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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 2:40:38 PM

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Greta, you claim that the US needs trade with Singapore.

Currently the imports from Singapore into the US ranks at 17th, barely $49 billion annually.

Of course, with a total of $20 trillion dollars worth of goods imported annually, not so much.

And bragging about a military force that ranks 64th in total strength world wide, with an active duty strength of 71,600 and a reserve force of just over 1 million, well consider a hamster against a lion with any of your neighbors.

In other words, Greta, any of the neighboring countries would go through Singapore like a hot knife through butter.

I mean, strength wise, Israel is about the same, but lets face it, Israel has won every war it has fought, against overwhelming numbers.

And the only reason that Singapore is an independent country is that after two years of dealing with Singapore bullshit, blood shed and various other problems, the Malaysian Federation kicked you people out.

So, why not admit that half of what you say is bullshit.

You decry the freedom of the press, saying that in Singapore, you cannot print or televise lies. Consider that this also means you cannot print anything that criticizes the government. In other words, say something derogatory about the government and you land your ass in jail... remember Chia Thye Poh?

Thirty two years without trial, give me a break.

So, give

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 2:44:42 PM

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Greta, you claim that the US needs trade with Singapore.

I never said that. You are putting words into my mouth. I am saying, we are contributing money to the US by buying from them Made in the USA products. I am sure US buys nothing from us. So in that, they win, and we simply give them free money! But that's why we have such a good relationship with the US. Trump couldn't find any fault with us for sure! This is what he wants. Countries to buy from the US. And US to stop buying from other countries.

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Consider that this also means you cannot print anything that criticizes the government.

Not true again. You can print articles to criticize the government as long as it's constructive.

Like that kid who got jailed. He drew a picture of our Founder anally fucking Margaret Thatcher. That was not constructive. So he got in trouble.

But many articles get on our local papers criticizing the government policies that people disagree with. Constructive ones, offering alternative solutions. These are things our government want to hear. IF you disagree. What are your solutions? And they do listen and implement if it makes sense. Especially in our last Election. We wrote so many complain letters about so many things and they made all the changes, so they got their 70% landslide win again, because they listened.

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And the only reason that Singapore is an independent country is that after two years of dealing with Singapore bullshit, blood shed and various other problems, the Malaysian Federation kicked you people out.

Because we fought for racial equality. IF you know anything about Malaysia. They only believe in Malay FIRST policies, all other races are second class citizens. So Chinese and indians will get inferior privileges. It's a very race based country. Singapore was fighting for equality for Indians and Chinese and got kicked out. Until today, Malaysia still haven't reached equality for all races. It's still a Malay First country. That's what their big protest Bersih is about. They are still fighting for equality for all races today.

I also believe that Mr Chia was at that point, disruptive to the country's success. If they haven't shut him down. Singapore wouldn't achieve what they have today. Wasn't he pushing for Communism? I never deny Singapore started very dictator-like to establish peace and order.

I love our ISA because it enables them to deal with Islamic Terrorists easily and swiftly without all the complicated Red Tape.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 2:58:25 PM

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Stop calling people names.

Don't be a dumbass and you wont get called a dumbass.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 2:59:43 PM

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You stated: Every source you have quoted about Singapore being this poverty ridden place has been written by Roy.

Your words speak of a 3rd-person source that Thompsonx is referring to.
You don't qualify who that person is.
And Roy is my name. so how do I know it wasn't referring to me??

How would I know Roy is your name?
I don't know anybody's real names here.

Roy is a Singaporean failed politician who Thompson keeps linking to his articles as a source to any information he claims about Singapore. Whether our CPF or our poverty rate.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 3:09:23 PM

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It got the notice of people around the world, wether, they believe in it or not, misinformation and bullshit or not....it got you upset and mouthy...it made the president of the united states, and other leaders know , that civil, human rights are not being ignored. That people are angry. Wether you like it or not.
And it means more than you can possibly understand.
Its not just about women,

Trump already knows lefties/feminazis disagree with his stances and are so mad that they are doing back flips over it. So ummm, what exactly has this changed? They are cracking a hissy fit over everything that Trump already knows between them and him. Can you cite anywhere of Trump telling them that he's sorry and he's going to change this and that for them? If not, what has this done again?

Instead of making shit up out of thin air about what this march has done, why is it so hard for you people to actually cite and show evidence of what difference this march has made?

Tweak

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Well actually why do you start all these stupid threads that all consist of one and the same message repeated endlessly? (Feminism is bad, women operate dual standards, men are hard done by etc etc blah blah blah)

Because it's my favourite topic, my pet topic. A lot of us have one. Why is it only different when I have one? Greta posts just as many anti muslim threads. Musicmystery posts just as many anti Trump threads.

