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mnottertail -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 5:47:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: So we have a grandmother being detained in a facility that is not equipped or set up to keep people over any extended period, let alone hold anyone with any kind of serious health condition, and should she have a heart attack, due to procedures, she would probably be dead before first EMTs could actually get to her to do any good. Not to mention the five-year-old torn from his mom, the detainees denied their medications, the CBP's defiance of a federal judge's order to allow detainees to meet with counsel . . . . Trump has given our enemies the best propaganda/recruiting tool they've had in ages. You freaks can't provide links? What's the problem, are you pushing fake news again. Or what? You dont get live tv there in your moms basement at her compound? Did she take away your sock and hand lotion again?

heavyblinker -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 8:30:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Well you only need 1 right? So would you take a risk that you could save someone else with a gamble on your own way of life? Because that is what the US is doing by taking Muslims that follow a cancerous political ideology into our country. So you want them all to die. Okay, well just don't pretend you aren't a fascist from now on then.

Musicmystery -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 8:41:35 AM)
What the Bannon Administration is doing NOW is a cancerous, political ideology in our country.

dcnovice -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 8:52:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery What the Bannon Administration is doing NOW is a cancerous, political ideology in our country. This is one of those clarifying moments in American history, and like most such, it came upon us unawares, although historians in later years will be able to trace the deep and the contingent causes that brought us to this day. There is nothing to fear in this fact; rather, patriots should embrace it. The story of the United States is, as Lincoln put it, a perpetual story of “a rebirth of freedom” and not just its inheritance from the founding generation. Some Americans can fight abuses of power and disastrous policies directly—in courts, in congressional offices, in the press. But all can dedicate themselves to restoring the qualities upon which this republic, like all republics depends: on reverence for the truth; on a sober patriotism grounded in duty, moderation, respect for law, commitment to tradition, knowledge of our history, and open-mindedness. These are all the opposites of the qualities exhibited by this president and his advisers. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/a-clarifying-moment-in-american-history/514868/

Musicmystery -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 1:03:39 PM)
opposite indeed

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 2:53:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery In a given year, the ACLU typically raises about $4 million online. Since Saturday morning, it raised $19.4 million. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/01/29/aclu-fundraising-records-muslim-immigrant-ban/97218098/ Its membership has doubled since the election. The donations will be used to increase staffing Well, I think arguing that donations for questionable (and frankly, debatable) agencies argues that....Sharpton, who can't find a way to pay his taxes yet found enormous favor with the previous POTUS, so much so that he was a truly favored advisor (WHAT????), would singularly argue that logic doesn't always play a part in current politics (then....or now)....ergo....I would argue further that the ACLU is not at all the precursor of American politics....moreover....popular opinion.

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 2:56:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery At a great betrayal of American values and of the Constitution. Interesting....I expected more from you. This (your post) followed a post regards job creation. And....he (Trump) has done so....maybe not as much as some would prefer....maybe not even factually (we can all debate the facts)....but....he has created an atmosphere towards jobs, and the creation of same. That is not unclear. (And just for clarity....he has not....even for one second....abridged or affected the Constitution....yet). Could be coming but...as of yet...it has NOT occurred.

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 3:02:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery At a great betrayal of American values and of the Constitution. Islam is a dangerous political ideology hiding behind the mask of a religion. To allow that to grow in our country would be a complete betrayal of American values and totally undermine our Constitution. Tamaka....Islam is a religion....we....protect same. What we are NOW doing is saying....(clearly).....we will NOT abridge the safety of OUR citizens UNTIL.....we have some factual evidence that.....simply....they don't want to hurt us. You. Me. And anyone that doesn't grasp the 90 - 120 period wherein which our government is working very diligently to ensure that occurs and....PRESUMES it is about Muslims.....is simply wasting time writing and reading because.....it's about protecting U.S. citizens. Nothing more and....certainly.....nothing less.

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 3:07:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Islam is a dangerous political ideology hiding behind the mask of a religion. To allow that to grow in our country would be a complete betrayal of American values and totally undermine our Constitution. Okay, since you believe this so strongly and you're unwilling to change your mind, what do you think should happen to the Muslim refugees? Why not take a clue from those who know Muslims best - other Muslims Five of the wealthiest Muslim countries have taken no Syrian refugees in at all, arguing that doing so would open them up to the risk of terrorism. Hmmm....well....that's rather curious now....isn't it? I think it's rather interesting that Muslims...actually....don't want to take their compatriots....in to their own homes. Hmmm. Well then....I believe that does make a rather....forceful....statement.

