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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 11:58:10 AM   
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yes, and they have done it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7745868/Scientist-Craig-Venter-creates-life-for-first-time-in-laboratory-sparking-debate-about-playing-god.html
http://www.space.com/29057-life-building-blocks-created-nasa-lab.html
http://www.rdmag.com/article/2016/03/scientists-create-revolutionary-synthetic-life-form
http://www.livescience.com/54165-artificial-bacterium-has-smallest-genome.html

Yeah no, they haven't. From your space.com link:

"Nobody really understands how life got started on Earth," Scott Sandford, a space science researcher at Ames, said in a statement.

And Ventner's work, the subject of your other links, has nothing to do with the origin of life.

First they sequenced the genetic code of Mycoplasma genitalium, the world's smallest bacteria that lives in cattle and goats, and stored the information on a computer. Then they used the computer code to artificially reproduce the DNA in the laboratory, slightly modifying it with a "watermark" so it was distinguishable from the original natural one. Finally they developed a technique of stripping bacteria cells of all original DNA and substituting it with the new artificial code.

K.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:06:52 PM   
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As to what turned those proteins into single celled creatures no one has discovered that.

And, considering the world wide epidemic of terminal stupidity, I am of the opinion that evolution has stopped and de-evolution has begun.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:10:28 PM   
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But those that have 'found god' have only found [him] in their minds.

Where else, precisely, would you expect to find God? In the park feeding the ducks?

K.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:12:06 PM   
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And they will be disappointed when they die.
That's comedy, that is.

Comedy is watching petulant idiots (religious or otherwise) spouting off about things they can't possibly know.

K.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:15:02 PM   
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Interesting post, everybody to their own but I would like to point out that Jesus was not talking about violence but about being insulted and shooting someone for insulting you seems a bit extreme. ;-)



Serious Question:

I understand the whole "turn the other cheek" thing. Jesus also said: "He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword"

Forgetting the fact that Peter didn't die by a sword, do you think Jesus would have been behind rioting and burning buildings in order to keep other, opposing viewpoints from just being heard?

We know Jesus had a bit of a temper. He proved that in the temple with the bankers (money-changers). Do you suppose there might have been some things for which Jesus would have fought?



Michael

Thanx, again you make interesting points.

Do I think Jesus would have been behind rioting and burning buildings in order to keep other, opposing viewpoints from just being heard?
No I don't. That is not the example Jesus set for Christians to follow and he did not recommend that course of action either.

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"We know Jesus had a bit of a temper. He proved that in the temple with the bankers (money-changers). Do you suppose there might have been some things for which Jesus would have fought?"


Many Christianity won't accept it and will deny it but Jesus was not the wimp they try to make him out to be.

While on Earth Jesus was Warrior of God and fought mightily against heavily entrenched wrong ideas and traditions.

Most don't see it because he didn't pick up the "sword" (physical weapons) to do it but wielded spiritual weapons instead.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:34:24 PM   
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Which reminds us of the ancient ontological question: who created the Creator?

It's interesting that many feel that by just offering this question, they feel they have disproven the existence of God.
The fact is it neither proves or disproves God's existence of God, it's just another question that we have no real answer to, kinda of like asking how did all the nothing before the Big Bang turn into all the something after it.

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Aside from that unintended consequence of your remark . . yes, if a laboratory were to be set up intelligent consciousness would be required. Hopefully, it is not a shock to you to learn there is intelligent consciousness present on this planet. What does its presence prove?
That aliens from outer space are living on the Earth? ;-)

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:40:40 PM   
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But those that have 'found god' have only found [him] in their minds.
If you haven't found God, how would you know where others have found God?

In any case, I have to ask without a mind does a person find anything?

So isn't everything found in our minds?

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:44:31 PM   
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Some people feel a need for a god and obviously millions believe that so passionately...they will imagine one.
And vice versa, there are those who will imagine there isn't one.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:46:32 PM   
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And they will be disappointed when they die.
That's comedy, that is.

Which begs the question; what do you think death is?

;-)

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:48:04 PM   
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Consciousness is purely subjective, so oblivion is probably too much to hope for.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:48:57 PM   
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But those that have 'found god' have only found [him] in their minds.

Where else, precisely, would you expect to find God? In the park feeding the ducks?

