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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 1:21:31 PM   
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its a scary world for you isnt it.


More than anything, it seems scary to feminists as they blame it on everything that is bad. In fact, patriarchy seems to be a phobia to feminists. They nearly shit their pants over it as they are so hysterial on the said topic.

As for me, it's a word that amuses me as it's usually used by stupid and delusional people as a scapegoat for their failings in life.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 1:23:21 PM   
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It's amusingly ironic that feminists call others misogynists for not believing in an assumption that is utterly sexist and hateful against men.

That you find equality to be "hateful against men" tells everyone here everything they need to know about you.



How exactly is it going against equality to not agree with patriarchy being used as a scapegoat for all the woes in the world?

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 1:24:24 PM   
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I hate hatred and idiots you delusional stupid twat

let me ask are there any feminists on this site who hate me, I wicked the magnificence and his 3 cats?

I hate you respectman because you are a bigoted idiot - Well i dont actually hate you i pity you and your bucket of diarrhoea you insist on smearing on here 100%

You are a slattery mess

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 2:27:03 PM   
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It's amazing that if men blame women for anything, just one thing, they're misogynists. Women can blame men for absolutely everything and they're not misandrists.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 2:57:25 PM   
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Have a good cry Nicky, you'll feel better. Well, probably not, but it'll make everyone here smile at least :)

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 5:15:44 PM   
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You have it all wrong stef, as always. I'm not the one claiming to be a victim, I'm the one laughing at others who are claiming to be a victim

In this case, patriarchy stole my ice cream wahhhhhh. That is the definition of crying. I'm the one pointing and laughing at the ones who are crying over something that doesn't exist.

It's beyond pathetic to claim that a patriarchy boogeyman is the fault for your failings in life. People who have this mentality or believe others who claim this deserve to be laughed at and mocked.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 5:34:59 PM   
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You're the only one here crying, Nicky. Every thread you start is a whingefest about something.

Hard to "respect" a "man" who whines as much as you. Perhaps that's why you find none here.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 5:52:02 PM   
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I hate hatred and idiots...

I guess that must be tough, but at least your cats like you.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 8:14:26 PM   
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You're the only one here crying, Nicky. Every thread you start is a whingefest about something.

Hard to "respect" a "man" who whines as much as you. Perhaps that's why you find none here.


You really don't think much, don't you?

So tell me stef, what is the whole purpose of feminism again? To complain about men and how bad women have it? Can you show me one single aspect of feminism that isn't about complaining? Just one?

Everything to do with feminism is about complaining. Every second, every minute, everything said or done from feminism is about complaining.

So to sit here and criticse men for complaining in opposition to feminism makes you a deranged hypocrite, correct?

Not to mention, you're calling it 'crying' when I complain about feminists complaining. So therefore, as you are complaining about me complaining, that must mean you are crying too.

If a man is undeserving of respect if he complains lots, what is the standard for feminists?

Oh wait, double standards. Laughs

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/16/2017 8:53:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: respectmen

You really don't think much, don't you?

Of you, no, not so much.

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So tell me stef, what is the whole purpose of feminism again? To complain about men and how bad women have it? Can you show me one single aspect of feminism that isn't about complaining? Just one?

To everyone but you and other whiny babymen, the goal of feminism is equality. This hasn't changed from the first time you cried about it and won't ever change.

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Everything to do with feminism is about complaining. Every second, every minute, everything said or done from feminism is about complaining.

Only on Planet Nicky.

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So to sit here and criticse men for complaining in opposition to feminism makes you a deranged hypocrite, correct?

I'm not criticizing men, I'm calling you a whiny babyman.

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Not to mention, you're calling it 'crying' when I complain about feminists complaining. So therefore, as you are complaining about me complaining, that must mean you are crying too.

Calling you out occasionally is not crying, it's pointing out your idiocy. Unlike you, I'm not operating under the assumption that it will ever change anything, because you'll almost certainly always be an idiot.

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If a man is undeserving of respect if he complains lots, what is the standard for feminists?

How many feminists here spend their days here starting thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread whining? None.

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Oh wait, double standards. Laughs

Oh wait, you're a double idiot. Laughs indeed.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 3:36:26 AM   
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So tell me stef, what is the whole purpose of feminism again? To complain about men and how bad women have it? Can you show me one single aspect of feminism that isn't about complaining? Just one?

Everything to do with feminism is about complaining. Every second, every minute, everything said or done from feminism is about complaining.

