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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 7:22:24 AM   
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So where I live, I feel safe from Muslims. As the government is not blinded about the problem of Islam as we practically have 2 much larger Muslim Nations surrounding us, so we lived with them all our lives and know what they are like.

What prevents those two larger nations from absorbing that third world shithold called singapore and sending all of the chinese back to china?
Would it be the country that supplies you with your military supplies?


But for me, it would just be sad to see the west fall to Muslims because they don't understand or refuse to understand the threat of Islam. And but at the same time. It's not my country. So I won't be living in it when it happens.

Aren't they the ones who supply your military that protect you from all of your giant muslim neighbors?

In your case, you are complaining about your own country. And it's things you are facing IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

You gotta live with it.
I don't.

He lives in australia dumbass.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 7:41:29 AM   
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Muslim women are as slaves or dogs, and they do as they are told

No shit???How totally kewel. Are there many on this site? How could they not flood a bdsm site.
Do they fetch my slippers like spike does or will they be using their hands with the opposable thumbs?

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 8:01:42 AM   
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Would it be the country that supplies you with your military supplies?

You Americans need our business. We pay for those military supplies, so don't say AS IF you guys are giving us charity or something. We pay good money for everything we buy from you guys. And I don't know why you keep going on and on about our military spending. We can afford all that military spending, YES, and it does not even make a dent in our surpluses. And US Benefits from the sale. Hell, we are supporting Made in the USA.

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Aren't they the ones who supply your military that protect you from all of your giant muslim neighbors?

When a country has dough, they have ZERO worries about military weapons. It's all about money. If you can pay, people will sell, if the West won't sell, some other country would.

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He lives in australia dumbass.

Did I ever say he lives in the US? Did you forget I mentioned his idol was Pauline Hanson? Duh why would I mention an Australian politician his fangirling over?
And incase you have not been to Australia, Australian women are seriously, the definition of what Feminism wants to achieve. Just super duper most capable women I ever met in my life. Just super women and can do everything. So he is anti-Feminism, and he is living in the country which is the definition of Feminism.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 8:09:33 AM   
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And all the oppressed Muslim women, I feel this must have inspired at least some of them to form their own coalition to fight back in their own countries.


Fight, only to repeatedly have much of their flesh horse whipped off of them

Muslim women are as slaves or dogs, and they do as they are told

The west won't save them so they need to save themselves. The west is supporting Islam AGAINST them.

These woman need inspiration like that, to help themselves, and form their own coalition.

Like these victims: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/16/world/saudi-women-asylum-seekers-us/

They want to make sure their country changes the law and allow them their freedom to travel, they need to start a sisterhood internally and fight against this. Nobody outside can help them, as the west is too busy sucking up to saudi for their oil.

And Asian countries do not care about other country's problem, they focus more on keeping those problems out of their own country.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 8:50:09 AM   
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Funny thing about 'saving people' is that 90% of the time, historically speaking, the people 'saved' get fucked over worse than they were to begin with.

First it was the Spanish colonial expansion and the argument that they (the English) had to save the natives from the natives.
Then every other European country got in on the act.

So, the natives of whatever country that were saved ended up as slaves, second class citizens or just exterminated.

The US fought, either overtly or covertly, enough bush wars during the cold war using the "saving the world from communism" and we see how that turned out.

The same can be said for the Soviets.

Oh, I agree that the women in many Islamic countries are treated unfairly.

But, by what right, do any of the countries or peoples of the rest of the world has to justify forcing change on anybody?

Hell I got neighbors that wont let their kids dance or listen to rock music for religious reasons, so I have the right, since I think that is fucked up, to go over and beat the parents into changing their opinion?

What about the christian denominations that refuse to use modern medicine? Woman goes into labor, dies in child birth because she lost too much blood and the religion states they cannot receive blood transfusions or blood products that could have saved her life?

Sorry folks, but, regardless of right or wrong, no one is justified in forcing their beliefs on to someone else. In some of these countries, women are standing up. Hell, women didnt get the legal right to vote in many western countries until the 20th century, and for the longest time, women, even in our progressive societies, were little more than property, and all of that was based on Christians interpreting the bible.

Now in direct response to the person who started this thread, I give you World Report 2015: Singapore a nice list of human rights violations for Singapore.

FYI, the US, and half the 'progressive' western nations have nice little tidbits on that website.

So, people in glass houses, pot/kettle etc.

Bottom line, clean up your own yard first.

