Termyn8or
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It's not a gun problem, it's a ghetto problem.
Fix the ghettos.
Racist (sarcasm font off)
I am not with you on this. Being a USian I think, you are conflating the term "ghetto" with "Black neighborhood". In a very contemporary sense it might be but historically no. Plenty of White people lived in ghettos. In some places in Europe Jews actually built their own ghettos and though they were not fancy, they lived there in some degree of separation from the rest of the people, which is what most of them want. Yes, they are separatists but the world turns a blind eye to that yet villifies people like Randy Weaver who did nothing wrong.
There is a negative connotation to the word "ghetto" but have you really looked at what it means ? I haven't but I know that you have areas of this town known as little Italy, little Poland and whatever and those people live in ghetto like conditions. That doesn't mean they are animals and live with rats and roaches. And the population is dense there, as it "vas in de olt country". Most people in Europe don't need an hour to mow their lawn, or have their own swimming pool.. In some places just owning or renting your own free standing place rather than an apartment is considered luxury. As such, in a way we would have to consider a large portion of Europe to be a ghetto, even though some of those places are great places to live for many reasons.
Your taking the word ghetto into racism is highly out of line. (with reality) While we do agree on many things, we do not on this one, and I know there are a few others here and there.
The way people lived decades ago would be considered appalling by some today. Trade in your 5,000 square foot house with the two acre yard, swimming pool and barbecue pit, and of course the four car garage, and move your four kids, olady and her other into a three bedroom walk up on the third floor with no AC or place to park and see how you like it. But these people were used to these conditions.
I owned a TV shop for a few years. I sold trade ins like a used car lot. I got the cores, which I repaired and then sold, from places that sold new sets. Had a pretty good relationship with one of them and actually worked for them a bit at their bench. But it boiled down to me buying their trade ins, I was there like twice a month.
One day I was joking and said "Ghetto TV is here" and they said it would be a good idea to rename my shop that. I agree that the name would be catchy but refused because I thought it might put some people off, potential customers that is. I had a damn good product and never had to advertise, it was all word of mouth. And any set over like $200 was covered by as good a warranty as when it was sold new. It was 90 days on everything, a year on parts ad two years on the CRT. (picture tube, remember those ?) But we also had cheapo sets with less warranty, but just because they are not covered does not mean they will break down.
Why did I get out of it ? Well first of all I tried to diversify into other appliances and had the wrong partners, we were all a bit too young for this, but they were even younger. But the thing is that in the beginning we had to be open Saturday because people got their paycheck on Friday. When the rent was not due they wanted to buy a TV.
I watched the neighborhood decay, as Saturday was not the big day anymore it was a few days after the first of the month. Then came the disability Kings who would get a big settlement and come and buy the whole showroom, and then dole them out to their coolies. Then came Women trying to trade sex for TVs. I have paid for pussy but never to a pro.
But was it a ghetto ? Was it a ghetto before when most of the people were working and just living within their means ? Or did it become a ghetto when people were more on welfare or disability or something ?
And they were mostly White. It was west 90th and Madison Avenue, if you can find the demographic information you'll see it was still a White neighborhood until well after I left.
Definitions of words are getting fucked up here, plus they are changing the words. For example the fovea of your eye is now called the macula. Why the change ? You find me a good reason for that and I will kiss your ass on public square and give you a half hour to draw a crowd. (I better stop saying that but I think I am pretty safe on this one)
Definitions of word are partly defined by the reader. (or hearer). As such, the word ghetto must simply mean people who live in cheap apartments, either because of low income or just trying to save money.
I guess ghetto means cheap.
Few years ago I had to go on a call, and I hate that. I want their shit on my bench where I got the ten grand worth of tools to use on it, but every once in a while, especially when you are making the equivalent of about $30 an hour you just have to go. (not that I drove, fuck that, I drove to work, that is it)
Anyway, we go into this building, I guess the projects, and I swear the place looked like a jail. I actually thought to myself that if people live here no wonder they are not afraid of jail.
But that is your tax dollars at work, which means that enough money was spent to build the Trump towers but you got this fucking slum because everybody's hand was in the till. But it was only tax money so who cares ?
Other people in the meantime are doing landscaping and enhancements to their property and giving it curb appeal. They are installing upgrades and whatever, even putting 240 volts in the garage for an AC unit, and a pool, and one of those decorative ponds stocked with live fish and all that. They wash their cars or put them in the garage, but some don't because they are rebuilding a hotrod in the garage.
But when you go to visit these people in these projects when you walk in the front door it looks like you are going into a prison to visit a convicted murderer. I shit you not.
But when you get into their apartments you see they are relatively clean and upkept, maybe some clutter. Nicely furnished and quite livable.
Is that a ghetto ?
And are only certain races allowed ?
T^T
< Message edited by Termyn8or -- 6/20/2017 9:20:31 PM >
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