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The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Mutilation - 7/13/2017 6:01:13 PM

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So how do you like your fabulous pink pussyhat now

Maine lawmakers divided on bill to criminalize female genital mutilation

AUGUSTA (WGME) -- A bill to criminalize female genital mutilation in Maine is expected to die this session, with the House refusing to take it up again.

Lawmakers are unable to agree which version of the bill to support, but both supporters and opponents agree this isn't the last we'll hear of the divisive issue.

LD 745 would criminalize female genital mutilation, or FGM, making it a Class B crime to perform the procedure on someone under 18, also allowing their parent or guardian to face charges.

Rep. Heather Sirocki, R-Scarborough, introduced the legislation.

"There are absolutely no medical benefits at all to this type of procedure and it is not similar to male circumcision," Sirocki said.

She said Maine is a high risk state, with MaineCare billing last year showing eight instances of providers treating problems resulting from FGM.

"The specific law is wanted by the Maine Prosecutors Association because there was some ambiguity around this and there was a case that failed on appeal because it was not specific enough," said Sirocki. "The prosecutors really feel they need that clarity to specifically prohibit this and that's what they're asking for."

House Democrats amended the bill to just establish outreach and education on the issue, a move supported by the American Civil Liberties Union of Maine, which released a statement saying in part, "There are already severe penalties ... This bill is nothing more than an attempt to single out behavior that is commonly attributed to certain religious and ethnic communities as different from other forms of abuse."

Senator Mark Dion, D-Portland, is against the practice, but also opposes the bill. He said FGM could already be prosecuted as an assault or sexual abuse.

"There are some of my colleagues who believe whenever we discover a new set of facts, it requires it's own law. I think the beauty of the criminal code is it can be applied to changing fact circumstances," said Dion.
Sirocki said she expects similar legislation to be presented again in two years.

http://wgme.com/news/local/maine-lawmakers-divided-on-bill-to-criminalize-female-genital-mutilation

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 6:25:00 PM

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This topic is not for you
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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 6:29:02 PM

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if maine doesnt have a bill against FGM

Then thats their problem

Please name one "woman" on here that isnt against FGM(I mean non consensual FGM on girls.) FOr the record, Im also against cutting boys.
ALmost a mooselamb scare tactic, wasnt it.

Heres a different take on it

The Press Herald reported:

After a lengthy and emotional debate, the House voted 76-71 against creating a new crime of “female genital mutilation” – on top of existing federal and state prohibitions – for a procedure estimated by the United Nations to have been performed on at least 200 million girls and women in 30 countries. Instead, House Democrats supported a version that directs the Maine Department of Health and Human Services to establish outreach and education programs featuring “culturally specific services for communities in the state wherein which female genital mutilation of minors might be practiced.”

Rep. Rachel Talbot explained why she amended the bill:

Rep. Rachel Talbot Ross, D-Portland, introduced the amendment to change the bill to require outreach and education programs aimed at communities in Maine where FGM “might be practiced.” Those programs would include support networks for victims of the practice as well as “culturally sensitive professional training.”

“We all share the same goal, and our shared goal is we don’t want female genital mutilation to happen,” said Rep. Charlotte Warren, D-Hallowell, who noted Talbot Ross’s amendment had the support of national policy groups, victims advocates and the immigrant community.

Those who opposed the original bill believe the laws in Maine are more than enough:

The debate over the bill, L.D. 745, was not whether the practice happens worldwide but rather whether it is occurring in Maine, particularly inside the state’s growing communities of African immigrants.

“I do not believe that it is happening in the state of Maine. I truly do not believe that,” said Rep. Lois Galgay Reckitt, D-South Portland. “And I believe if it was happening, it would be prosecuted vigorously by the federal (laws) or by the abuse statutes in this state.”

However, Circa reported that the Maine Prosecutors Association supported this bill because it would allow the prosecutors “to clarify and specifically identify” female genital mutilation as a crime, “with a clear level of crime attributed to both the person doing the cutting as well as the parents who are accomplices.” That’s “because some prosecutors question whether it is ‘aggravated assault when the parents and the children consent.'”

This newly worded bill will go to the Senate.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 7:31:10 PM

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Federal law already bans female genital mutilation.

Any state law is just theater.

Incidentally, signed into law by Bill Clinton.

Why isn't the Trump Justice Department enforcing the law?

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 7:39:47 PM

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It had everything he loves in one topic....
feminists, Mooselambs and Dems.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 7:50:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Federal law already bans female genital mutilation.

Any state law is just theater.

Incidentally, signed into law by Bill Clinton.

Why isn't the Trump Justice Department enforcing the law?

Learn how to read for comprehension, moose

"The specific law is wanted by the Maine Prosecutors Association because there was some ambiguity around this and there was a case that failed on appeal because it was not specific enough," said Sirocki. "The prosecutors really feel they need that clarity to specifically prohibit this and that's what they're asking for."

NM, you are far too stupid to ever manage that

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 7:53:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

It had everything he loves in one topic....
feminists, Mooselambs and Dems.

If alt left trash were anything other than human waste they could eventually learn to discuss a topic rather than constantly rely on mindless fallacies as their crutch

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 7:54:39 PM

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So why isn't Congress on this? I thought the GOP Congress was all about fixing laws, like the ACA, or tax law, that need revision. Don't they care about the 500 million Muslim women in the US affected by genital mutilation?

Or is this all about the Rs and Ds for you?