And considering some of the crap spewed by the op, put your computer, smart phone and any other internet capable device back in the boxes they came in, and then go piss up a rope.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 9:34:20 AM   
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Now in direct response to the person who started this thread, I give you World Report 2015: Singapore a nice list of human rights violations for Singapore.

Yea, we been accuse of human rights violations from the beginning of time, our founder was demonised like Hitler and a dictator too. But doesn't change the fact that our kids top the world in education, and people are living good lives and jobs are plentiful.
Asia has different ideas over all on what constitutes a "human right".

The end result is, we have less poverty in Singapore than in America. And our poor kids from poorer backgrounds has access to top education that rich kids have. Something US seriously needs to model after IF they want to help the black neighbourhoods get out of their slum.

I'm so glad by the way, people keep harping about our lack of freedom of press. But thanks to that, our press don't deliver fake news. One fake news from them could result in half a million dollars fine per fake news. Which is great. Our lack of freedom equals Accountability for what they report. They better be able to prove it's the truth. That's what no freedom of press is. No freedom to publish garbage.

Our caning is great! Rapists and Molestors get them. Our death penalty is great! Love it! And we use rope, so we don't waste money on stupid debates like lethal injection is more expensive than keeping a prisoner for life.
What else are we violating? I always said I love our anti-drugs, no drug tolerance law. Yes please kill people that violates our anti-drug law. I totally love that law! We don't want drugs in our country. They can go peddle drugs in the US, just don't do it here, or face the noose.

And I'm not for gay marriage. I am not convinced same sex couple is the best and healthiest family nucleus for children. But to my knowledge, there are plenty of gays and lesbians here and nobody has been prosecuted for being gay or lesbians since I was born. Otherwise, imagine our annual Pink dot, where you got a huge gathering of gay and lesbians at a specific area. The government could sweep in and arrest everybody, but nope. Infact the government prosecuted someone who simply say on facebook that he wants to take a gun and shoot them all. They jailed him.

I would say our human violations are no where near to stoning gays and lesbians to death or stoning women who were raped to death. Preventing women from driving, from leaving the country, from voting.



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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 10:18:54 AM   
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Just a quickly as I'm on my phone and about to start my shift. Can anyone answer and cite what exact accomplishments this march has achieved?



Martin Luther King Jr. marched and "illegally" rode buses and such because he was demanding that people be treated as people. What did he do though?

Well, in this country, "the little guy" can't really do much, if they can't vote. Since one of the things Dr. King and his supporters were marching for was for the federal government to enforce voting laws, marching and other peaceful protests were really about the only options open to them.

Now, that leads us to (what I think is) the real issue, here: voting.

You're right, when you say that a lot of these marchers are doing nothing. I saw a correspondent on Saturday night that was in the crowds of protestors. He said that he asked each and every person he ran into if they had voted and he said: "literally every other person I asked said: 'No' and I was like: Then, what are you complaining about?"

Like their "anointed one" that used to lead them (thank God that's over!), a good portion of these people were feckless slugs until "someone else" didn't do for them what they could have easily done for themselves.

Then, let's add in the element of violence. Very rarely does one see "right wing-based" protests that turn into looting and other violence. It's almost as if there's a portion of these "protestors" has the mind set of: "Things suck. I'm gonna steal some free shit"

As far as I'm concerned, as soon as there's an act of violence committed at one of these "protests", the whole lot of 'em should be locked up.



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They marched because they are drama queens, not because they care who is the President. I know people will read this and just think it is a sarcastic comment, but it's not. Many women.... many many women... love drama. They really do. They feed off of it... literally. That is what they were there for... they were hungry for drama.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 10:54:09 AM   
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Greta, as usual, you missed the point entirely.

I never said that America was perfect. Never made the claim in any way shape or form.

I used the report on Singapore as an example as with the others concerning religious beliefs.

But you brought up the anti drug laws.

So, consider this, the laws in both countries are pretty much cut and dried. The problem is that addicts as well as dealers have the same penalty.

Now granted, since there have been a proven link between addiction and genetics, execute enough addicts and you end the addiction problem. But is that a true solution?

You speak of women's rights in Muslim countries, and I agreed that in many cases it is wrong. But I have to point out, that the situation you present is not the fact in ALL Muslim countries.

You also completely ignored some prime examples of some Christian denominations which, although executing a rape victim is not a problem, allowing for the marrying of under age girls is, just as in some Muslim countries. Also there is the denial of modern medical treatments for everything from gangrene to women who die during child birth from blood loss.

