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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 10:47:58 AM   
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Mnottertail, boscox is trumps twitter spokecreature, did you not know that? A festering maggot of a humanjobbie & prone to spouting arse spraying mayhem and " alternative facts" whilst looking The american public muppets straight in the een (eyes)

Amerciashire knows what a a jobbie is?

Give me a second even glaswegian I do not understand

Jobbie jobbie
ˈdʒɒbi/
nouninformal
1. jobbie (honest its a real word) a lump of excrement.

2. Een https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/een oh you northern Englanders I like you too, well your women at least, and have humped a few of your finer specimens

Yes! where else did you think he got it for the game of thrones

Game of Thrones "Jon Snow - The King of The North" Scene Season 6 Episode 10 Scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I9GKGkfK8U

Now does that make us Scottish peoples zombies or pixies? Like those pussies called Romans ever conquered my lands







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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:27:49 AM   
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The list of military Intel failures is long and marked through out history.

The operation was planned during the Obama administration, ordered by Trump and failed.

I would not compare it to Benghazi, but there are definite similarities to the Bay of Pigs.

It is not the first time a President gave the go ahead on an op that went south, it wont be the last.

So, in light of that, give it a rest, blasting Trump will not bring back the dead.

He went with the information he had, given him by the men that who were experts in this kind of operation, and it went south.

Spoken like a man who actually understands these things.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:34:54 AM   
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From the day he took office he was responsible for military actions authorized by his administration... Blaming a previous administration is not an excuse at all. The fact that the operation had problems is part of war... the problem is his refusal to take sole responsibility.

I have moved into seats of authority on several occasions... The first thing you do before you act is to review all existing procedures and proposals. The last thing I would do is continue with an existing project without a thorough review.

Mistakes will be made especially in war... what you do is accept responsibility... try to not make the same mistake again...and move on. What you don't do is try to deflect blame to others. By doing this he could lose the respect and support of the American people and the armed forces he is putting in harms way.

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I don't see where the president has blamed anyone else. His spokesman answered direct questions when asked, with the facts. Anything else is purely your imagination





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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:36:21 AM   
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Well let's go with that. If "the plan had been under consideration since November 7, and officials under the administration of Barack Obama reviewed and approved it January 6," then the failures in intelligence and planning would seem to devolve upon the Obama administration, leaving Trump guilty at worst of relying on the previous administration's assessment. One might also wonder if these unnamed "officials" cited by Reuters expressed their view prior to the raid, and whether it was considered to have merit by the military entities charged with carrying out the plan.


Oh look you put quotes around "officials"... I guess this is why Trump resonates with you so-- because he also likes to pretend that anything that threatens his team's reputation is fake.

And the reason Obama held off on approval is because he thought they needed to collect more intelligence. I'm going to say that he probably reached this conclusion after actually talking to people who knew about the operation and carefully weighing the options they presented. This is what intelligent, competent people do.

So how much intelligence collecting do you think Trump did before he signed off on it? How many military officials do you think he consulted? I mean, considering how he's spent the whole week ruining people's lives with executive orders, tweeting his bullshit, picking cabinet members, getting angry at the media, threatening Australia and Mexico, sanctioning Iran, etc...

Guess you didn't see the part about being approve by the previous administration.
Are you psychically connected to Obama? If not how do you know he a held up the strike, and B why?

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:37:09 AM   
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The list of military Intel failures is long and marked through out history.

The operation was planned during the Obama administration, ordered by Trump and failed.

I would not compare it to Benghazi, but there are definite similarities to the Bay of Pigs.

It is not the first time a President gave the go ahead on an op that went south, it wont be the last.

So, in light of that, give it a rest, blasting Trump will not bring back the dead.

He went with the information he had, given him by the men that who were experts in this kind of operation, and it went south.


Yeah, just like Bush did illegally invading Iraq and how many thousands did that kill (& continue to kill)? plus the trillions it has cost y'all and the egg on yer face, the world will never let you forget that fiasco, ever.. Apparently Repub Prez's dont learn from history, I see this as being the first of many, many military disasters for Trump & the American military.. Dont expect things to get better, Trump is 70 and is gonna keep doing things "his way" and everyone else be damned.. no matter how many people die as a result..

