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In addition, queers were subject to police harassment, physical attacks by gangs of 'queer bashers' who invariably went unpunished, and from time to time, murder. . . .

So queers were forced to live their lives in the shadows, living in dread of exposure, imprisonment and ostracism. The queer rights movements that began after Stonewall in the late 1960s reversed all that.

Well thank goodness.

How did we ever lose that wonderful term? I'm glad somebody else has held onto it.

I always liked the designation because in the first place, "queer" said "different," which always attracted me, since I was 'different' even if not attracted to males. In fact, I'm about as hyper-heterosexual as they come.

I'm tired of having to distinguish between 'gay' and 'lesbian' all the time. Why can't we just do like in the good old days, say "queer" and be done with it?

Because a lot of folks think being labeled as different isn't necessarily a good thing.

The problem is the labeling, not in the people being labelled, and drawing attention to it by those labelled themselves legitimizing labeling by having "the power!" to make their own labels isn't going to rectify the matter. One would hope that 100-200 years from now nobody even understands the terms 'gay' or 'lez' or 'queer' or whatever, -due to lack of interest-.

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But I can understand why you would want them to go ahead and put up with it if it's so tiring for you to distinguish between gay and lesbian. After all, this is all about you, isn't it? So what if a group of people don't like the label you stuck on them, So what if they find it insulting, that's nothing compared to the pain of having to distinguish between the two. I guess they never realized the bullshit they were making you go through in order to feel better about themselves, those bastards.

Things change as time goes on.

In any case I never claimed the gay/lez designations as 'bullshit,' It's just that as time goes on, I get tired of keeping up with the latest determination as to what's supposed to be an insult or not. No matter what we call it now, it will be an insult in five-ten years. That's just how it works.

Queer Nation magazine was one of my favorite radical mags back when I was interested in radicalism. I'd already figured out the phenomenon of some people being more attracted to own gender years before, and had no issue. But the magazine attracted me because the scope of the mag was on overall issues, if some of it being to purpose of how it affected their own situation.

I've long since learned that radicalism isn't the way to nirvana, much less any decent society, but if a radical government is in place, it's hard to expect passive response.

In any case; Viva la Queer Nation magazine.

For your information:

It wasn't me or tweakable who "stuck them with that term."

Queer Nation

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If nothing else, this thread has been a pretty darn good demonstration of why we still need Pride.