But it is perfectly acceptable for that crap because they believe in the basic Christian philosophy.

Parents sign a legal document recognized by the courts, a 13 year old girl can be married to a 40 year old man. It is legal, and it is not statutory rape in any state, or in most 'Christian' countries.

I can give you another example in the US.

Native Americans.

Legally they have every right as every other citizen.

Reservation schools and medical facilities should be on par as with any other community or city in the United States.

Housing should be, according to law, on par with housing in every other community in the United States.

Reality is something totally different.

Visit a reservation today, especially those west of the Mississippi river, and go out beyond the 'tourist' town where the casino is located, and you are going to find people living in conditions that make the third world look like Beverly Hills.

My point is that no country is perfect, every country and religion has its problems, its 'human rights' violations.

And no person or country from the outside has the right to tell them how to run their country, legal system or religion.

Its for the people themselves to change it.

Unless of course, you are willing to accept that if the US got tired of some of the 'acceptable' policies in your country, dealing with your fellow citizens, we were perfectly justified in sending in troops to take your leaders out.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 10:57:34 AM   
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Would it be the country that supplies you with your military supplies?



You Americans need our business. We pay for those military supplies, so don't say AS IF you guys are giving us charity or something.


Pay attention dumbass. If islam takers over amerika who is gonna supply your military hardware. So when you say
But for me, it would just be sad to see the west fall to Muslims because they don't understand or refuse to understand the threat of Islam. And but at the same time. It's not my country. So I won't be living in it when it happens.
But you will be living in country surrounded, as you say,by hostile muslims.
So if the muslims control amerika and shut off your suply of arms where will you get arms???china...roflmfao...sell you arms???? they woud just take over.
Russia not likely since they like muslims too...notice how buddy buddy putin and syria are.





We pay good money for everything we buy from you guys. And I don't know why you keep going on and on about our military spending. We can afford all that military spending, YES, and it does not even make a dent in our surpluses. And US Benefits from the sale. Hell, we are supporting Made in the USA.

I do not go on and on about your military spending I do spend a fair amount of time lauging at how you are being chumped. How many trillion dollars have you spent on a plane that does not fly? roflmfao...the boys over at bldg 42 are working three shifts.


When a country has dough, they have ZERO worries about military weapons.


For all of your alleged "dough" tell me how many of your tactical fighters are operational today? I read about some issues with some spare parts that were being held up in transit???

It's all about money. If you can pay, people will sell, if the West won't sell, some other country would.

Well now there is the rub now isn't it. If you don't have weapons to defend yourself why would china sell to you instead of just taking over. On the other hand if china did sell you weapons what would be the change over time from the u.s. standard to the chinese? That change over time would allow your muslim enemies to overun that third world shithole called singapore.

He lives in australia dumbass.

Did I ever say he lives in the US?

Yes.



Did you forget I mentioned his idol was Pauline Hanson? Duh why would I mention an Australian politician his fangirling over?

Trump's idol is putin, that does not the donald a russian make.



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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 11:02:21 AM   
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They marched because they are drama queens, not because they care who is the President. I know people will read this and just think it is a sarcastic comment, but it's not. Many women.... many many women... love drama. They really do. They feed off of it... literally. That is what they were there for... they were hungry for drama.

If what you say is true then we should disregard your post because you are a girl and therefore a drama queen and what you post is just dq stuff of no interest to anyone with a three digit iq.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 11:26:34 AM   
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Yea, we been accuse of human rights violations from the beginning of time, our founder was demonised like Hitler and a dictator too.

Which you have agreed that he is hitler like and you love it.


But doesn't change the fact that our kids top the world in education,

You are from that third world shithole called singapore and you are dumber than shit.


and people are living good lives and jobs are plentiful.

A third of that third world shithold called singapore lives below the poverty level.


Asia has different ideas over all on what constitutes a "human right".


Stop making shit up.

The end result is, we have less poverty in Singapore than in America.


Amerika poverty rate is half that of that third world shithole called singapore.Look it up dumbass I have posted it for you many times.



I'm so glad by the way, people keep harping about our lack of freedom of press. But thanks to that, our press don't deliver fake news.


It delivers what the government tells it to deliver. Why do you decry that in amerika and support it in that third world shithole called singapore?




Our caning is great! Rapists and Molestors get them.