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:37:51 AM   
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Guess you didn't see the part about being approve by the previous administration.
Are you psychically connected to Obama? If not how do you know he a held up the strike, and B why?

Because everything bad in the world is Obama's fault now.
Did you not get that memo?

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:42:34 AM   
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In the real world, facts do matter.

Well let's go with that. If "the plan had been under consideration since November 7, and officials under the administration of Barack Obama reviewed and approved it January 6," then the failures in intelligence and planning would seem to devolve upon the Obama administration, leaving Trump guilty at worst of relying on the previous administration's assessment. One might also wonder if these unnamed "officials" cited by Reuters expressed their view prior to the raid, and whether it was considered to have merit by the military entities charged with carrying out the plan.

K.





where it wouold have been quietly swept under the carpet.



Right, the lefts crony media "watchdogs" are rabid about the right, totally silent about the left

Quite. Not a single word was ever said in the media about Benghazi, was it?

Yep, the media kept making up cover stories. Don't have to worry about that for the next 4 years.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:48:17 AM   
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Guess you didn't see the part about being approve by the previous administration.
Are you psychically connected to Obama? If not how do you know he a held up the strike, and B why?

Because everything bad in the world is Obama's fault now.
Did you not get that memo?

it would only be fair, four the last 8 years everything was Bushes fault.
Not only not but I didn't say it was Obama's I said it was planned and approve during his administration. Maybe nobodies fault. The anti Trump people on here seem to think this is like a game. In combat things happen that you can't foresee.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 11:54:27 AM   
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Status: online 		If president Trump acts without perfect intel, that's very bad

If president Trump does the things he needs to do to get perfect intel, that's worse

If president Trump doesn't act because he cannot obtain perfect intel, therefore a group of Muslims get away with a massive terrorist attack?

I am sure the alt left will be very forgiving and understanding

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 12:07:38 PM   
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If president Trump acts without perfect intel, that's very bad

If president Trump does the things he needs to do to get perfect intel, that's worse

If president Trump doesn't act because he cannot obtain perfect intel, therefore a group of Muslims get away with a massive terrorist attack?

I am sure the alt left will be very forgiving and understanding

Yeah, he runs an operation on a house with intel over 90 days old. What you got there is a fucking coward who hos no military experience, and a retard who thinks hes smarter than generals. And have we had a massive terrorist attack other than all those white nutsucker terrorist attacks and the nutsucker terrorist attack that Il Douchebagger made against American citizens? What religion is Il Douchbagger? Nutsucker is all I can find proof of, so therefore a White Nazi Nutsucker therefore got a way witha a massive terrorist attack against American citizens.

Thanks for pointing all that out for us, retard.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 12:31:17 PM   
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The list of military Intel failures is long and marked through out history.

The operation was planned during the Obama administration, ordered by Trump and failed.

I would not compare it to Benghazi, but there are definite similarities to the Bay of Pigs.

It is not the first time a President gave the go ahead on an op that went south, it wont be the last.

So, in light of that, give it a rest, blasting Trump will not bring back the dead.

He went with the information he had, given him by the men that who were experts in this kind of operation, and it went south.

Spoken like a man who actually understands these things.


one would like to think that any normal adult not suffering from the recent hysteria would be able to say likewise.

the only issue I would take with the above is the judgment as to the success or failure of the mission.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 12:47:00 PM   
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The list of military Intel failures is long and marked through out history.

The operation was planned during the Obama administration, ordered by Trump and failed.

I would not compare it to Benghazi, but there are definite similarities to the Bay of Pigs.

It is not the first time a President gave the go ahead on an op that went south, it wont be the last.

So, in light of that, give it a rest, blasting Trump will not bring back the dead.

He went with the information he had, given him by the men that who were experts in this kind of operation, and it went south.

Spoken like a man who actually understands these things.


one would like to think that any normal adult not suffering from the recent hysteria would be able to say likewise.

the only issue I would take with the above is the judgment as to the success or failure of the mission.