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 8:06:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

It had everything he loves in one topic....
feminists, Mooselambs and Dems.

If alt left trash were anything other than human waste they could eventually learn to discuss a topic rather than constantly rely on mindless fallacies as their crutch

I did respond to the topic, you ignored it...thats not my problem
Btw...
it might be easier if you use, "alt left human waste trash" or an acronym...it might save you a few finger strokes and allow the bubbles in your stream of consciousness to work again...

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 8:29:55 PM

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Did the Obama administration uphold the law ?

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 8:56:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Federal law already bans female genital mutilation.

Any state law is just theater.

Incidentally, signed into law by Bill Clinton.

Why isn't the Trump Justice Department enforcing the law?

Learn how to read for comprehension, moose

"The specific law is wanted by the Maine Prosecutors Association because there was some ambiguity around this and there was a case that failed on appeal because it was not specific enough," said Sirocki. "The prosecutors really feel they need that clarity to specifically prohibit this and that's what they're asking for."

NM, you are far too stupid to ever manage that

pussy grabbers laws are not any more effective than gun laws, enforce the laws on the books nutsuckers. the fact that some fucking retarded nutsucker prosecutor cannot make a case is not a fault of the law.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 8:57:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Did the Obama administration uphold the law ?

There is a nutsucker president, you won, get over it. uphold the law nutsuckers.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 9:22:37 PM

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Only one case has been brought to court in the US since 96, WHY?
well thats quite simple. silence.
Example, only 6% of rapists see the inside of a jail

In 2006 project "Safe Childhood" was started by the Obama DOJ

quote:

Project Safe Childhood is a nationwide initiative to combat the growing epidemic of child sexual exploitation and abuse launched in May 2006 by the Department of Justice. Led by the U.S. Attorneys' Offices and the Criminal Division's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section (CEOS), Project Safe Childhood marshals federal, state and local resources to better locate, apprehend and prosecute individuals who exploit children via the Internet, as well as to identify and rescue victims.

The case against Jumana Nagarwala and the Attars, was brought in april, after an FBI investigation. The FBI records indicate that phone records were requested in February and was being investigated in october of 2016, Video was recorded in February.
I rather think that the previous admins FBI people were in at the start of it...not your messiah
but hey, you can make accusations all you want

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/13/2017 10:51:18 PM

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I cant believe there should be any questions if FGM is okay. It's like plastic surgery. If the mom thinks the baby ain't pretty enough, is plastic surgery okay?

I don't care if women do FGM when they reach consensual age and wanna mutiliate their own pussy.

But it should be a clear universal NO for it being done to modify babies.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/14/2017 1:00:16 AM

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I cant believe there should be any questions if FGM is okay. It's like plastic surgery. If the mom thinks the baby ain't pretty enough, is plastic surgery okay?

I don't care if women do FGM when they reach consensual age and wanna mutiliate their own pussy.

But it should be a clear universal NO for it being done to modify babies.

I am surprised you brought up the subject of plastic surgery on under 18s. During my time at the hospital in Singapore it was considered a normal practice

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/14/2017 1:05:48 AM

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That's why it's illegal, Greta.

And there have been successful prosecutions in a number of countries, many of whom you slam as being pro-Muslim.

I don't see anyone defending FGM round here so I'm not sure why we keep manufacturing some big left/right controversy about it. Interestingly it was the left and feminist groups who did most to push for effective laws in the UK, but it's certainly not a left/right issue as the only debate was about how to tackle FGM most effectively and protect children when those carrying it out had a conspiracy of silence.

The upshot is that both doctors and family members have been prosecuted, quite rightly.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/14/2017 4:44:22 AM

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Did the Obama administration uphold the law ?

Good point

Democrat presidents refuse to enforce laws, they have guns to run to narcoterrorists instead, things like that. Tarmac meetings...

So states need their own laws on everything

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/14/2017 4:47:02 AM

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That's why it's illegal, Greta.

And there have been successful prosecutions in a number of countries, many of whom you slam as being pro-Muslim.

I don't see anyone defending FGM round here so I'm not sure why we keep manufacturing some big left/right controversy about it. Interestingly it was the left and feminist groups who did most to push for effective laws in the UK, but it's certainly not a left/right issue as the only debate was about how to tackle FGM most effectively and protect children when those carrying it out had a conspiracy of silence.

The upshot is that both doctors and family members have been prosecuted, quite rightly.

I don't see anyone condemning Maine Democrats, I see people lashing out like jackals defending them

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/14/2017 5:28:15 AM

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I see retarded nutsuckers felchgobbling putinjizz and nutsuckers lashing out with their tongues for more putinjizz defending them.

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RE: The Pussyhat Party Goes Easy On Female Genital Muti... - 7/14/2017 5:30:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

That's why it's illegal, Greta.

And there have been successful prosecutions in a number of countries, many of whom you slam as being pro-Muslim.

I don't see anyone defending FGM round here so I'm not sure why we keep manufacturing some big left/right controversy about it. Interestingly it was the left and feminist groups who did most to push for effective laws in the UK, but it's certainly not a left/right issue as the only debate was about how to tackle FGM most effectively and protect children when those carrying it out had a conspiracy of silence.

The upshot is that both doctors and family members have been prosecuted, quite rightly.

I don't see anyone condemning Maine Democrats, I see people lashing out like jackals defending them

On this thread?

Really? Is that really what you see?

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