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Wayward5oul -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 5:57:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

So again, when can I expect you to send me a blank check, or make a donation to ANY school in the states to help pay off these charges?


So your only solution is to punish the child and not the parent? Or demanding money from other people who is against shaming of children?

I mean seriously, what happens if the child died in school from food poisoning for example and you can't contact the parent when you call/email or sms them? You gonna send the child corpse back with a stamp that says, "Your child died"?

What bullshit is this?







This is the problem. The arm stamp is being falsely viewed as a punishment. It is not one. It is a form of communication. It is a reminder.

No one is being punished in this situation. A resolution is being requested.

You have an irrational belief that is consequently making you upset. You should work on attaining an effective new belief in order to cease and desist of negative side effect.




Exactly. Even the kids realize this. I discussed this with my son last night to make sure I wasn't remembering this the way I wanted to, but he confirmed it for me. Its a reminder. The kids know it, they acknowledge it, and life goes on. The adults are the only people making a big deal out of it.

No one is showing where kids are being bullied. Everyone is talking about a hypothetical, which I understand their concern, but it is an adult concern made from adult fears over money worries born out of paying bills.

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.




InfoMan -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 6:02:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

FR:
Not all homes have internet access. So how can they read the school's email?
Not all homes have computers. How can they access the internet to read the school's email?
Not all homes have phones. How is the school supposed to call home with a reminder?
Not all parents have cell phones. How is the school supposed to call or text?

So now what? How do you communicate with parents then?


How do you communicate with the parents in case of emergency in that situation?

you've constructed such a contrived situation that if it really does occur, then the parents have more to worry about then missing a lunch payment... Quite literally they would be completely oblivious if their child broke a bone or suffered some sort of medical trauma while at school. Not only that, lacking consent by a legal guardian - outside of immediate life stabilizing operations - that child will be forced to suffer through that pain until the school or the hospital can get approval to apply important medical treatment.


but i digress.

to answer your question:

Paper Mail.

You know - that thing that banks, governments, and other large organizations use to distribute important messages to individuals. And if you say 'Not all parents have a PO Box' i will say bullshit because to register your child for school you need a 'Proof of Residence'.




tamaka -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 6:09:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

So again, when can I expect you to send me a blank check, or make a donation to ANY school in the states to help pay off these charges?


So your only solution is to punish the child and not the parent? Or demanding money from other people who is against shaming of children?

I mean seriously, what happens if the child died in school from food poisoning for example and you can't contact the parent when you call/email or sms them? You gonna send the child corpse back with a stamp that says, "Your child died"?

What bullshit is this?







This is the problem. The arm stamp is being falsely viewed as a punishment. It is not one. It is a form of communication. It is a reminder.

No one is being punished in this situation. A resolution is being requested.

You have an irrational belief that is consequently making you upset. You should work on attaining an effective new belief in order to cease and desist of negative side effect.




Exactly. Even the kids realize this. I discussed this with my son last night to make sure I wasn't remembering this the way I wanted to, but he confirmed it for me. Its a reminder. The kids know it, they acknowledge it, and life goes on. The adults are the only people making a big deal out of it.

No one is showing where kids are being bullied. Everyone is talking about a hypothetical, which I understand their concern, but it is an adult concern made from adult fears over money worries born out of paying bills.

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.


You're from Alabama. That explains alot.




InfoMan -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 6:41:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Exactly. Even the kids realize this. I discussed this with my son last night to make sure I wasn't remembering this the way I wanted to, but he confirmed it for me. Its a reminder. The kids know it, they acknowledge it, and life goes on. The adults are the only people making a big deal out of it.

No one is showing where kids are being bullied. Everyone is talking about a hypothetical, which I understand their concern, but it is an adult concern made from adult fears over money worries born out of paying bills.

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.


Children will not tell their parents that they are being bullied, in fact often the first time a parent learns that their child is being bullied is when they come home with a physical mark such as a bruise, black eye, or a cut. There for to think that just because your child tells you that it is okay and that they think nothing of it is the furthest thing from the truth.

It is not a Reminder - it is a physical mark that some one else has placed on them. There are very distinct psychological connotations which the child will make and associate with.... Imagine if a machine Physically Stamps your hand 'Credit Card Denied' if you over draft or when it doesn't go through for what ever reason. You would be alright with that kind of 'reminder'? A visual sign which literally says that you couldn't pay for what you tried to buy and for every one in the world that walks by you to be able to see it?

