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I think we need some type of hybrid system where the government pays for the hospital facilities and associated operating costs (building maintenance, etc) and insurance is purely for medical expenses.

Not a bad idea at all.

The thing is, there are 30 other OECD countries that have a national healthcare plan of some sort, even the most expensive of them being more than 1/3 less than healthcare in the US. We have the opportunity to cherry pick from all that as to what would work best for us.

But then there are all these bozos, one on this forum particularly, who say that those 30 countries have taken the first step to communism in that endeavor.

One can see the etymology of the term "stumbling block" quite easily when discussing healthcare in the US.

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Age 26.

That's not old enough.

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It's old enough. I put myself through university by working full time and going to school nights for close to ten years. In my early thirties I had no student debt and worked my way up to a position that paid well.

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Because the republican plan isnt going to do it, not by a long shot

24 million more uninsured by 2026 under GOP plan, CBO says

Health plan would lower deficit by $337 billion, analysis shows
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted the share of uninsured Americans would nearly double a decade from now. There would be 14 million more people without coverage a year after passage, the agency projected.
The report undermines President Trump’s pledge that no Americans would lose coverage under a GOP health-care plan and threatens support from the party’s moderate lawmakers. But Trump budget director Mick Mulvaney called the CBO analysis “just absurd.”

The analysis, released late Monday afternoon by the Congressional Budget Office, predicts that 24 million fewer people would have coverage a decade from now than if the Affordable Care Act remains intact, nearly doubling the share of Americans who are uninsured from 10 percent to 19 percent. The office projects the number of uninsured people would jump 14 million after the first year

But the GOP legislation, which has been speeding through House committees since it was introduced a week ago, would lower the deficit by $337 billion during that time, primarily by lessening spending on Medicaid and government aid for people buying health plans on their own.

The report predicted that premiums would be 15 percent to 20 percent higher in the first year compared with those under the Affordable Care Act but 10 percent lower on average after 2026. By and large, older Americans would pay “substantially” more and younger Americans less.

The 37-page report provides the most tangible evidence to date of the human and fiscal impact of the House GOP’s American Health Care Act. It also undermines President Trump’s pledge that no Americans would lose coverage under a Republican remake of the Affordable Care Act, which was enacted by a Democratic Congress in 2010.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/obamacare-revision-would-reduce-insured-numbers-by-24-million/2017/03/13/ea4c860a-0829-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_cbo-430pm-banner%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.fc7b0ddb2bad

I think (I'm fairly sure) you asked where his promises are.

....s....

Right where he left them....being implemented.

healthcare promises.....didnt you *get* the hint from the big picture i posted?
idiot

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healthcare promises.....didnt you *get* the hint from the big picture i posted?
idiot

I've addressed his healthcare promises.

As I have said. GOP and Trump have different ideas on healthcare.

I believe Trump wants everything he said. But can you imagine trying to get the GOP to agree to this?

Because before election, Trump's idea of healthcare was universal health care too, which GOP is strongly against!

This is a man who was not a Republican, but chose Republican platform to win.

Now he needs to figure out how to negotiate and get Republicans to come around to a mutually agreeable health plan.

As nothing of those he wanted can be passed without Republican's approval.

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Age 26.

That's not old enough.

It's old enough. I put myself through university by working full time and going to school nights for close to ten years. In my early thirties I had no student debt and worked my way up to a position that paid well.

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By and large, older Americans would pay “substantially” more and younger Americans less.

I think this is what young Americans want. They are already up to their necks paying their rent/student loans, just starting out in life.

It should be this way, where they got more disposable income to start saving up properly to be able to afford their increased premium in their older years.

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Age 26.

That's not old enough.

It's old enough. I put myself through university by working full time and going to school nights for close to ten years. In my early thirties I had no student debt and worked my way up to a position that paid well.