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Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/23/2017 9:40:32 PM   
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Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’



WILMINGTON, Del. — People from all over the country are calling for a University of Delaware adjunct professor to be fired after she wrote on Facebook that Otto Warmbier "got exactly what he deserved" after being taken into custody by North Korea, falling into a coma and dying.

On her personal Facebook page, Kathy Dettwyler, an anthropology professor, wrote Tuesday that Warmbier was "typical of a mindset of a lot of the young, white, rich, clueless males who come into my classes."

"These are the same kids who cry about their grades because they didn't think they'd really have to read and study the material to get a good grade. ... His parents ultimately are to blame for his growing up thinking he could get away with whatever he wanted. Maybe in the US, where young, white, rich, clueless white males routinely get away with raping women.

Not so much in North Korea. And of course, it's Ottos' parents who will pay the price for the rest of their lives."Dettwyler made similar remarks in the comments section of an article published by the National Review. Her Facebook page has since been taken down or made private.

Warmbier, who died on Monday, was a University of Virginia student visiting North Korea in January 2016 when he was arrested and sentenced to 15 years hard labor after being accused of stealing a propaganda poster from his hotel.

Two months after his sentence he suffered a neurological injury and went into a coma. He was returned to his family last week and died shortly thereafter.

The university released the following statement regarding Dettwyler's online comments about Warmbier:

"The comments of Katherine Dettwyler do not reflect the values or position of the University of Delaware. We condemn any and all messages that endorse hatred and convey insensitivity toward a tragic event such as the one that Otto Warmbier and his family suffered.

"The University of Delaware values respect and civility and we are committed to global education and study abroad; therefore we find these comments particularly distressing and inconsistent with our values. Our sympathies are with the Warmbier family."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/24/professor-otto-warmbier-got-what-he-deserved/425661001/

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/23/2017 9:52:47 PM   
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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 7:50:39 AM   
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I wonder if the idiot prof believes black gang bangers in the inner city get what they deserve. Oh wait, that's white males fault too. I see the logic. Base your entire philosophy on white shaming.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 7:55:39 AM   
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Notice in the article, that the University of Delaware refused to say if there would be any discipline at all

What do you make of that

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 7:59:36 AM   
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Notice in the article, that the University of Delaware refused to say if there would be any discipline at all

What do you make of that

She's obviously tenured and her department is in agreement with her. Of course as a personnel matter the university shouldn't say anything anyway.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 8:31:52 AM   
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She's obviously tenured and her department is in agreement with her. Of course as a personnel matter the university shouldn't say anything anyway.


Well he was white so, anything that happened to him was richly deserved

Goes right along with the rest of the alt left's mantra

HuffPo, Others Appear to Say Warmbier's 'White Privilege' Makes NK Capture His Fault

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/20/otto-warmbier-death-huffington-post-headline-white-privilege-north-korea-capture

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 5:24:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		the blurb in the OP uses the word "adjunct" so she is not tenured.

theres a curious, almost paradoxical element to her statements. she is toeing the liberal line when she complains about "white privilege" but goes off the leftie reservation just a little when she complains about students not doing their work but expecting good grades.

in any event, I don't think she should be fired or even disciplined---if the college campus is supposed to be the hotbed of the marketplace of ideas, then that is the place for such things to be said, discussed and either supported or refuted.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 9:04:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damn, I keep typing and erasing my words on this one. It is messed up on so many levels.

I think what she said was awful, and parents who are paying tuition have a right to spend their money elsewhere; but she is allowed her opinion. Unless she was posting as a representative of the University, on a University sponsored site. Even then, parents need to stop acting as if their college age children shouldn't be exposed to controversial opinions. That is what a higher education is supposed to provide, at least in part.

That poor young man, what a senseless death.

Also, don't vacation in North Korea.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 9:14:39 PM   
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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/24/2017 11:17:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		So some adjunct professor by the name of Dettwyler, feels Warmbier deserved to die because he visited N. Korea ? Or because she think he feels himself some rich, white, privileged and clueless or.....or ?