If you are not alright with that - what makes you think a child would be?

What's more - i'm going to reference something some one else said.

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
And yeah, we need lunch money reminders, because with divorced households, and the kids not buying lunch at school every day (sometimes they bring their own) it's sometimes not clear how much money they still have left over in their accounts. If their mother has them eat school lunches for a while without putting money in, sometimes we're much lower than we thought.


In this instance - being stamped serves as a 'physical proof' that the divorce is their fault. They become a message which spurs an argument about how one parent didn't put money into the account. And actually is logically sound if the child comes to the conclusion that the argument and what even created the argument is their fault... Because if the child didn't eat - then obviously the parents wouldn't have to fight over who has to pay for their lunch.

The simple stamp which a parent might view as a convenient reminder, in this situation, can reinforce depressive and suicidal thoughts legitimizing the idea that things would be better if they where not there...


You might think this is hypothetical, but the Divorce Rate in the US is still between 40-50%
There are thousands of children which deal with that kind of life daily and blame themselves constantly...




Wayward5oul -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 6:48:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

So again, when can I expect you to send me a blank check, or make a donation to ANY school in the states to help pay off these charges?


So your only solution is to punish the child and not the parent? Or demanding money from other people who is against shaming of children?

I mean seriously, what happens if the child died in school from food poisoning for example and you can't contact the parent when you call/email or sms them? You gonna send the child corpse back with a stamp that says, "Your child died"?

What bullshit is this?







This is the problem. The arm stamp is being falsely viewed as a punishment. It is not one. It is a form of communication. It is a reminder.

No one is being punished in this situation. A resolution is being requested.

You have an irrational belief that is consequently making you upset. You should work on attaining an effective new belief in order to cease and desist of negative side effect.




Exactly. Even the kids realize this. I discussed this with my son last night to make sure I wasn't remembering this the way I wanted to, but he confirmed it for me. Its a reminder. The kids know it, they acknowledge it, and life goes on. The adults are the only people making a big deal out of it.

No one is showing where kids are being bullied. Everyone is talking about a hypothetical, which I understand their concern, but it is an adult concern made from adult fears over money worries born out of paying bills.

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.


You're from Alabama. That explains alot.


Oh, bless your heart.

Oh and by the way, it a lot, not alot. I guess they don't expect teachers from the North to know basic grammar.




tamaka -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 7:00:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

So again, when can I expect you to send me a blank check, or make a donation to ANY school in the states to help pay off these charges?


So your only solution is to punish the child and not the parent? Or demanding money from other people who is against shaming of children?

I mean seriously, what happens if the child died in school from food poisoning for example and you can't contact the parent when you call/email or sms them? You gonna send the child corpse back with a stamp that says, "Your child died"?

What bullshit is this?







This is the problem. The arm stamp is being falsely viewed as a punishment. It is not one. It is a form of communication. It is a reminder.

No one is being punished in this situation. A resolution is being requested.

You have an irrational belief that is consequently making you upset. You should work on attaining an effective new belief in order to cease and desist of negative side effect.




Exactly. Even the kids realize this. I discussed this with my son last night to make sure I wasn't remembering this the way I wanted to, but he confirmed it for me. Its a reminder. The kids know it, they acknowledge it, and life goes on. The adults are the only people making a big deal out of it.

No one is showing where kids are being bullied. Everyone is talking about a hypothetical, which I understand their concern, but it is an adult concern made from adult fears over money worries born out of paying bills.

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.


You're from Alabama. That explains alot.


Oh, bless your heart.

Oh and by the way, it a lot, not alot. I guess they don't expect teachers from the North to know basic grammar.


I like it better my way. Alot better.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 7:48:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: InfoMan


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Exactly. Even the kids realize this. I discussed this with my son last night to make sure I wasn't remembering this the way I wanted to, but he confirmed it for me. Its a reminder. The kids know it, they acknowledge it, and life goes on. The adults are the only people making a big deal out of it.

No one is showing where kids are being bullied. Everyone is talking about a hypothetical, which I understand their concern, but it is an adult concern made from adult fears over money worries born out of paying bills.

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.