I was taking into account the fact that any action with Trumps name on it which totally removed a threat with no loss of life would still, according to many on here, be considered a failure.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 1:06:46 PM   
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Yeah, just like Bush did illegally invading Iraq and how many thousands did that kill (& continue to kill)? plus the trillions it has cost y'all and the egg on yer face, the world will never let you forget that fiasco, ever.. Apparently Repub Prez's dont learn from history, I see this as being the first of many, many military disasters for Trump & the American military.. Dont expect things to get better, Trump is 70 and is gonna keep doing things "his way" and everyone else be damned.. no matter how many people die as a result..


Except:
1) Bush was told that the US did not have enough active duty troops to conduct a two theater war.
2) Every reason that Bush gave for the invasion was absolute and utter bullshit.
A) Iraq was in position of WMD's.
>The only WMD's discovered after the invasion were useless chemical rounds scattered in a disposal area due to the fact
the agent had long since gone inert and therefore the only danger the rounds were to anyone is if they physically hit
somebody.
B) Iraq was an active supporter of Al Qaeda
> Saddam's support of Al Qaeda was clear in view of the fact Bin Laden wanted Saddam dead, and every Al Qaeda operative
captured by Saddam's overt and covert police was executed without trial.
C) Saddam's military was a threat to the region
> After the first Gulf War, Saddam's military was only a threat to his own people, since due to the sanctions and trade embargo
he could not get parts for his Warsaw pact military equipment
3) And there is the fact that every general in the pentagon that disagreed with President Bush was either fired or forced to retire.

But, yeah, other than that, everything was sorta the same.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 2:09:10 PM   
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If president Trump acts without perfect intel, that's very bad

If president Trump does the things he needs to do to get perfect intel, that's worse

If president Trump doesn't act because he cannot obtain perfect intel, therefore a group of Muslims get away with a massive terrorist attack?

I am sure the alt left will be very forgiving and understanding

Or, Trump gets sufficient intel before being a jackass ... not to mention needlessly sacrificing lives.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 2:19:37 PM   
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Or, Trump gets sufficient intel before being a jackass ... not to mention needlessly sacrificing lives.


Someone like you, who has gone way over the edge into insanity and therefore habitually runs with any ridiculous fake news article as long as it fits your narrow-minded ideologically driven preconceived narrative, is inherently incapable of judging such a situation either intelligently or impartially

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 3:05:27 PM   
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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 3:14:17 PM   
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The list of military Intel failures is long and marked through out history.

The operation was planned during the Obama administration, ordered by Trump and failed.

I would not compare it to Benghazi, but there are definite similarities to the Bay of Pigs.

It is not the first time a President gave the go ahead on an op that went south, it wont be the last.

So, in light of that, give it a rest, blasting Trump will not bring back the dead.

He went with the information he had, given him by the men that who were experts in this kind of operation, and it went south.

Spoken like a man who actually understands these things.


one would like to think that any normal adult not suffering from the recent hysteria would be able to say likewise.

the only issue I would take with the above is the judgment as to the success or failure of the mission.

But not nutsuckers, they aint only not normal they are retards!!

Yemen! Yemen! Yemen! lock him up, investigate his criminal lying ass. Lets have at least 22 investigations covering the next 4 years for this fucktard who BLAMED IT ON AN OBAMA VIDEO ON THE INTERNET. HE KILLED HOW MANY AMERICAN CITIZENS AND LIED TO THE FAMILIES OF THESE FALLEN HEROS.

LOCK this nuitsucker up.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 3:16:53 PM   
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agreed

You two fuckin retards with all your ignorant lying shit on probed and all your other threads? Get a bathroom and start cirlefelching you vile fuckwhistles.

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 4:12:31 PM   
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Or, Trump gets sufficient intel before being a jackass ... not to mention needlessly sacrificing lives.


Someone like you, who has gone way over the edge into insanity and therefore habitually runs with any ridiculous fake news article as long as it fits your narrow-minded ideologically driven preconceived narrative, is inherently incapable of judging such a situation either intelligently or impartially

So...if it wasn't Trump, who ordered it on insufficient intel?
Or did it never happen, like Bowling Green?
What's fake? What's the correction?

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RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 wom... - 2/5/2017 4:14:21 PM   
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So...if it wasn't Trump, who ordered it on insufficient intel?
Or did it never happen, like Bowling Green?
What's fake? What's the correction?



Read what Kirata posted, I see no sense in repeating his words.

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