So do those who overstay their visa,those who "illegally" loan money,those who put up signs in opposition to the goverrnment.
To those who hate freedom the third world shithole called singapore is heaven on earth.




And I'm not for gay marriage.

Clearly not for freedom of choice.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 11:41:24 AM   
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They marched because they are drama queens, not because they care who is the President. I know people will read this and just think it is a sarcastic comment, but it's not. Many women.... many many women... love drama. They really do. They feed off of it... literally. That is what they were there for... they were hungry for drama.

If what you say is true then we should disregard your post because you are a girl and therefore a drama queen and what you post is just dq stuff of no interest to anyone with a three digit iq.


Instead of disregarding my post why don't you offer up an explanation as to why people were involved in this march if they didn't vote in the election.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 11:54:59 AM   
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They marched because they are drama queens, not because they care who is the President. I know people will read this and just think it is a sarcastic comment, but it's not. Many women.... many many women... love drama. They really do. They feed off of it... literally. That is what they were there for... they were hungry for drama.

If what you say is true then we should disregard your post because you are a girl and therefore a drama queen and what you post is just dq stuff of no interest to anyone with a three digit iq.


Instead of disregarding my post why don't you offer up an explanation as to why people were involved in this march if they didn't vote in the election.


Because it brings their agenda into focus and into the spotlight.
It was so effective, it spanned the world and encompassed millions of supporters.
It worked.... very well.

And FYI, most of them aren't in the US so they couldn't vote if they wanted to.
The voting part is a red herring because it wasn't about voting.


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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:05:34 PM   
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Then, let's add in the element of violence. Very rarely does one see "right wing-based" protests that turn into looting and other violence.


Hmmmmm . . . how do we tell the difference between "right wing-based" violent looters and protesters as opposed to identifying "left wing-based" violent looters and protestors? Do they wear different uniforms? Different arm bands, at least?

I'll wait . . .

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:15:09 PM   
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Which you have agreed that he is hitler like and you love it.

A good dictator who only wants best for his country and his people can be better than a President who was voted democratically. I am sure the lefties are the ones feeling this the MOST today.
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You are from that third world shithole called singapore and you are dumber than shit.

Still doesn't change that our kids still score the top place in world for education. Highest scores. It's very competitive studying here. 40% of my class, a public school, scores full marks. 100% for subjects like mandarin, maths and science. It's pretty hard to score full marks for English due to Composition, but you still get 95% and above for those 40% who scored full marks in other subjects. I wonder how many kids in a typical American school scores full marks. In math and science at least. And my grades were hovering in the 97% to 90% range, I've never hit the 100%, and I was one of the lowest scorers in class. And our exams aren't easy since when competing with the rest of the world in international exams. Our kids still score the best. And that's the standard. Just recently one parent wrote to complain why his son scored 97% for his mandarin and couldn't get into higher mandarin class. Because only top 25% of the school can enter higher mandarin. And despite scoring 97%, he is not top 25%. Again, this was in a public school and not even a private one.
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A third of that third world shithold called singapore lives below the poverty level.

Yea keep spreading that lie.
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Amerika poverty rate is half that of that third world shithole called singapore.Look it up dumbass I have posted it for you many times.

This is your number 1 bullshit repetitive lie.
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It delivers what the government tells it to deliver. Why do you decry that in amerika and support it in that third world shithole called singapore?

No our news work independently from the government. They simply need to prove that what they report is the truth. They are expected to report corruption in the government, and do their own undercover findings, AS LONG as they have solid proof. And they absolutely do. It's all about responsible journalism. As long as they can prove what they write is truth.
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So do those who overstay their visa,those who "illegally" loan money,those who put up signs in opposition to the goverrnment.
To those who hate freedom the third world shithole called singapore is heaven on earth.

Since I am not a big fan of illegal immigrants in my country, if they get caned, that's their fault for over-staying. Those who illegally loan money definitely NEEDS to be caned. Do you know what their interest is? It's like 30% per month. And many desperate gambling addicts get into these stupid debts. Protesting is illegal here, yes, as it causes public disruption. Seen so many protests that got violent in the west. We don't want that here. We need everything smooth running everyday with no hiccups or disruption to society. If people wanna protest, they got the internet now. Use it!

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Clearly not for freedom of choice.

When something is detrimental to a child. I'd say, they shouldn't encourage such family unit. Greater good! I do not encourage same sex couples to have children. I don't think it's healthy for the child's development to not have the balance of both genders.


