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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:42:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		and that is a wonderful and fully hallucinatory thought, people are starving here and there and everywhere, and nobody is stopping the charities from fixing it, the problem lies in the fact that across the arc of humanity, people are not charitable for this reason or that reason.

Charity if failing epically.


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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:47:44 PM   
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If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.


OK, it took me long enough, but I think I finally have all I need now: you're a troll.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:51:17 PM   
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If charity worked properly, there wouldnt have been a need for government intervention.
FACT
FACT Charities cannot handle the number of people needing help.
fuck the ignorance is strong of your own problems.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-hunger-in-america/458757/
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/americas-dirty-little-secret-42-million-are-suffering-from-hunger.html

Malnutrition deaths per 100,000 in the us IS 0.58(about 3 thousand deaths from malnutrition.) a year
Canada is 0.30
The UK is 0.10


Of course lazy people deserve to starve, even when they are working.
but you dont want a raise in the minimum wage, its gonna go up.
but hey, Trump is just slashing the social net.
funding for meals on wheels, cuts in kids good programs, old age pensioners, disablitiy and slashing health programs.
But the righ will get millions in tax breaks, where re the priorities?


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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:53:55 PM   
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If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.


OK, it took me long enough, but I think I finally have all I need now: you're a troll.


No little peon, i'm a realist.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-16.html

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:54:20 PM   
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ALERT ALERT ALERT deflection in post 3, troll needs fumigating.



Yeah - translation; someone disagrees with you.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:54:35 PM   
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the short answer is: "if a man will not work, he shall not eat"

if he cannot work, then the question is who's responsible to help feed him.

some will say the government.

others will say the man's family, friends, the church and the local charities and lastly, LOCAL government.

the latter is far more successful and ultimately, more humanizing.





Speaking of charities, some while ago I had a charity appeal for starving children in my inbox. The usual terrible pictures of children looking really neglected. American children. Just astonishing. Too much irony in that email for my head to deal with.



If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.




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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:57:23 PM   
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I heard you know who eats people, starts with the fresh kids yet to bleeed

wolfs em up, between raping his wife Ivanaka


any 13 years kiddies on here anyway I am the president


And you call Bosco's post deflection Loosee ?

You obviously do not apply the same standards to fellow liberals.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 3:58:01 PM   
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the short answer is: "if a man will not work, he shall not eat"

if he cannot work, then the question is who's responsible to help feed him.

some will say the government.

others will say the man's family, friends, the church and the local charities and lastly, LOCAL government.

the latter is far more successful and ultimately, more humanizing.





Speaking of charities, some while ago I had a charity appeal for starving children in my inbox. The usual terrible pictures of children looking really neglected. American children. Just astonishing. Too much irony in that email for my head to deal with.



If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.





No lucy, i'm not being a cunt, i'm being real. Any family that qualifies for food stamps is getting them in this country. Unfortunately unless DSS gets involved, we can't micromanage what everyone does with them.

You fool.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:00:47 PM   
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So is every American entitled to eat and is food stamps something that ought to be that ultimate guarantor?”


No, sorry. Get a job.



I had an interesting convo with a woman last winter, she was at the register using food stamps talking with the clerk about how she will be well fed and freezing out on the street. Asked her if I could be nosy, what she meant. Well she lost her job, was too old and couldnt find another, the bank took her house, so the state gave her food stamps to keep her alive on one hand and on the other took her house forcing her out on the street so she dies anyway. Life it seems is not without irony. right to eat but no right to shelter.


More cruel irony is how if we guarantee everything as a "right" then eventually no one will have anything

Just as they are learning the hard way, in Venezuela.



well they should have thought of that before they started to dissolve the constitution. there is a difference between a right and privilege, what you are talking about is privileges not a personal iow reserved right right. people confuse that literally all the time because they do not know the difference. You have a state BOTH PARTIES that interferred with and created a unionized dependency system which forces everyone to pay someone else for services needed or not. Look at the woman who was forced to pay city sewage and water though she had no need for it, how about forced prescriptions to obtain medicines, so I dont hear people whining about the poor demanding food and shelter as a right when I see wall street the banks and gubmint working together to extort every dime they can from people so they can pull down 6 digit salaries. The poor deserve a peice of the pie since they woiuld not be poor if it were not for being legaly swindled in the first place.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:01:45 PM   
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Keep shoving your (negative) credibility deeper into that black hole dude. I've never ignored anyone but you are coming close. But then I want to see what the rest of the world sees.

You ARE aware that everyone in the world can see the idiocy that you post, right ? It is not like FL where you have to be a member to even see the posts.

You are to the point where you are making your country look bad. Is everyone like you there ? Childish, narcissistic and flippant about just about anything as well as a fucking liar ?

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:12:22 PM   
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and that is a wonderful and fully hallucinatory thought, people are starving here and there and everywhere, and nobody is stopping the charities from fixing it, the problem lies in the fact that across the arc of humanity, people are not charitable for this reason or that reason.

