot even imagine being capable of being part of the government. And now they are. And all it takes is a few woman believing in a certain idea and spreading the concept. Recruiting men to their cause too. For Saudi to change, eventually, these women have to influence their men's way of thinking. But first they need to believe, despite all the odds against them, they can have power if they know how to use it in a way where it suits their situation. It has to be gentle and sweet persuasion of their men and not hard core bomb them all, strung them up stuffs.
Foreign critics got the internet now, so they are fine and safe from our government. Actually Singapore will probably see a day where gay marriages will be legalise I am sure as millennials here generally are very friendly to the idea of gay marriage.
But I don't know anybody who believes over here that death penalty is a problem or the caning. Because of our low crime, we believe these laws are workign to keep us safe. So when people from crime ridden countries tells us, we need to change these laws, for us to be convinced, they need to show us their laws worked in keeping their people safe better than our laws. That's how we will adopt their laws.
Uh, you really do not study history do you? Or anthropology? or any subject that has to do with the study of people or a society?
Let me enlighten you.
The United States as it is now came about in 1788, women got the right to vote in all elections in 1920, so that was 132 years.
African Americans were freed in 1865, and only truly got the unimpeded right to vote in 1964, 99 years and school desegregation really did not become fully effective until the late 60's.
And lets face it, for its age, the US is fairly progressive.
Now, we are talking about a region in the world that has been under predominantly Muslim rule since the 7th century. And during the 20th century saw periods of reform followed by regression.
But at no time, in none of these countries did real reform when it comes to women actually take place.
Since the end of WW2, the region has been host to inter sectarian violence as the various Muslim sects via for control. A few of these sects actually have done away with, at least internally, many of the draconian rules as they pertain to women.
The problem is that none of these sects are a majority in any country, and you can thank the League of Nations and Great Britain for that because when they divided the region into what we have today, they didnt pay attention to the fighting among the Muslim sects and grouped blood enemies together.
So, you got groups of people living in the same country that could not agree on single or two ply toilet paper to wipe their asses with and only agree that the other groups need to be exterminated.
Thus breeding ground for extremists that basically hate everyone and pervert the teachings of Islam to justify wholesale murder and terrorism.
As I said before, in no place in the Koran does it say to blow yourself and kill innocent women and children to become a martyr and get into heaven and collect 72 virgins.
The Koran does say that the wholesale murder of innocents, regardless of religion will get you a one way ticket to hell.
Which means there a bunch of dead suicide bombers looking around wondering where the virgins are and where the hell the AC controls are.
There is an historic equivalent for Christians, known as the crusades.
These knights and warriors were granted full absolution for all sins committed before and during the crusades, however, when the priests absolving these guys of their sins are doing so while sinning themselves, I pretty much think the absolution is about as worthless as me giving you the deed to the Brooklyn bridge.
Because the teachings of Christ do not include going out and murdering everyone in a city to make sure you kill just the believers of one particular religion.
Nor does the new testament say that you can be absolved of sins that you have not even committed yet.
For that matter, absolution only counts if you do not intend to do it again, so, there are a few thousand knights in hell wearing plate and chain mail armor saying "We fucked up big time."
Now the problem with rape and adultery in Sharia law, as well as the law of Moses, is actually a big one.
You see, for a woman to be condemned as an adulteress she has to be caught in the act.
Okay, so if she is being raped and the rapists are caught, either during our after the fact, all they have to do is claim that she consented.
However, they are guilty of adultery as well for having sex with a married woman.
Same penalty applies, at least according to the law as written.
However, here is the rub, Muslim society, as well as Orthodox Jewish societies are patriarchal, meaning that men have the final say.
Thus the word of the male carries more weight.
And as much as the western world wants to deny it, even with modern forensic techniques, rape still boils down to his word against hers.
Which is why a large majority of men accused of rape walk.
Which is why that officers working sex crimes have a nasty habit of getting a bit too trigger happy or end up so burnt out and discouraged they eat their gun.
Greta, when it comes to abuses against women, western or in the Muslim world, we are talking about over 5000 years of women being second class citizens and considered to be too emotional or stupid to know anything.
And every religion that has come along basically kept that up.
There were a number of Matriarchal societies where that was not the case, but western colonial expansionism pretty much wiped them out in the name of spreading Christianity.
Cant have the 'primitives' telling our women they are equal to men, now can we? <<<< hypothetical quote of some explorer from Europe in whatever region you care to mention.
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