This demonstrably absurd claim tells us all how little you either know or understand feminism.
Feminism as a political movement seeking to effect positive changes has been one of the most successful political movements of our times. As a direct result of feminism and feminist activism:
*Hundred of millions of women across the planet have had their lives materially changed for the better;
* There are more women in careers of their choice than at any point in history;
* Women are more educated with more attending higher education than at any point in history:
* More women hold higher positions and more responsibility and better salaries than at any point in history;
* Women no longer are expected to retire from their careers/the workforce upon marriage;
* Women have more control over their reproductive lives and choices;
* Great progress has been made countering violence against women and children;
* Women enjoy more rights, more influence and are decision-makers in greater numbers than at any point in history.

These are just a few of the many changes feminism has brought about. I could go on listing the positive changes that feminism and feminists have brought about but the picture is already very clear. Your refusal to recognise these achievements ensures that all your complaints about feminism achieve is that more and more people laugh at your ridiculous fact free whinges. It's patently clear that you are the one who is perennially complaining about feminism which you neither know nor understand.

Against feminism's unparalleled record of positive change and achievement, your complaints about feminism and feminists are the uninformed petty and pathetic whines of someone who was absent when they were handing out intelligence and capability, the whines of an irrelevant, sad, pathetic, obsessed babyman-loser.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 10:55:18 AM   
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So to sit here and criticse men for complaining in opposition to feminism makes you a deranged hypocrite, correct?


No, it doesn't make you a hypocrite, Nick. I laid it out for you in detail in your other thread but you were unable to come up with a reasonable reply.

Your antifeminism bitching and whining makes you a useful tool for the male power elite, in return for which you get a few crumbs of useless status that cannot be spent at the store.


As long as working class, hard hats have someone to consider inferior they will do the bloody, bullying work of the Elite classes. That's how your assault on feminism ties in with the assault of white dirt farmers against black men back in the middle of the 19th Century. I hope I have made the point clear to you. If not, feel free to ask any questions you wish. But I think your anti-feminism is right out of the racist playbook. The puppets will only protect the Elites if they think they have some skin in the game; they will only believe they have some skin in the game if there is an inferior class.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_5032009/mpage_2/tm.htm#5032708

You are a weak kneed puppet, Nick. You bend your knees to men who are more powerful than you. Ass-kissing to white male privilege in exchange for a little bit of status. You would be nothing without an imagined inferior class of people to point to.

Puppet, nicky.





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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 12:25:25 PM   
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To everyone but you and other whiny babymen, the goal of feminism is equality. This hasn't changed from the first time you cried about it and won't ever change.


If that was the truth, feminists wouldn't have a problem with men having equal freedom of speech to male issues. As it appears, they get the Red Pill film banned and they protest against nearly every men's rights conference. Equality comes with equal freedom of speech. Feminists want women to have more freedom of speech than men. That isn't equality.

If feminists were truly about equality, they would equally support men with being a victim of DV.

If feminists were truly about equality, they would equally support men with being a victim of rape.

If feminists were truly about equality, they would have a problem with males getting neglected in schools. If it was the other way around, feminists would be all over it. So feminists can't be about equality when they react different to a problem depending which gender is facing it.

If feminists were truly about equality, they would also protest against issues that only men face instead of only adding men in the equation when women are suffering too while making women the center of the stage of it all.

If feminists were truly about equality they would protest against female privileges too and not just male privileges.

I can go on and on but this will do.

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I'm not criticizing men, I'm calling you a whiny babyman.


You're lying. You call every male a babyman when they either complain about male issues or feminism. You call men in the videos I link that exact name.

It's funny how no one is ever a whiny babywoman. Because, double standards. Laughs

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Calling you out occasionally is not crying, it's pointing out your idiocy. Unlike you, I'm not operating under the assumption that it will ever change anything, because you'll almost certainly always be an idiot.


No steffy, you're trying to imply yet another double standard. If I'm crying or a whiny babyman or whatever else for complaining about feminists complaining, that mean's the same type of standards apply to you if you complain about me complaining.

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How many feminists here spend their days here starting thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread whining? None.


Exactly, hardly in this space on the internet. It's not such a popular topic here.

Have you visited the fetlife feminist groups lately? The same posters, thread after thread, post after post, day after day, is complain, complain, complain. So same standards to them that you apply to me?

Have you visited feminist forums/websites lately other than what's on fetlife? The same posters, thread after thread, post after post, day after day, is complain, complain, complain. So same standards to them that you apply to me?

