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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 1:46:21 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEd0ehNinbc

Patriarchy blaming is one of my pet hates with feminism. It's used to be blamed for nearly everything without any evidence supporting it. Patriarchy theory is based on feminist fantasy.


Hey rm, it's just the same old regurgitated stuff, thread after thread.

Either it's women being nasty to you, the straw-man you have made feminism into or the Muslims.

Change the record.

If you don't believe in diversity in society, at least you could try diversity in your offerings on the Boards.

Or you could just, have a look in the mirror, stop blaming everybody else and get on with your life. Radical stuff I know.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 3:58:41 AM   
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Thanks for sharing this video with 734 views, RM... did you make it?

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 5:23:44 AM   
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before that, idiot


Ok... let's just find a convenient piece of history that you want to consider and ignore everything else that happened. You're the idiot.

You seem to be the one that is focussing on slavery and the blacks, not any of the history from outside the US, or before or after history from around the world.
English history, Italian French History, African History, American history
Patriarchy covers so very much
Religion, Any of the big three are patriarchal
Have been for centuries.
Even the governement of your country right now, there are no women sorting out what is happening with healthcare essentials for insurance purposes.
Grow up you ignorant dumb bitch


What should it matter how many men vs women there are if everyone is THE SAME. EQUAL. NOT DIFFERENT. Calling me names because you are a fool doesn't change your reality.



Patriarchy is the subject. Im not the one using race. its gender rule.
Im not interested in female supremacy, Im into diversity, Im not into patriarchy.

And you are whinging about insults?
Pot calling the kettle grimy arse, hypocritical and laughable.





Patriarchy is the world being ruled by men. Feminism says that women are the equals of men. The idea is that men and women are not different but the same. If women are the same as men then they will not be different outcomes regardless of whether women are involved or not.


That you and other misogynist believers in patriarchy, whinge about equality and difference, for anyone, is irony at its finest. Not to mention warped thinking.
When there are laws regarding male reproduction, I will buy it.




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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 5:29:05 AM   
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I think the problem goes deeper than this. Radical feminism's social constructionist stance is anti-scientific garbage. But even just taking the statement at face value, any view that dismisses the bearing and nurturing of the young as not an important and influential role in society is too divorced from reality to merit debate.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 7:21:13 AM   
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I think the problem goes deeper than this. Radical feminism's social constructionist stance is anti-scientific garbage. But even just taking the statement at face value, any view that dismisses the bearing and nurturing of the young as not an important and influential role in society is too divorced from reality to merit debate.

K.





Please don't encourage this strawman garbage.

Does anyone who isn't totally ignorant actually think that the majority of feminists think that 'bearing and nurturing of the young' is not important or 'influential'? Or that whatever 'radicals' actually do think this are in any way significant enough to be worthy of discussion? Oh, hey... I think the KKK is bad, how about you?

Feminism isn't about women resisting cooking, cleaning or being traditional mothers, it's resisting the absurd notion that this is their natural state and anything outside of it is perverse.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 7:38:57 AM   
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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 7:41:42 AM   
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Any view that dismisses the bearing and nurturing of the young as not an important and influential role in society is too divorced from reality to merit debate.


Exactly... so why would anyone bring it up?

RM's whole mixed up view of feminism depends on equating the radicals with the majority... it allows him to dismiss everything that is valid about it. Of course, he doesn't understand that he is even doing this, and won't admit it to himself because he has invested so much time in these pathetic feminist-hate/men are persecuted threads.


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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 9:08:08 AM   
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Any view that dismisses the bearing and nurturing of the young as not an important and influential role in society is too divorced from reality to merit debate.


Exactly... so why would anyone bring it up?

RM's whole mixed up view of feminism depends on equating the radicals with the majority... it allows him to dismiss everything that is valid about it. Of course, he doesn't understand that he is even doing this, and won't admit it to himself because he has invested so much time in these pathetic feminist-hate/men are persecuted threads.



Yes. And Kirata is in much the same boat.

His statement: "Radical feminism's social constructionist stance is anti-scientific garbage" is so wrong on so many levels that it is difficult to know where to start correcting it.

