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RE: Stupid question - 3/3/2017 4:36:58 AM   
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Someone will still have to work, unless the robots are going to maintain themselves. And, there goes innovation, unless you give the robots a damn good AI, at which point, they might end up deciding that humans are entirely unnecessary....



That's actually what is predicted to happen.

Who has made that prediction besides morons like yourself?

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RE: Stupid question - 3/3/2017 7:12:27 AM   
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Why is it up to Libs & Dems to create businesses to employ people? Isnt that what Trump campaigned on and said he would do, Make America Great Again & all that shite? He won, thats on him now.. Just sayin'..

Because it's the Libs/Dems that are pissing and moaning about ebil corporations not paying people enough and outsourcing jobs, or simply not hiring enough people.

so then you are fine with outsourcing and paying people so little that they cant pay for the basics (which is why most people become homeless)? I dont recall people/Libs & Dems complaining about corps not hiring enough people, other than ya can never find a store clerk (etc) when ya need one..
Again, those things are what Trump campaigned on (he condemned outsourcing low wage workers, etc, signed EO about "cheap" HB1 workers, etc) so obviously Rs arent happy about it either cuz they voted for and elected him.. again, its on him now.. he wanted the job, he got it..
Personally, I dont care about outsourced jobs, cuz I grew up with outsourced shite from the US (cuz US corps could produce cheaper than Canadian corps could).. Now the US is seeing the effects of what I grew up with and funny thing, they dont seem to like it much when the shoe is on their foot..

Go get the duct tape and wrap your head with it before you read the rest. It's probably going to make your head explode...
I'm not an R, and I didn't vote for Trump, so what he stumped for on the campaign trail is immaterial. I believe Trump is wrong in opposing outsourcing. The left sees it as being businesses' responsibilities to lower unemployment (hire more people) and pay better wages. Yet, they don't pick up the ball themselves and create those businesses to hire more people and better wages. They don't put their money where their mouths are.
I'm fine with outsourcing and paying market rates. I'm fine with a person being allowed to work for whatever he or she is willing to work for (oppose minimum wage laws). I support voluntary Union membership, but if a worker doesn't want to join the Union, he or she shouldn't have to as a condition of employment (right to work).

Oh my head won’t explode, its screwed on right..


I don't know. I think it's screwed on definitely left.

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Yes, I know you have said before that you aren’t an R, that doesn’t matter imo, as you are bashing Libs/Dems when its been Trump who has bribed voters with the promise of bringing jobs back (presumably at businesses), so it seems to me that it’s the R’s/Trump that is saying its businesses responsibility to employ Americans.. After all, the D’s/Obama didn’t do anything to stop outsourcing so how can they believe what you are claiming they do? Both parties whore themselves out to the 1% & big corps, neither of them give a shite about the voters.. (at least I bash both parties.. )


LMAO. I think it's more like the R's and Trump want to make it so businesses choose to hire people. Just because Trump is talking about ending outsourcing, like the D's have been railing about for years, doesn't mean the D's are off the hook for their previous railing. Trump wants to change the business tax situation to foster an atmosphere where businesses want to hire more. Dem's want to jack taxes up AND for businesses to hire more AND pay more.

I fully believe Trump is wrong about tariffs, just like I believed the Dem's were wrong about tariffs.

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So you oppose minimum wage laws, then you must also oppose unemployment insurance and medicare and workers compensation and social security and veterans affairs, after all, if a worker takes a job where they risk getting injured or die then its on them for taking the job in the first place, right? And children working for next to nothing in coal mines is their right to do also.. cuz they are willing to work for that.. same thing with those that join the military, if they get their damn fool legs shot off then its on them for taking the job in the first place.. The US has just gone thru the worst “recession”/depression since the 30s, without protections in place this would have been ten times worse than it was..


You are lumping a whole lot of stuff in one basket that don't really belong there. Worker's Comp, Unemployment insurance, child labor laws, social security, and anything dealing with veterans has nothing to do with minimum wage laws. If we got rid of the minimum wage, do you think we'd have children working coal mines again? Really? Does jettisoning minimum wage laws mean unemployment insurance and social security are gone, too?

I don't even know what drugs you had to take to make any sort of accusation about my being opposed to veterans.

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One thing I can’t get over is just how humanitarian and caring so many Americans are..


Well, you have a completely different idea of humanitarianism and caring than I do. Why do you continue to live in a country that you don't like, filled with people who you think aren't humanitarian or caring? Or, does bitching about it satisfy some carnal itch?


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RE: Stupid question - 3/3/2017 6:15:39 PM   
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Trump wants to change the business tax situation to foster an atmosphere where businesses want to hire more.


The unemployment rate for U.S. workers has fallen from 10.7% in 2009 to 4.6% in late 2016. Was that the result of a change in the "business tax situation?" I don't think so. I think you have imbibed from the trickle-down kool aide.

The lowest unemployment rate in U.S. history was 1.2% in 1944 ffs. We needed a full blown war to get there.

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RE: Stupid question - 3/3/2017 6:52:12 PM   
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The 14th amendment does not count when children of US citizens give birth overseas. Those children are still considered US citizens. If children of American parents born in another country are still considered citizens of the US, why are children of foreign parents in this country not citizens of the same country as their parents?

As for reducing the number of unemployed, there are two approaches, one create more jobs and get everyone employed (includes military service) or let them drop out if the work force and stop looking so the number of people looking goes lower (sorta like Obama did.) If you have 90 million employed one year and 10 million reported as unemployed you have a 10 percent unemployment rate . If the next year you have 90 million employed and 5 million reported as unemployed, there was not a drop in the unemployment rate.

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RE: Stupid question - 3/4/2017 8:06:11 AM   
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If children of American parents born in another country are still considered citizens of the US, why are children of foreign parents in this country not citizens of the same country as their parents?

Who says they are not? Double citizenship is not unheard of.

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RE: Stupid question - 3/5/2017 12:01:15 PM   
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The 14th amendment does not count when children of US citizens give birth overseas. Those children are still considered US citizens.

Kinda like "ace" mccain and ted cuze?

If children of American parents born in another country are still considered citizens of the US, why are children of foreign parents in this country not citizens of the same country as their parents?

While they may or may not be citizens of another country our constitution makes them citizens of our country. This is usually taught in sixth grade civics. Were you in the shithouse smokin' fags during class?

As for reducing the number of unemployed, there are two approaches, one create more jobs and get everyone employed (includes military service)

We have the most powerful military in the world. the United States spends more money on defense than the next ten highest spending countries combined.Why do you want to make it larger? Are you planning on starting another war?

http://www.businessinsider.com/11-most-powerful-militaries-in-the-world-2014-4



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