Why is there a different standard for me?

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I wonder what you think you achieve by starting these threads.

The same what anyone else would think when posting in random forums. We like to see what others think.

Why is there a different standard for me?

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The only outcome I see is that almost every other poster finds you and your messages pathetic - you alienate all,

The topic of men's issues remains a taboo subject to even many right wingers. That's why I'm mostly the only one in here that brings up these threads.

You simply define it as "pathetic" because my posts stand up for men and criticise poor sensitive feminists. What do feminists do again? Oh that's right, they stand up for women and criticise men/men's rights. They're not defined as "pathetic" though due to another female loving double standard. What I define as "pathetic" is when feminists want to censor any film from men that they disagree with. What is also fucking pathetic is blaming a patriarchy phantom ghost for all your woes.

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In terms of advancing your agenda, I would say that the results of your threads is negative - the opposing agenda is the one enhanced by your threads.

As long as it makes people like you angry, the truth hurts!, that will encourage me even more to keep making these threads. I'm not here to get a back rub from you.

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That's not what I would call a "desirable outcome". That is not being "smarter than you",

Posting on random forums has nothing to do with what we were talking about with the concept of what is effective and what isn't. Does anyone expect any world changes/outcomes from posting in collarchat or are they just here for their own personal entertainment? Get real. Now you are being intellectually dishonest. This is what happens when you have lost the argument.

I'm smarter than you because I don't do stupid shit like jump up and down and cry on the street about something and expect everything to magically change because of it. This women's march is a perfect example. They had a bitch and cry on the streets. So now what? ROFL

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 3:37:25 PM

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Stop calling people names.

Don't be a dumbass and you wont get called a dumbass.

Don't be a jerk.... and you won't be a jerk.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 3:55:17 PM

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Yeah, I was not able to attend but was very proud to see what these women were able to accomplish. A very powerful statement.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 3:57:38 PM

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Yeah, I was not able to attend but was very proud to see what these women were able to accomplish. A very powerful statement.

They failed to make any kind of statement in the voting booth, where the real protest occurred

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:01:05 PM

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Because it's my favourite topic, my pet topic. A lot of us have one. Why is it only different when I have one? Greta posts just as many anti muslim threads. Musicmystery posts just as many anti Trump threads.

Why is there a different standard for me?

Well, possibly, because every time you start a thread against feminism you convince someone who was once neutral on the subject - or even anti-feminist - that he or she is actually pro-feminist. Greta is one of the latest examples. I've found myself blinking at what she's been saying in the last couple of days. However, ironically, Greta's anti-Muslim threads have a similar effect - her views are so ludicrously biased and prejudiced that even outright frothing anti-Muslims have found themselves objecting. Musicmystery's anti-Trump threads do not, however, fit into this mould, because he's able to present his views in a way that appears both informed and balanced.

I honestly think you've done more to promote feminism on these boards than I or any other self-proclaimed feminist has, RM. That is quite some achievement, considering you've done it entirely by accident.

Do you not think that it might be about time that you fundamentally reappraised your strategy? Seriously, your standard MO of a) finding some website (of which we all know there are many) that lambasts feminists and women in general and b) posting a link here, with just a few words of support for said website, included in which are choice words like 'feminazis' and 'cunts' ... is pretty clearly counter-productive. It doesn't help your cause - in fact it boosts the cause of exactly what you dislike.

All sarcasm aside, RM - and notwithstanding the fact that I really don't like you and you get so majorly up my nose - you *cannot* hope ever to win your argument the way you've been going about things to date. You must see that, surely? I do wish you'd take that on board.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:12:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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Yeah, I was not able to attend but was very proud to see what these women were able to accomplish. A very powerful statement.

They failed to make any kind of statement in the voting booth, where the real protest occurred

Actually, they did. Clearly, the world saw that the American people were led astray. Plus, Clinton had almost 3M more votes when the final count came in.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:17:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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You stated: Every source you have quoted about Singapore being this poverty ridden place has been written by Roy.

Your words speak of a 3rd-person source that Thompsonx is referring to.
You don't qualify who that person is.
And Roy is my name. so how do I know it wasn't referring to me??

How would I know Roy is your name?
I don't know anybody's real names here.

Roy is a Singaporean failed politician who Thompson keeps linking to his articles as a source to any information he claims about Singapore. Whether our CPF or our poverty rate.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:23:14 PM

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Actually, they did. Clearly, the world saw that the American people were led astray.

