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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Are you having some problem understanding what I said so you have to restate It? Why don't you also restate the part about staying away from liberal controlled cities as well?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LMAO at Lott.joke right?????

Nope, have you read it?
;-)

It came out 12 years ago, and yes I have read it. I didnt fall under the bullshit spell then, and I dont buy it now.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR


Islamic State magazine steers followers to U.S. gun shows for ‘easy’ access to weapons

It's just as well, then, that the occasional private citizen can use his gun to stop a crime.

I haven't been to a gun show, but I'm very doubtful that they just hand over firearms without running background checks and verifying identification.

Back Alley sales maybe. There are criminals who will break the law to make money, but legitimate gun shows have the ATF up their backsides.

I will contact friends who do go, and recently to verify my assumption.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Are you having some problem understanding what I said so you have to restate It? Why don't you also restate the part about staying away from liberal controlled cities as well?

The figures are a total for the nation.

Syria is good - if you avoid the conflict zones.
What a stupid way to draw comparisons.
Totally ludicrous apples to oranges.


Even if we take your [invalid] figures, the US has 5x the population and more than 33x the death rates.
Now go do the maths and tell me it's comparable... it isn't even close.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Yes, my friend who frequents gun shows said background check only. Buy and walk out.

That shouldn't happen. I'm surprised it does.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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Well, if you were "honest" about the whole thing, in the case of the "anecdote" cited, it did exactly that, it reduced crime.

And I wasn't being "snarky", I was just pointing out that not only can "anecdotes" show that gun ownership can reduce crime but there statistical studies that show that it does as well.

Then explain to the rest of us how the gun crazy USA is the country with the highest number of deaths per capita?

Gun ownership in such high numbers creates death and misery - not reduce it.

Bama argues that gun deaths are reducing by what he calls 'a significant amount'.
By my calculation, it would take more than a century to bring it down to the levels of other civilised countries.
That ain't good enough.

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Let's see, 321,000,000 people in U.S. 721 killed by police.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org

721/321,000,000 = 0.000002

If you stay out of Chicago, Detroit, DC, gang neighborhoods that number effectively goes to zero. (All places run by liberals for the past three generations)

People killed by being shot by UK police, 4 in 2016. Population of UK 65,000,000

4/65,000,000 = 0.00000006.



You may have a slight point. But if you're here, just stay away from where liberals have power and it'll be just like home.

"slight point", LMAO
Indeed
so many 0"s must be clouding your mental agility
The UK is one fifth the population of the US(give or take a million or two)
so one fifth of 721 is 144.2 to equal the US
Actual numbers shot by police in the UK is 4 NOT 144
slight point indeed.

Are you having some problem understanding what I said so you have to restate It? Why don't you also restate the part about staying away from liberal controlled cities as well?

your zeros confused you....thats why I simplified it for you, to get you out of your bullshit loop

I addressed your old information in my following post.
cant you read?

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Yes, my friend who frequents gun shows said background check only. Buy and walk out.

That shouldn't happen. I'm surprised it does.

What did you have in mind, a 30 day waiting list?
;-)

No, just the requirement to drop off your registration to local LEO. If they wanted to catch homegrown radicals, checking on who doesn't register might help. People move a great deal, America is big. So, that wouldn't be any guarantee. I just had a brain fart, forgot that the rules vary, state to state.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Correction, my friend lives in TN. Just in case the gun laws different in KY, I don't want to be putting the wrong info out there.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Every time a thread on guns happens Annie.

Yeah. And every time I show stats that gun-toters who say it's a good thing are in denial.
There's always Bama and the likes of you trying to defend the attrocious deaths by guns.

You can't fix stupid.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Crime is caused, mainly, by drug fueled gangs. That is the reason 5 counties in this country have 2/3 of all murders. Put your futile and misguided attempts to take away peoples rights
and use it to crush gangs and you will make real progress.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Every time a thread on guns happens Annie.

Yeah. And every time I show stats that gun-toters who say it's a good thing are in denial.
There's always Bama and the likes of you trying to defend the attrocious deaths by guns.

You can't fix stupid.