Firstly most streams of feminism are invested in variations of social constructivist analyses. It is not a property of "radical feminists" at all. In fact, radical feminists have less invested in social constructivist approaches than other streams of feminism, with some radical feminist thinkers even flirting with 'essentialism' (the opposite of social constructivism) Only a person who is unfamiliar with the subject material would make a statement like Kirata's.

Nor are social constructivist approaches "anti-scientific garbage". It is impossible to have a genuine science of human behaviour - the problem of objectivity is insurmountable. The garbage in this discussion are the claims that emanate from sources that claim to be 'scientific' - this material, which Kirata apparently finds persuasive, must be and can only be fraudulent. If there is no genuine science of human behaviour, then alternative approaches cannot be said to be 'anti-scientific'. Again Kirata's statement betrays all the hallmarks of a claim made by someone who is unfamiliar with the subject matter.

Or to put that is a slightly more familiar form, just like RM's tedious nonsense, Kirata's statements about feminism are the statements of someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.


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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 9:34:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

before that, idiot


Ok... let's just find a convenient piece of history that you want to consider and ignore everything else that happened. You're the idiot.

You seem to be the one that is focussing on slavery and the blacks, not any of the history from outside the US, or before or after history from around the world.
English history, Italian French History, African History, American history
Patriarchy covers so very much
Religion, Any of the big three are patriarchal
Have been for centuries.
Even the governement of your country right now, there are no women sorting out what is happening with healthcare essentials for insurance purposes.
Grow up you ignorant dumb bitch


What should it matter how many men vs women there are if everyone is THE SAME. EQUAL. NOT DIFFERENT. Calling me names because you are a fool doesn't change your reality.



Patriarchy is the subject. Im not the one using race. its gender rule.
Im not interested in female supremacy, Im into diversity, Im not into patriarchy.

And you are whinging about insults?
Pot calling the kettle grimy arse, hypocritical and laughable.





Patriarchy is the world being ruled by men. Feminism says that women are the equals of men. The idea is that men and women are not different but the same. If women are the same as men then they will not be different outcomes regardless of whether women are involved or not.


That you and other misogynist believers in patriarchy, whinge about equality and difference, for anyone, is irony at its finest. Not to mention warped thinking.
When there are laws regarding male reproduction, I will buy it.





In other words... you have no argument for that.
I am not a misogynist, but i believe there is nothing better about women than men. I am a true Equality thinker. Women are capable of just as much crap as men are.

There should be laws about male reproduction... you're absolutely right. Males should be able to protect their future offspring from a murderous woman who wants to kill it. As a woman, i'd definitely vote for that.


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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 9:42:07 AM   
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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 9:50:06 AM   
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When you want to know what i mean when i say you are nothing but a fool, here's another example of it.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 11:38:58 AM   
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I think tasocka misspelled "sockpuppet troll".

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 11:45:11 AM   
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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 11:46:41 AM   
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When you want to know what i mean when i say you are nothing but a fool, here's another example of it.


squeakssssss you are priceless lolololololololololol


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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 11:59:08 AM   
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I still havent gotten over that, its priceless, I had tears, and shamefully... hiccups.


As sockuppet trolls go, tasocka does have their amusing moments. Not amusing enough to outweigh all of their hateful stupidity though, so they'll stay hidden with the rest of the mouth-breathing reprobates.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 12:05:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's amusing watching the feminists in here fumbling over the place while telling others they are wrong. Yet there is no scientific evidence, no facts, that patriarchy is to blame for the woes of others. They just keep regurgitating the same assumption based arguement that patriarchy is to blame for all the woes.

Feminism is based on faith. Kind of like religion. There is no proof that god exist but you have to believe from your own feelings. Like patriarchy, there is no fact, no evidence, that it's to blame for whatever reason. It's assumed that its at fault by poor sensitive feminist feelings.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 12:12:06 PM   
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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 12:41:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh lucy, the only ignorance in here is coming from the stupid fucking feminists who keep trying to push their faith and assumotion based argument on patriarchy to others.

It's amusingly ironic that feminists call others misogynists for not believing in an assumption that is utterly sexist and hateful against men.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 1:01:32 PM   
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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 1:16:38 PM   
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It's amusingly ironic that feminists call others misogynists for not believing in an assumption that is utterly sexist and hateful against men.

That you find equality to be "hateful against men" tells everyone here everything they need to know about you.


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