What about everyone who is a member of a feminist organisation? Does any such organisation just exist for the fun of it while they remain silent? Or is an organisation the purpose of making constant noise? So the leaders of feminist organisations and the members who back up the leaders...same standards to them that you apply to me?

The feminists journalists out there and/or the ones that create popular feminist literature, and the public speakers etc. Such feminists like Anita Sarkeesian. Such feminists make careers out of complaining and are usually respected by most feminists. So same standards to them that you apply to me?

What about feminists who attend women's studies classes? What about the teachers of the women studies classes? So same standards to them that you apply to me?

This is the major problem, you will apply a double standard to all because you're an intellectually dishonest little cunt.

tweakabelle

The discussion between me and steffy had nothing to do with what achievements feminism may or may not have done. That said, I think feminism takes credit for changes when really it has more to do with other factors such as technological advancements.

Your post did not disprove my point at all that feminism is pretty much all about complaining.

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Against feminism's unparalleled record of positive change and achievement


Just one point that totally destroys this claim. So females taking over in lower and higher education while males fall way behind with universities hostile against men for being men, yet this is what you consider positive change? lol. Achievement yes, it's achievement to make female supremacy reign in the education system.

vincentML

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No, it doesn't make you a hypocrite, Nick. I laid it out for you in detail in your other thread but you were unable to come up with a reasonable reply.


I stopped replying because your replies were unreasonable. They made no connection to my questions and argument. For example, you were trying to connect the status of white men in 2017 to white farmers generations ago that lynched blacks.

I tried asking you what the hell has white farmers lynching blacks generations ago, before most white men at this day were even born, has anything to do with white men in 2017. You rambled on with more nonsense that also made no connection to my questions so I just gave up.

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Your antifeminism bitching and whining makes you a useful tool for the male power elite, in return for which you get a few crumbs of useless status that cannot be spent at the store.


Last time I checked, the male elite, the governments, are usually pro feminist. For example, besides feminists, don't politicians also push for something to be done about the mythical wage gap? Why is it that governments give less health funding to men compared to women? Why is it that the governments give women more support compared to men for homelessness? Why is it that the governments give women more support and facilities for DV?

Is that what you call anti feminist? ROFL. Silly little man.

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As long as working class, hard hats have someone to consider inferior they will do the bloody, bullying work of the Elite classes. That's how your assault on feminism ties in with the assault of white dirt farmers against black men back in the middle of the 19th Century.


Still makes absolutely no sense as I have absolutely no connection the elitists or white dirt farmers. I have never met these people and I have never received anything from them. Not to mention, I wasn't even alive when most of the people you mentioned existed.

You really seem to have a serious mental illness to keep seeing a connection to things that aren't really there.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 4:20:57 PM   
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As long as working class, hard hats have someone to consider inferior they will do the bloody, bullying work of the Elite classes. That's how your assault on feminism ties in with the assault of white dirt farmers against black men back in the middle of the 19th Century.


Still makes absolutely no sense as I have absolutely no connection the elitists or white dirt farmers. I have never met these people and I have never received anything from them. Not to mention, I wasn't even alive when most of the people you mentioned existed.


You seem to be the only one unaware that there are themes in history that are repeated again and again. It makes no difference in what part of history you lived if you are caught up in a repeating drama. Vladimir Lenin would have loved how easily you are used as a useful tool. You give your life for the Authority Structure in exchange for some little bit of useless status you get from denigrating women. Just as white, non-slave holding farmers fought for the south in 1861 because they were convinced blacks were an inferior class, RM will suck boss-man cock as long as he is convinced women are an inferior class. History repeats itself with such nearly identical dramas. Your lack of awareness makes you look pitiful.

You're just a tool, fool . . . a whiny, sissy tool.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 5:10:39 PM   
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white, non-slave holding farmers fought for the south in 1861 because they were convinced blacks were an inferior class

You are in no position to issue sweeping claims about what was in the hearts and minds of the men who fought that war.

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RM will suck boss-man cock as long as he is convinced women are an inferior class.

Regardless of what respectmen views as feminism's excesses, I don't recall ever seeing him denigrate women as a class.

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You're just a tool, fool . . . a whiny, sissy tool.

Maybe if you ask him nicely, he'll give you your goat back.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 5:17:29 PM   
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It is impossible to have a genuine science of human behaviour - the problem of objectivity is insurmountable. The garbage in this discussion are the claims that emanate from sources that claim to be 'scientific' - this material, which Kirata apparently finds persuasive, must be and can only be fraudulent. If there is no genuine science of human behaviour, then alternative approaches cannot be said to be 'anti-scientific'. Again Kirata's statement betrays all the hallmarks of a claim made by someone who is unfamiliar with the subject matter.