Charity if failing epically.



Some people are getting sick of them havig 12 fucking kids. Feed them and then you got 12. Then after a few years you got 144. The after a few more years you got 1,728. And so on.

OK that is an exaggeration but what the fuck are people who cannot feed themselves doing having kids ? Even ONE kid ? When TSHT in Greece due to government being gullible and the international banks sticking it up their asses (well they were also complicit but...) people took their own kids to orphanages because they could not feed them. But at least when they originally had them they could feed them.

I think males on welfare should be given an ample supply oof codoms, and if they are foud to be the sire of a child while receiving benefits they should go to jail. Females should be Norplanted. And the government should give free abortions, but the second one comes with a free tubal ligation so the government doesn't have to keep doing it.

They won't let you do private charity. A musician built cheap little houses for the homeless, not much more than a door and a roof and the government put a stop to it. You can buy a bunch of hobos McDonald's, but you can't make a nice pot of stew and pass out bowls of it, they will literally take you to jail. One is taxable and one is not.

I am too old to learn Russian, otherwise I would be outta here.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:13:10 PM   
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Have any of you been whipped brutally?


Keep shoving your (negative) credibility deeper into that black hole dude. I've never ignored anyone but you are coming close. But then I want to see what the rest of the world sees.

You ARE aware that everyone in the world can see the idiocy that you post, right ? It is not like FL where you have to be a member to even see the posts.

You are to the point where you are making your country look bad. Is everyone like you there ? Childish, narcissistic and flippant about just about anything as well as a fucking liar ?

T^T



There's a reason why they're the nanny state.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:14:07 PM   
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If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.


OK, it took me long enough, but I think I finally have all I need now: you're a troll.


No little peon, i'm a realist.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-16.html

Yeah, whatever.


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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:17:53 PM   
tamaka


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If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.


OK, it took me long enough, but I think I finally have all I need now: you're a troll.


No little peon, i'm a realist.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-16.html

Yeah, whatever.



Next time try not to be so disrespectful.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:22:04 PM   
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the short answer is: "if a man will not work, he shall not eat"

if he cannot work, then the question is who's responsible to help feed him.

some will say the government.

others will say the man's family, friends, the church and the local charities and lastly, LOCAL government.

the latter is far more successful and ultimately, more humanizing.





Speaking of charities, some while ago I had a charity appeal for starving children in my inbox. The usual terrible pictures of children looking really neglected. American children. Just astonishing. Too much irony in that email for my head to deal with.



If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.


Can you explain that to the children of deadbeat dads that have just disappeared? Or the families where the father . . . or mother . . . is deceased, and the remaining spouse can't get a job that pays enough for childcare AND food, AND shelter, AND medical . . . AND . . .?

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:27:49 PM   
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the short answer is: "if a man will not work, he shall not eat"

if he cannot work, then the question is who's responsible to help feed him.

some will say the government.

others will say the man's family, friends, the church and the local charities and lastly, LOCAL government.

the latter is far more successful and ultimately, more humanizing.





Speaking of charities, some while ago I had a charity appeal for starving children in my inbox. The usual terrible pictures of children looking really neglected. American children. Just astonishing. Too much irony in that email for my head to deal with.



If the children are starving in the US it's because parents are trading foodstamps for drugs.


Can you explain that to the children of deadbeat dads that have just disappeared? Or the families where the father . . . or mother . . . is deceased, and the remaining spouse can't get a job that pays enough for childcare AND food, AND shelter, AND medical . . . AND . . .?

If they qualify for help in this country, they get it. If the kids teachers suspect neglect, they report it, and dss gets involved. There is only so much that you can do.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:28:06 PM   
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Next time try not to be so disrespectful.


Yeah, whatever. Off to bed now, there's a good girl.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:36:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a question for tamaka.

Am I thinking incorrectly or did you say on another thread that you were, at one time, associated with the public school system?

The reason I'm asking is because I separate children from adults in this discussion. With school having just let out, that means a lot of those kids won't be getting the lunch (and perhaps breakfast) that the school provided. How do we address feeding children during the summer?


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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:52:27 PM   
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I have a question for tamaka.

Am I thinking incorrectly or did you say on another thread that you were, at one time, associated with the public school system?

The reason I'm asking is because I separate children from adults in this discussion. With school having just let out, that means a lot of those kids won't be getting the lunch (and perhaps breakfast) that the school provided. How do we address feeding children during the summer?



That's a good question. I'm really not sure. I know there are summer programs (like daycamps) that some of the kids participate in. But not every kid i'm sure. I don't teach anymore so i am not involved. But it is a good point.

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RE: Is every American is entitled to eat? - 5/28/2017 4:54:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not addressed to me, but.....there are summer feeding programs. The one my school system is involved with offers 2 of the 3 meals per day, which 2 is determined by the people or person picking them up or having them delivered.

They are distributed at schools, daycares and delivered directly to neighborhoods and individual homes too.

It doesn't feed all that need it during the break, but it is a start that grows every year.

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