Led astray? The media relentlessly attacked President Trump while pitching T-Ball questions to Hillary. Even cheated - fed her debate questions prior to the debate. We were led astray by the media, but voted the correct way anyway

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Plus, Clinton had almost 3M more votes when the final count came in.

When the final count came in she lost the popular vote in more states by far. You know what's really funny is, if the media hadn't been lying and bragging about how badly she was going to beat Donald Trump, Hillary might have campaigned in Wisconsin and Michigan and several of the other states their propaganda preached that she had all locked up

Their attempt to help her by cheating, lying to us about the polls to claim she was inevitable, probably cost her the election.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:35:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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Well actually why do you start all these stupid threads that all consist of one and the same message repeated endlessly? (Feminism is bad, women operate dual standards, men are hard done by etc etc blah blah blah)

Because it's my favourite topic, my pet topic. A lot of us have one. Why is it only different when I have one?
Why is there a different standard for me?

Quite simply RM, everyone has other topics and different points of view on different subjects.
Even Greta does.

You, have one topic. Just the one.
Every single thread you start is always on one single topic.
Every single post you make is always claiming victimhood for yourself and downtrodden men.
Any thread you post on gets steered into a feminazi thread by you.
Every link you post is extreme right wing, or a blog, or doesn't support your ethos and mindset.
You constantly and vociferously slate feminism.
You attack various other female posters on here too - unjustifiably.
Anyone who disagrees with you gets called a nazi or other disagreeable insult.
You cannot discuss or debate - it's your way or everyone is a nasty piece of work.

You are a one-trick pony.
A whiny, whinging, moaning, spiteful little babyman at that.

That's why you are held to a different standard to everyone else.
Try changing the tune.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:37:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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Yeah, I was not able to attend but was very proud to see what these women were able to accomplish. A very powerful statement.

They failed to make any kind of statement in the voting booth, where the real protest occurred

The only one who made a statement in the voting booth was Uncle Vlad...Right Comrade?

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:38:39 PM

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Plus, Clinton had almost 3M more votes when the final count came in.

When the final count came in she lost the popular vote in more states by far. You know what's really funny is, if the media hadn't been lying and bragging about how badly she was going to beat Donald Trump, Hillary might have campaigned in Wisconsin and Michigan and several of the other states their propaganda preached that she had all locked up

Their attempt to help her by cheating, lying to us about the polls to claim she was inevitable, probably cost her the election.

It probably did.
But that still doesn't detract from the fact that she got 3 million+ more votes than the circus peanut.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:45:10 PM

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I love our ISA because it enables them to deal with Islamic Terrorists easily and swiftly without all the complicated Red Tape.

Complicated red tape....

Another term for that is "go directly to the gallows, no trial, no questions."

And any government that cannot tolerate criticism of any sort, constructive or not, is not one I would live under.

Kind of reminds me of Stalinist Russia, Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain....

Part of the value of free speech is the right to criticize the government WITHOUT fear of reprisal.

Although, the tea party protestors, the idiots that tried to shut down wall street and the various right wing white supremacist groups would be in an already crowded penal system here in the US.

Live under a boot, and be happy.

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 4:55:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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I love our ISA because it enables them to deal with Islamic Terrorists easily and swiftly without all the complicated Red Tape.

Complicated red tape....

Another term for that is "go directly to the gallows, no trial, no questions."

And any government that cannot tolerate criticism of any sort, constructive or not, is not one I would live under.

Kind of reminds me of Stalinist Russia, Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain....

Part of the value of free speech is the right to criticize the government WITHOUT fear of reprisal.

Although, the tea party protestors, the idiots that tried to shut down wall street and the various right wing white supremacist groups would be in an already crowded penal system here in the US.

Live under a boot, and be happy.

You forgot Trump's Amerika

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 5:23:21 PM

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They failed to make any kind of statement in the voting booth, where the real protest occurred

Why so hostile. your boy was appointed just like every other amerikan president has been. You are just upset because the bitch pulled nigh on to 3 million more votes and that burns your ass like a knee high grass fire...don't it boy?

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 5:36:48 PM

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Well, possibly, because every time you start a thread against feminism you convince someone who was once neutral on the subject - or even anti-feminist - that he or she is actually pro-feminist.

Who exactly? A random person may have mentioned that a while ago and a couple of others parroted it simply because they are trying to find a way to invalidate my existence in this forum. Not because they were anti feminist and changed feminist or whatever. But hey, nothing is surprising when it comes from feminists. Just like their other delusions. Patriarchy boogeyman, believing the march did something when it actually did nothing. Feminists imagine heaps of crazy shit.