K.


Well the Bible does indicate that God does feed the ducks.

;-)

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:52:56 PM   
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Your last moments stretched out for the rest of eternity.
Consciousness is purely subjective, so oblivion is probably too much to hope for.

Thanx.

So if you die a long lingering painful "death" that pain will be stretched out for eternity? Then let's hope for oblivion.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:56:34 PM   
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But those that have 'found god' have only found [him] in their minds.

Where else, precisely, would you expect to find God? In the park feeding the ducks?

K.



Didn't Bounty say earlier you could find him at a police station?


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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 12:58:02 PM   
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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 1:01:13 PM   
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But those that have 'found god' have only found [him] in their minds.

Where else, precisely, would you expect to find God? In the park feeding the ducks?

K.



Didn't Bounty say earlier you could find him at a police station?



Einstein once said he found god in complex math equations....

A couple of astronomers say the find him/her when they view DSO's.

And your average teenage American male finds him/her the first time they get laid.

As for me personally, I am still looking, and considering some of the stuff going on in his name, I am of the opinion he left this rock some centuries ago.


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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 1:03:49 PM   
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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 1:03:53 PM   
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Which reminds us of the ancient ontological question: who created the Creator?

It's interesting that many feel that by just offering this question, they feel they have disproven the existence of God.
The fact is it neither proves or disproves God's existence of God, it's just another question that we have no real answer to, kinda of like asking how did all the nothing before the Big Bang turn into all the something after it.

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Aside from that unintended consequence of your remark . . yes, if a laboratory were to be set up intelligent consciousness would be required. Hopefully, it is not a shock to you to learn there is intelligent consciousness present on this planet. What does its presence prove?
That aliens from outer space are living on the Earth? ;-)


But, do they have green cards or are they illegals? We need to know for the purpose of enforcing Trump's travel ban.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 1:07:03 PM   
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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 7:52:24 PM   
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yes, and they have done it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7745868/Scientist-Craig-Venter-creates-life-for-first-time-in-laboratory-sparking-debate-about-playing-god.html
http://www.space.com/29057-life-building-blocks-created-nasa-lab.html
http://www.rdmag.com/article/2016/03/scientists-create-revolutionary-synthetic-life-form
http://www.livescience.com/54165-artificial-bacterium-has-smallest-genome.html

Yeah no, they haven't. From your space.com link:

"Nobody really understands how life got started on Earth," Scott Sandford, a space science researcher at Ames, said in a statement.

And Ventner's work, the subject of your other links, has nothing to do with the origin of life.

First they sequenced the genetic code of Mycoplasma genitalium, the world's smallest bacteria that lives in cattle and goats, and stored the information on a computer. Then they used the computer code to artificially reproduce the DNA in the laboratory, slightly modifying it with a "watermark" so it was distinguishable from the original natural one. Finally they developed a technique of stripping bacteria cells of all original DNA and substituting it with the new artificial code.

K.


Actually, yeah yeah.
can life be created from chemicals. yes. has it been done. yes

dna artificially reproduced (chemicals in a lab) yes. has it been done. yes.
I have met the necessary and sufficient condtions of the statement that claims its a real piss cutter.

Its alive! its ALIVE!!!! ~ Colin Clive

So you got the Yeah part perfectly K, but epic fail on the no.

D in reading comprehension and in argument.
F in chemistry.

< Message edited by mnottertail -- 2/3/2017 7:53:40 PM >

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/3/2017 10:09:37 PM   
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Which reminds us of the ancient ontological question: who created the Creator?

It's interesting that many feel that by just offering this question, they feel they have disproven the existence of God.
The fact is it neither proves or disproves God's existence of God, it's just another question that we have no real answer to, kinda of like asking how did all the nothing before the Big Bang turn into all the something after it.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Aside from that unintended consequence of your remark . . yes, if a laboratory were to be set up intelligent consciousness would be required. Hopefully, it is not a shock to you to learn there is intelligent consciousness present on this planet. What does its presence prove?
That aliens from outer space are living on the Earth? ;-)


But, do they have green cards or are they illegals? We need to know for the purpose of enforcing Trump's travel ban.

I imagine they could produce a green card but it would probably glow in the dark.
;-)

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