You sure can't because we have tried for years.
We show you how across the country we have places with your kind of gun laws up to bans next to places with far more reasonable laws.
In every one the place with the draconian laws has a far higher crime rate both with and without guns, it is safer to use a knife when the government makes sure the victim is unarmed..
In each case you blame the higher rate on the area with the laxer laws but never once come up with any explination for why they have lower crime rate.
Last but by no means least NOBODY SAYS GUN KILLINGS ARE OK. We say don't go after legitimat gun owners, go after those who missuse weapons of any kind.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Crime is caused, mainly, by drug fueled gangs. That is the reason 5 counties in this country have 2/3 of all murders. Put your futile and misguided attempts to take away peoples rights
and use it to crush gangs and you will make real progress.

Tell that to your communities and police who don't lift a finger to do anything about it.
Get your other 'law abiding citizens' and start helping to eradicate the problem.
But you won't do that either; you just ignore those areas.

No matter how you slice the cake, you can't make a valid comparison if you exclude the bad bits.
That's just massaging the figures and is stupid.

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Well let me pose a question :

If you are say out in the garage and some guy comes up and wants to rob you, regardless of whether he is armed or not, and you pull out a gun and he runs away, do you call the cops ?

This is the US and I tell you, I bet most people don't. As long as they didn't have to pull the trigger they usually want to keep their mouth shut. Like me, I go out to the garage to smoke pot. the cops come and ask "what do I smell here ?", of course I answer "Lumber". But I do not need the hassle of talking to them and I do not need the hassle of a dead body either. I wouid have to call the kid to dig a hole, and I can't count on him in the middle of the night because he works days.

And there are crimes prevented just by the perp knowing you (or someone) is armed. Show me how many armed robberies took place at police stations. I know one happened at a gun store a few years back but that was a fluke. Another place is certain bars. they have a law now, which I think could be fought on Constitutional grounds, that you can't bring a gun to a bar. But armed robberies are still very rare at like biker bars because they like me, simply do not care what is legal and what is not. If the guy who shoots you goes to jail for thirty days and has to pay a fine, you are just as dead.

Getting caught killed or maimed is what prevents crime here. This is not a civilised society. We are an arrogant and spiteful people. Other countries are a bit different. What's ore their governments have learned that it is easier to manage people who are happy and content. The US government seems to want to do the opposite, and this is both parties, everyone. You get a job with the government here most people get on a power trip. Cops are the worst when it happens to them. Licensed to kill, and with attitude, and hatred.

But if anyone want to say we should not have guns, ask why the police have them. There is a reason.

We have the same reason.

T^T

It is perfectly legal to prohibit guns on private property...Re: Repub National Convention.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Correction, my friend lives in TN. Just in case the gun laws different in KY, I don't want to be putting the wrong info out there.

Pretymuch the same, Ky allows private sales witout checks and has no registration.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Guns kill

No, no, no, no, no. No. No! NO!! No!!! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No.

NO!

No. No, no, no, no. No, no. NO.

Guns don't kill, people kill.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Nobody has said gun owners dont stop crime.
thats a fallacy.
Anybody who says that doesnt follow crime stats.
And are idiots

Citation please.

"More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott
;-)

You missed the point.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Crime is caused, mainly, by drug fueled gangs. That is the reason 5 counties in this country have 2/3 of all murders. Put your futile and misguided attempts to take away peoples rights
and use it to crush gangs and you will make real progress.

Tell that to your communities and police who don't lift a finger to do anything about it.
Get your other 'law abiding citizens' and start helping to eradicate the problem.
But you won't do that either; you just ignore those areas.

No matter how you slice the cake, you can't make a valid comparison if you exclude the bad bits.
That's just massaging the figures and is stupid.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Crime is caused, mainly, by drug fueled gangs. That is the reason 5 counties in this country have 2/3 of all murders. Put your futile and misguided attempts to take away peoples rights
and use it to crush gangs and you will make real progress.

Tell that to your communities and police who don't lift a finger to do anything about it.
Get your other 'law abiding citizens' and start helping to eradicate the problem.
But you won't do that either; you just ignore those areas.

No matter how you slice the cake, you can't make a valid comparison if you exclude the bad bits.
That's just massaging the figures and is stupid.