What you are simply trying to do is invalidate my existence on this forum because you can't handle a male disagreeing with your fucking lunatic feminist beliefs.

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Greta is one of the latest examples.

Where is the connection between me being an anti feminist and her showing a liking to a women's march? Jesus you feminists are fucking delusional nutjobs.

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her views are so ludicrously biased and prejudiced that even outright frothing

Yet when feminists try to fucking ban a film about male issues, a film that most of these feminists haven't seen to begin with, it's all the sudden not being ludicrously biased, prejudiced, and outright frothing. But if a male happens to criticise feminism and claim that men have problems too in a random site like collarspace, it's all the sudden ludicrously biased, prejudiced, and outright frothing. When a feminist claims that anything that's wrong in the world is the fault of men, it's all the sudden not being ludicrously biased, prejudiced, and outright frothing. But if a male happens to criticise feminism and claims that men have problems too in a random site like collarspace, it's all the sudden ludicrously biased, prejudiced, and outright frothing.

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Musicmystery's anti-Trump threads do not, however, fit into this mould, because he's able to present his views in a way that appears both informed and balanced.

You only see it that way because you are on his leftist side. Any view that you seem to disagree with is apparently ill informed and non balanced. There is a lot of irony there.

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I honestly think you've done more to promote feminism on these boards than I or any other self-proclaimed feminist has, RM. That is quite some achievement, considering you've done it entirely by accident.

Feminists love making up stories. They have lots of fairy tales about the patriarchy ghost. I'm sure pointing out feminist hypocrisy and totalitarianism is really helping the cause of feminism. Ask peeon.

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Do you not think that it might be about time that you fundamentally reappraised your strategy? Seriously, your standard MO of a) finding some website (of which we all know there are many) that lambasts feminists and women in general and b) posting a link here, with just a few words of support for said website, included in which are choice words like 'feminazis' and 'cunts' ... is pretty clearly counter-productive. It doesn't help your cause - in fact it boosts the cause of exactly what you dislike.

Whatever is posted here, no matter what topic, what people say, do you really and truly think that it goes anywhere past collarspace? It's impossible to gain any productivity from what is said in this random space.

You are trying so mighty hard to invalidate my existence in this forum and for what? For doing what exactly everyone else does in this forum, except a different topic. Your problem with this is the topic.

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you *cannot* hope ever to win your argument the way you've been going about things to date. You must see that, surely? I do wish you'd take that on board.

This is laughable. I already won the argument in here. Anyone reading this thread can realise that no one can come up with a citation to prove that this march was effective. You people haven't got a leg to stand on. You just keep making up assumptions out of thin air as your argument. This proves my point! You lot have just been shredded to bits. But you won't admit this of course.

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Quite simply RM, everyone has other topics and different points of view on different subjects.
Even Greta does.

You, have one topic. Just the one.

I'm guessing you've missed my other rants about muslims, leftists in general, race issues, Hillary etc. But hey, who are you to dictate what topics I post in here? Who is anyone that isn't the owner or moderators on this site to dictate what topics and how often I post it? If people are entitled to post about muslims, Trump, the alt right, over and over, that means I'm entitled to post about feminism and men's issues over and over.

Not to mention, I'm the only one that show's uniqueness in what I post. That's a bigger contribution than anyone that post the same shit which a 100 other people have started a thread about.

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Every link you post is extreme right wing, or a blog, or doesn't support your ethos and mindset

What is said in any link you disagree with, you attack the website instead of what is said. Just like when you lose arguments against me, such as in this thread, you attack my existence in this forum and quit carrying on the argument that you lost.

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Anyone who disagrees with you gets called a nazi or other disagreeable insult.

But when people do it to me, it's alll okay lol.

Anyway, so now this has turned into attacking my existence on this forum as you lot have already lost the argument. So what next? Keep attacking my existence in this forum and hope that your defeat of the argument all gets forgotten?

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RE: Women's March - 1/23/2017 5:48:34 PM

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This is laughable. I already won the argument in here. Anyone reading this thread can realise that no one can come up with a citation to prove that this march was effective. You people haven't got a leg to stand on. You just keep making up assumptions out of thin air as your argument. This proves my point! You lot have just been shredded to bits. But you won't admit this of course.

Your premise that it was effective is this thread, no citation needed. Your premise that it was effective is the millions of people who marched..Its set to be the biggest protest in americas history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women's_March
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/14/womens-march-on-washington-protest-size-donald-trump

But if you were expecting an overnight change then your premise is pathetic.
your expectations exceed reality....again.
Instant gratification doesnt happen with laws and human rights.
you havent proven anything, we all know you cant.

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