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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:27:35 PM   
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They marched because they are drama queens, not because they care who is the President. I know people will read this and just think it is a sarcastic comment, but it's not. Many women.... many many women... love drama. They really do. They feed off of it... literally. That is what they were there for... they were hungry for drama.

If what you say is true then we should disregard your post because you are a girl and therefore a drama queen and what you post is just dq stuff of no interest to anyone with a three digit iq.
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Instead of disregarding my post

I disregarded your post because you told me to disregard it. You said you were a drama queen and no intelligent things come out of your mouth



why don't you offer up an explanation as to why people were involved in this march if they didn't vote in the election.

Perhaps you should ask them. Is it possible that some could be against both trump and bill's wife?

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:30:00 PM   
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Pay attention dumbass. If islam takers over amerika who is gonna supply your military hardware. So when you say
So if the muslims control amerika and shut off your suply of arms where will you get arms???china...roflmfao...sell you arms???? they woud just take over.
Russia not likely since they like muslims too...notice how buddy buddy putin and syria are.

Fortunately, Muslims also infight within themselves and do not have unity too, so your scenario may not be exactly how it will go down. They still need to sort out their Shia and Sunni and Wahabi. They would have to sort out among themselves, who is the true Islam too. It can only work country by country after. They need to agree on which sect of Sharia Law they gonna instill in America.

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How many trillion dollars have you spent on a plane that does not fly? roflmfao...the boys over at bldg 42 are working three shifts.

I have no idea what you are referring to. But doesn't matter. Military spending for now is absolutely necessary. We are smaller than Malaysia and Indonesia, but at least we want to have better military toys than they do.
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For all of your alleged "dough" tell me how many of your tactical fighters are operational today? I read about some issues with some spare parts that were being held up in transit???

That's just China being upset with us for being friendly with Taiwan. Withholding our tankers. I guess Singapore can learn from it and not have those things pass through China run places in the future. It's the first time it ever happened, they confiscated our machines. China getting very bullying about anybody who supports Taiwan, which is why I am glad Trump is telling them to fuck off about being friendly to Taiwan.
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Well now there is the rub now isn't it. If you don't have weapons to defend yourself why would china sell to you instead of just taking over. On the other hand if china did sell you weapons what would be the change over time from the u.s. standard to the chinese? That change over time would allow your muslim enemies to overun that third world shithole called singapore.

I am sure when Muslims take over the world, all Chinese nations will have unity, and I wouldn't worry about China also being our enemy. There is a patriotism to being Chinese that is always there. We don't agree with each other, but when face with a common threat, we will all definitely work together. It's just our culture.
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Yes.

Prove it Liar.





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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:33:59 PM   
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Which you have agreed that he is hitler like and you love it.



A good dictator who only wants best for his country and his people

Hitler,stalin and mao fit that description. You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You support dictators and pimp democracy when your candidate wins but not when he looses.
It is this dichotomy that leads me to remind you once again that...
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:41:11 PM   
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Which you have agreed that he is hitler like and you love it.

A good dictator who only wants best for his country and his people

Hitler,stalin and mao fit that description. You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You support dictators and pimp democracy when your candidate wins but not when he looses.
It is this dichotomy that leads me to remind you once again that...
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


End of the day, my country is an example of how good dictatorship works to bring progress to a country in so little time. Only 50 years old. And as the population got educated, how they slowly slowly transform to reflect more of a democractic society, loosening their reins. Essentially, the government wants to nurture this whole nation of uneducated backwards people, which we were, to be a capable democracy of informed and educated people.

It is arguable if Hitler and Stalin and Mao were for themselves or for improving the lives of their people.

Alot of third world country are struggling because, they try to do democracy, but they don't have the informed educated population to vote for the right reasons. So their progress will be alot slower than ours, because it will take awhile for uneducated bunch to vote in the right person who can bring the country forward to a better place. They will continually keep voting the wrong person for awhile before they get there.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 12:46:05 PM   
mnottertail


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They marched because they are drama queens, not because they care who is the President. I know people will read this and just think it is a sarcastic comment, but it's not. Many women.... many many women... love drama. They really do. They feed off of it... literally. That is what they were there for... they were hungry for drama.

If what you say is true then we should disregard your post because you are a girl and therefore a drama queen and what you post is just dq stuff of no interest to anyone with a three digit iq.


Instead of disregarding my post why don't you offer up an explanation as to why people were involved in this march if they didn't vote in the election.


I believe they voted and thats why they marched, there is no other causal relationship established.

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