Children will not tell their parents that they are being bullied, in fact often the first time a parent learns that their child is being bullied is when they come home with a physical mark such as a bruise, black eye, or a cut. There for to think that just because your child tells you that it is okay and that they think nothing of it is the furthest thing from the truth.

It is not a Reminder - it is a physical mark that some one else has placed on them. There are very distinct psychological connotations which the child will make and associate with.... Imagine if a machine Physically Stamps your hand 'Credit Card Denied' if you over draft or when it doesn't go through for what ever reason. You would be alright with that kind of 'reminder'? A visual sign which literally says that you couldn't pay for what you tried to buy and for every one in the world that walks by you to be able to see it?

If you are not alright with that - what makes you think a child would be?

What's more - i'm going to reference something some one else said.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
And yeah, we need lunch money reminders, because with divorced households, and the kids not buying lunch at school every day (sometimes they bring their own) it's sometimes not clear how much money they still have left over in their accounts. If their mother has them eat school lunches for a while without putting money in, sometimes we're much lower than we thought.


In this instance - being stamped serves as a 'physical proof' that the divorce is their fault. They become a message which spurs an argument about how one parent didn't put money into the account. And actually is logically sound if the child comes to the conclusion that the argument and what even created the argument is their fault... Because if the child didn't eat - then obviously the parents wouldn't have to fight over who has to pay for their lunch.

The simple stamp which a parent might view as a convenient reminder, in this situation, can reinforce depressive and suicidal thoughts legitimizing the idea that things would be better if they where not there...


You might think this is hypothetical, but the Divorce Rate in the US is still between 40-50%
There are thousands of children which deal with that kind of life daily and blame themselves constantly...


I was one of those kids raised in a broken home with parents fighting about child support and who had to pay for what. And I am now a divorced mother raising a child that has to go between two homes. I have also been in public schools for over 20 years dealing with kids who are dealing with these issues. I know exactly what you are speaking of, from all sides of the issue. And I can promise you, those that are having issues at home over mommy and daddy arguing over this, are having issues at home over mommy and daddy arguing over a lot of things. This is not the cause of a problem, it is a symptom, and is just one of many things that mommy and daddy are actively looking for to fight about. Been there done that, see it all the time.

I understand what the legitimate concerns involved with this issue are-let me stress the word legitimate here. But seeing this issue from all angles, at home as the parent who just forgot, as the parent who was short on money at the time, as the teacher who sees the every type of kid that comes through the door, it really is not the issue that the adults are making it out to be. There are so many other expenses in the schools these days, honestly it is ridiculous, that I think have the potential to highlight the needy kids and there is no relief for those kids like there is with the lunch program.

Students really don't take lunch seriously. But not be able to participate in Friday freeze (once-a-month ice cream parties)? Oh no, those kids won't stand out. Don't have money for class parties that is collected by class mom through her elementary age student? Gee, no one will ever know that. Not have $110 to go on the field trip to the nature preserve that is an hour's drive, so you have to stay at the school and sit in the library all day and do research on the types of animals and plants at the preserve? No, not missing out on a thing there.

Trust me, kids have their priorities. These other things pop up regularly and those are the things they will notice if others don't have money for.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 7:51:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: InfoMan

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
And yeah, we need lunch money reminders, because with divorced households, and the kids not buying lunch at school every day (sometimes they bring their own) it's sometimes not clear how much money they still have left over in their accounts. If their mother has them eat school lunches for a while without putting money in, sometimes we're much lower than we thought.


In this instance - being stamped serves as a 'physical proof' that the divorce is their fault. They become a message which spurs an argument about how one parent didn't put money into the account. And actually is logically sound if the child comes to the conclusion that the argument and what even created the argument is their fault... Because if the child didn't eat - then obviously the parents wouldn't have to fight over who has to pay for their lunch.

The simple stamp which a parent might view as a convenient reminder, in this situation, can reinforce depressive and suicidal thoughts legitimizing the idea that things would be better if they where not there...


You might think this is hypothetical, but the Divorce Rate in the US is still between 40-50%
There are thousands of children which deal with that kind of life daily and blame themselves constantly...


Physical proof that the divorce is their fault? How on earth did you reach that absurdity? What the hell does the divorce have to do with the lunch money?
The kids are aware of the reasons their parents divorced. They agree with them.

Who said anything about fighting over it? If the kids need lunch money, we pay the lunch money. There's no argument over it.