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 3:12:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery from 7 countries where NO terrorists have come from to harm Americans Granted (as far as I know) but Trump didn't pick them. See here. K. Is that his signature at the bottom? The Obama administration targeted these countries for stronger vetting. This is Trump's pathetic attempt to pin his fascism on Obama and make it seem like a natural progression, despite the fact that outright bans were never considered. Someone should tell this disgusting lump of shit that you can only pin actions that happened BEFORE you took power on the last guy, and that this is a complete 180 in terms of American values. I think (I could be wrong) that, until we know why they want to kill us and....who of them wants that....this whole "vetting" thing....(kinda sounds alright to me).

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 3:15:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Re- education camps. And when they inevitably refuse to simply abandon their beliefs? It's quite a mess Mohammad created, isn't it? So.. genocide then? No. Understanding. (Let's hope {and for those of you that pray...pray that} they get some). (And....we as well).

AtUrCervix -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 3:25:02 PM)
Not meant to follow MM....although I actually agree with him (mostly)...let's all lose this "Christianity is best" and "Muslims shouldn't be herded in to some predetermined assumptions" crap. Let's deal with the facts: Christians were assholes for millennia. We...they...murdered. Today...we have a better solution....it's called "THINKING". Muslims today....murder. Not all (and not all Christians......murdered). I have no fucking idea what the solution is but...it sure as fuck ain't murder. Anyone got a better solution? (I actually don't have one...wish I did...but with them coming after us....there IS only one solution....protecting yours/mine and our own). What I do know is this....assuming Muslims will not come here to kill us....is fallacy. Why they want to....is probably because we did....and continue to do so in Christ's name. I don't think we can change their mind(s). I'm hopeful we can but....if we can't....there is one solution. (It's an awful one...where no one wins). I'm prayerful that they see the light and....as importantly.....our government finds a way to inform them (without either side killing more) that.....this shit has got to fucking stop.

tamaka -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 3:38:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix Not meant to follow MM....although I actually agree with him (mostly)...let's all lose this "Christianity is best" and "Muslims shouldn't be herded in to some predetermined assumptions" crap. Let's deal with the facts: Christians were assholes for millennia. We...they...murdered. Today...we have a better solution....it's called "THINKING". Muslims today....murder. Not all (and not all Christians......murdered). I have no fucking idea what the solution is but...it sure as fuck ain't murder. Anyone got a better solution? (I actually don't have one...wish I did...but with them coming after us....there IS only one solution....protecting yours/mine and our own). What I do know is this....assuming Muslims will not come here to kill us....is fallacy. Why they want to....is probably because we did....and continue to do so in Christ's name. I don't think we can change their mind(s). I'm hopeful we can but....if we can't....there is one solution. (It's an awful one...where no one wins). I'm prayerful that they see the light and....as importantly.....our government finds a way to inform them (without either side killing more) that.....this shit has got to fucking stop. Re- education (camps). Of course, iran might give us the solution in about 7- 8 years.

mnottertail -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 4:01:01 PM)
Felgobbler Gobbles can always be counted on to give you the fake news, so here is the real stuff: http://www.opensourceinvestigations.com/syria/gulf-states-response-to-syrian-refugee-crisis-a-myth-debunked/

Musicmystery -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 4:17:39 PM)
Expected more? This is an organization dedicated to protecting the Bill of Rights. It's an important part of the Constitution. If you expect me to part ways with THAT America, you thought wrong. And btw, back attcha. It's inconceivable any of this is happening. But here we are. And oh yes, we'll be fighting it.

bounty44 -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 4:31:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery This is an organization dedicated to protecting the Bill of Rights. im sorry what??? with little exception, the ACLU is effectively the legal arm for the leftists' agenda in America.

mnottertail -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/30/2017 5:16:37 PM)
You got felch in your ears? They most definitely are not. You are a factless nutsucker. http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<< remember, xtians are nutsuckers. They defended LTC North, and Lyn Nofziger, no more dedicated nutsuckers can be found felchgobbling in any airport bathroom. They defended Rush Limpdick on his drug charges, a nutsucker that nutsuckers felch on the floor of congress. Jerry Falwell one of the most retarded nutsuckers ever, and therefore a hero of felchgobblers, when he was denied baptizing other nutsuckers in a park, AND DEFENDED BY THE ACLU Dude, if you are gonna be a nutsucker, at least learn the nutsucker manifesto, and your felchgobbling history.

Musicmystery -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/31/2017 6:13:37 AM)
Yep. I just signed up to help protect bounty's rights too. Because that's what Americans do. Actual Americans.

BoscoX -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/31/2017 6:46:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Yep. I just signed up to help protect bounty's rights too. Because that's what Americans do. Actual Americans. Our moral savior, going to force us into communism for our own good [8\|]

BoscoX -> RE: ACLU blocks Trump's unconstitutional Muslim ban (1/31/2017 6:47:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery This is an organization dedicated to protecting the Bill of Rights. im sorry what??? with little exception, the ACLU is effectively the legal arm for the leftists' agenda in America. The morons are trying to pretend that the leftist agenda has always been "the American way" now [:D]

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