Well of course he deserved to die...doesn't everybody just like him ? Maybe the prof. deserves to die too...we'll think of something. The prof. should be out on her ear.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 1:40:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe he didn't deserve it, but this didn't happen simply because he 'visited North Korea'.
He refused to take the rules seriously and stole a propaganda banner.
I guarantee that he was warned repeatedly ahead of time not to do what he did, and he still did it.
FFS this is a country with a history of tense relations with his own, a totalitarian dictatorship known for brutality and human rights violations... it has been in the news repeatedly and he must have been aware of it.

So it was a harsh punishment that he should have expected from a country that he must have known is notorious for doling out harsh punishments, where the soldiers have been trained to despise him.

I don't know if it was white privilege, but for whatever reason he thought he was above the rules or that they didn't matter... and now he's dead.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 5:35:37 AM   
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Damn, I keep typing and erasing my words on this one. It is messed up on so many levels.

I think what she said was awful, and parents who are paying tuition have a right to spend their money elsewhere; but she is allowed her opinion. Unless she was posting as a representative of the University, on a University sponsored site. Even then, parents need to stop acting as if their college age children shouldn't be exposed to controversial opinions. That is what a higher education is supposed to provide, at least in part.

That poor young man, what a senseless death.

Also, don't vacation in North Korea.


im actually a little dismayed by the quote from the university that bosco shared in the OP, distancing themselves from the woman and her position. they missed an opportunity to promote the exchange of ideas, however distasteful some ideas might be.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 5:41:15 AM   
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This is political theatre at the expense of the Warmbier family and their loss.





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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 5:48:40 AM   
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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 5:48:52 AM   
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Damn, I keep typing and erasing my words on this one. It is messed up on so many levels.

I think what she said was awful, and parents who are paying tuition have a right to spend their money elsewhere; but she is allowed her opinion. Unless she was posting as a representative of the University, on a University sponsored site. Even then, parents need to stop acting as if their college age children shouldn't be exposed to controversial opinions. That is what a higher education is supposed to provide, at least in part.

That poor young man, what a senseless death.

Also, don't vacation in North Korea.


im actually a little dismayed by the quote from the university that bosco shared in the OP, distancing themselves from the woman and her position. they missed an opportunity to promote the exchange of ideas, however distasteful some ideas might be.

They're probably worried about being sued by the kid's parents, even if the adjunct professor in question was posting under her own auspices rather than as a representative of the university. Distancing themselves from her makes it very clear that they're not going to have any part in legal proceedings that may be brought.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 6:07:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		When you do stupid shit in a foreign country (or even our country) you frequently end up in the slammer.
When you end up in the slammer, bad shit tends to happen no matter what your color or gender.

Moral of the story.
Don't do stupid shit and stay out of the slammer.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 6:18:07 AM   
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When you do stupid shit in a foreign country (or even our country) you frequently end up in the slammer.
When you end up in the slammer, bad shit tends to happen no matter what your color or gender.

Moral of the story.
Don't do stupid shit and stay out of the slammer.

Obviously, but in this case accepting the obvious interpretation of events denies certain idiots the opportunity to whine about institutionalised leftist oppression of the privileged white male, so they're going to make a point of ignoring the obvious.

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 6:25:19 AM   
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Notice in the article, that the University of Delaware refused to say if there would be any discipline at all

What do you make of that


What should we make of your ignorance of the first amendment dumbass?

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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 6:32:39 AM   
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I wonder if the idiot prof believes black gang bangers in the inner city get what they deserve.

If you could read you would not have to ask.


Oh wait, that's white males fault too.

Remedial reading is for adults also.


I see the logic. Base your entire philosophy on white shaming.

She seems to be more into shaming the stupidity and ignorance of the self absorbed.


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RE: Professor: Otto Warmbier got ‘what he deserved’ - 6/25/2017 6:36:03 AM   
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the blurb in the OP uses the word "adjunct" so she is not tenured.

theres a curious, almost paradoxical element to her statements. she is toeing the liberal line when she complains about "white privilege" but goes off the leftie reservation just a little when she complains about students not doing their work but expecting good grades.

Only a moron who operates on your level of stupidity would believe that 'liberal' professors don't want their students to learn.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

in any event, I don't think she should be fired or even disciplined---if the college campus is supposed to be the hotbed of the marketplace of ideas, then that is the place for such things to be said, discussed and either supported or refuted.


Absolutely.

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