And even IF there was an argument over it, then it would be held out of earshot of the kids. They're not involved in parental disputes.

And if divorced parents ARE going to argue over missing lunch money, do you think they're really going to do it any less when the school sends a note instead of a stamp? So your suggestion basically is that when parents are divorced, the school is not allowed to send any reminders for lunch money, in any form, or else the parents might fight over it, and the child might think it's their fault?

You haven't sufficiently demonstrated that stamp vs another form of communication makes any difference to the child whatsoever.




DommeinRochester -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:07:44 PM)

You can digress all you want.. But I hate to break it to you, but what I have stated does happen. Not everyone has computers and phones. As for what happens if there is an accident?
There is sometimes an emergency back-up number, a grandparent, a neighbor...

Whether you want to believe it, there are families out there that are really struggling. Things we take for granted are next to impossible for some families.

So why not mail something? Did you know that people sometimes move? I know crazy huh? They sometimes have to move during the school year.

A little something called eviction. Do you really think in some situations getting that change of address form done is a top priority?





UllrsIshtar -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:08:24 PM)

~FR~

I just asked both kids what they thought about the school -hypothetically- using stamps on their arms to serve as reminders for lunch money, or other things.

My youngest (boy 9) enthusiastically said: "Oh that's an awesome idea! That way I couldn't lose the notes. And then you could see if I really washed myself well in the shower at night. You should totally talk to [my teacher] about that."
(In regards the shower comment, what can I say... he's a little... weird sometimes... but in a good way. [;)])

My oldest (girl 10) said: "I think it's a good idea, and maybe they'd let us pick the color of ink we wanted. Or do different colors of ink for different things."
(She's more concerned about 'accessorizing' her ink to her outfit than anything else.)

When I asked them if they thought they'd be bullied over it, they both said no, kinda quizzical (in this tone of: why on earth would you get bullied over THAT?).
When I pointed out that the bullies might think that their parents were too poor to pay for lunch money, and bully over that, my oldest said very pointedly: "Bullies always find something to pick on when they want it. There's poor kids in school that don't have [nice stuff] but are on the bullies team, and they don't get picked on, and there's other kids who have [nice stuff] and they get made fun of all the time, because the bullies say their stuff is ugly. If they want to pick on you, they'll find something to pick on."

I find it noticeable how people with school aged kids don't seem to have an issue with this concept, while it's childless people freaking out about how it's going to 'traumatize the poor kids'.

Newsflash people: my 10 year old is right... if bullies want to pick on a kid, they're going to. Stamps, or not having stamps, is not going to make ANY difference on that whatsoever. The only thing that can be done about it is educating the kids properly. Avoiding the issue does nothing, because the bullies will just move on to another topic.




tamaka -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:10:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

You can digress all you want.. But I hate to break it to you, but what I have stated does happen. Not everyone has computers and phones. As for what happens if there is an accident?
There is sometimes an emergency back-up number, a grandparent, a neighbor...

Whether you want to believe it, there are families out there that are really struggling. Things we take for granted are next to impossible for some families.

So why not mail something? Did you know that people sometimes move? I know crazy huh? They sometimes have to move during the school year.

A little something called eviction. Do you really think in some situations getting that change of address form done is a top priority?





Anyone struggling that much would be getting free lunch.




DommeinRochester -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:13:53 PM)

Right, because every single child goes home to a 3 bedroom house with a fenced in yard. Mommy greats them every day at the bus stop
with fresh brownies and a glass of cold milk. Once snack is done, she says "ok Johnny, let's look at your blue folder".

All sarcasm aside, do you really believe in a family where they aren't paying the lunch bill a simple blue folder will fix that? Seriously? That's it.

Just get them a blue folder.




tamaka -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:23:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

Right, because every single child goes home to a 3 bedroom house with a fenced in yard. Mommy greats them every day at the bus stop
with fresh brownies and a glass of cold milk. Once snack is done, she says "ok Johnny, let's look at your blue folder".

All sarcasm aside, do you really believe in a family where they aren't paying the lunch bill a simple blue folder will fix that? Seriously? That's it.

Just get them a blue folder.


You asked how the school can communicate with the parents if they don't have a computer, cellphone, phone, etc. A simple blue folder would provide a solution to that. If the parents are unfit then DSS should be involved.