Yeah, nothing anti-scientific about that.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 5:33:08 PM   
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Any view that dismisses the bearing and nurturing of the young as not an important and influential role in society is too divorced from reality to merit debate.

Exactly... so why would anyone bring it up?

I didn't bring it up, you illiterate pest. I was responding to a claim in an article that respectmen posted.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 7:44:26 PM   
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white, non-slave holding farmers fought for the south in 1861 because they were convinced blacks were an inferior class

You are in no position to issue sweeping claims about what was in the hearts and minds of the men who fought that war.

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RM will suck boss-man cock as long as he is convinced women are an inferior class.

Regardless of what respectmen views as feminism's excesses, I don't recall ever seeing him denigrate women as a class.

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You're just a tool, fool . . . a whiny, sissy tool.

Maybe if you ask him nicely, he'll give you your goat back.

K.


Oh no, he can keep the goat. He seems to be having trouble in his relationships with women.

The question of the role and motivation of dirt poor southern non-slave owners is an interesting historical issue. I can join the speculation, if I wish, even if it ruffles your feathers.

As Harris saw things, “Our fathers made this a government for the white man, rejecting the negro as an ignorant, inferior, barbarian race, incapable of self-government, and not, therefore, entitled to be associated with the white man upon terms of civil, political, or social equality.” Lincoln and his followers, he stated, aimed to “overturn and strike down this great feature of our union and to substitute in its stead their new theory of the universal equality of the black and white races.” For Harris, the choice was clear. Mississippi would “rather see the last of her race, men, women, and children, immolated in one common funeral pyre than see them subjugated to the degradation of civil, political and social equality with the negro race.”
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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 8:17:11 PM   
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As long as working class, hard hats have someone to consider inferior they will do the bloody, bullying work of the Elite classes. That's how your assault on feminism ties in with the assault of white dirt farmers against black men back in the middle of the 19th Century.


Still makes absolutely no sense as I have absolutely no connection the elitists or white dirt farmers. I have never met these people and I have never received anything from them. Not to mention, I wasn't even alive when most of the people you mentioned existed.


You seem to be the only one unaware that there are themes in history that are repeated again and again. It makes no difference in what part of history you lived if you are caught up in a repeating drama. Vladimir Lenin would have loved how easily you are used as a useful tool. You give your life for the Authority Structure in exchange for some little bit of useless status you get from denigrating women. Just as white, non-slave holding farmers fought for the south in 1861 because they were convinced blacks were an inferior class, RM will suck boss-man cock as long as he is convinced women are an inferior class. History repeats itself with such nearly identical dramas. Your lack of awareness makes you look pitiful.

You're just a tool, fool . . . a whiny, sissy tool.


If the themes in history are repeated in the present, feel free to point out where black slavery is existing in places like Australia and America in year 2017.

If you can't, this is showing that you are speaking absolute nonsense. Besides the KKK which is a very small minority of white people, who else is wanting to enslave blacks and lynch blacks?

Where is it socially acceptable besides in circles of the KKK to think this way?

See how easy it is to rip your little feeble argument apart. Hardly anyone in today's western society wants to enslave or lynch blacks you delusional moron.

How in the world is it exactly giving my life up to an authority structure to simply not believe in politically correct bullshit in regards of women and minorities?

I don't have my opinions because some authority tells me, I have my opinions because I choose to. As I mentioned in my earlier post, the elite are politically correct. Their opinions oppose mine.

More than anything, you are following the elite. The governments, the universities, the mainstream media is all dominated by leftism/ political correctness.

So get your stupid little head out of your ass and wake up and smell the coffee.

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RE: The Everyday Hatred of Men - Part One, Patriarchy - 5/17/2017 9:24:46 PM   
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If the themes in history are repeated in the present, feel free to point out where black slavery is existing in places like Australia and America in year 2017.

Indigenous people of color are still treated like shit in both Australia and America today. Haven't you heard?

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See how easy it is to rip your little feeble argument apart. Hardly anyone in today's western society wants to enslave or lynch blacks you delusional moron.


Still, unarmed black men are being murdered by law officers.

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More than anything, you are following the elite. The governments, the universities, the mainstream media is all dominated by leftism/ political correctness.


I am referring to the moneyed elite, the people who control wealth and power in industrial countries. The mainstream media are all pretty much owned by corporations.

I am happy to see you are starting to think.


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