DommeinRochester -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:41:30 PM)

Wow so not having a computer, internet etc makes them unfit parents and DSS should be called so their children can be taken away?




tamaka -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 8:44:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

Wow so not having a computer, internet etc makes them unfit parents and DSS should be called so their children can be taken away?


No, but not being able to handle asking to see their blue folder does. And not handling basic parental responsibilities does too.




tamaka -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 9:21:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

~FR~

I just asked both kids what they thought about the school -hypothetically- using stamps on their arms to serve as reminders for lunch money, or other things.

My youngest (boy 9) enthusiastically said: "Oh that's an awesome idea! That way I couldn't lose the notes. And then you could see if I really washed myself well in the shower at night. You should totally talk to [my teacher] about that."
(In regards the shower comment, what can I say... he's a little... weird sometimes... but in a good way. [;)])

My oldest (girl 10) said: "I think it's a good idea, and maybe they'd let us pick the color of ink we wanted. Or do different colors of ink for different things."
(She's more concerned about 'accessorizing' her ink to her outfit than anything else.)

When I asked them if they thought they'd be bullied over it, they both said no, kinda quizzical (in this tone of: why on earth would you get bullied over THAT?).
When I pointed out that the bullies might think that their parents were too poor to pay for lunch money, and bully over that, my oldest said very pointedly: "Bullies always find something to pick on when they want it. There's poor kids in school that don't have [nice stuff] but are on the bullies team, and they don't get picked on, and there's other kids who have [nice stuff] and they get made fun of all the time, because the bullies say their stuff is ugly. If they want to pick on you, they'll find something to pick on."

I find it noticeable how people with school aged kids don't seem to have an issue with this concept, while it's childless people freaking out about how it's going to 'traumatize the poor kids'.

Newsflash people: my 10 year old is right... if bullies want to pick on a kid, they're going to. Stamps, or not having stamps, is not going to make ANY difference on that whatsoever. The only thing that can be done about it is educating the kids properly. Avoiding the issue does nothing, because the bullies will just move on to another topic.


You're missing the point. The school is not entitled to physically label a child with anything first of all. That is an invasion.

And moreso, not something that is demeaning or derogatory, such as this represents.




Greta75 -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 10:06:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

~FR~

I just asked both kids what they thought about the school -hypothetically- using stamps on their arms to serve as reminders for lunch money, or other things.



It's the way you phrase it, you phrase it nicely. You didn't tell them it would say, "I owe Lunch Money" stamped on them for the whole school to see.

You tell them it's just a reminder note.




Greta75 -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 10:09:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

You can digress all you want.. But I hate to break it to you, but what I have stated does happen. Not everyone has computers and phones. As for what happens if there is an accident?
There is sometimes an emergency back-up number, a grandparent, a neighbor...


Perfect! So that's precisely how you will reach the parent to get the damn lunch money! Don't humiliate the child!

And you do realise that quite a few Americans here claim it's not the poor people who have this problem, as all poor people get free lunch at school anyway.

So apparently, this is for the kids with parents WITH money but are tardy on payments. So no excuse about not having a phone.






Greta75 -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 10:14:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.

When a child forgets a pencil or a book. They don't get stamp on their bodies, 'I forget my pencil", or "I forget my book". And have it announced to the world!

There lies the difference. No public humiliation for them.




Awareness -> RE: Lunch Shaming (5/9/2017 11:32:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: InfoMan

In this instance - being stamped serves as a 'physical proof' that the divorce is their fault. They become a message which spurs an argument about how one parent didn't put money into the account. And actually is logically sound if the child comes to the conclusion that the argument and what even created the argument is their fault... Because if the child didn't eat - then obviously the parents wouldn't have to fight over who has to pay for their lunch.

The simple stamp which a parent might view as a convenient reminder, in this situation, can reinforce depressive and suicidal thoughts legitimizing the idea that things would be better if they where not there...


You might think this is hypothetical, but the Divorce Rate in the US is still between 40-50%
There are thousands of children which deal with that kind of life daily and blame themselves constantly...
Dude, you're about 15 kinds of stupid. This is the thought process of a neurotic adult, not a child. If the kid's parents argue over not paying the fucking school lunch bill, the fucking kid has bigger fucking problems.

Christ, spare us from amateur psychiatrists.




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