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Yeah. There probably aren't even any white supremacists. Made it up on the same sound stage they used for the moon landing.

Moron.

Oh moose



There were white supremacists a plenty. There were black racists represented by BLM. No leftie will admit a black person can be racist. They even change the definition of racism to ensure it. And there were leftie goon provocateurs represented by antifa. Yet to a leftie loon it was all white supremacists. It's the old leftie cartoon world.

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without going through 14 pages of posts to see if this has already been covered, im going to throw this out there and no doubt hack off a lot of the comrades here.

its the left who feel "entitled" to meet people who hold opinions with which they disagree, with violence.

given that, I have very little doubt where the escalation came from.

Sure. No need for the facts when you've already invented your own story.

its not "a story," its a potentiality, or a theory, based on a premise of a known fact---that the left are violent.

and since there is pretty much no way to determine who was the instigator of the violence, that's all youre going to get, a theory.

as to your implied accusation---im back to "you suck."

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There were over 1,000 police, first responders, and National Guardsmen in the area. This should not have descended into the brawl that erupted, but it seems the police did nothing to quell the violence, at least not immediately (via ProPublica):

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Standing nearby, an assortment of Virginia State Police troopers and Charlottesville police wearing protective gear watched silently from behind an array of metal barricades — and did nothing.

It was a scene that played out over and over in Charlottesville as law enforcement confronted the largest public gathering of white supremacists in decades. We walked the streets beginning in the early morning hours and repeatedly witnessed instances in which authorities took a largely laissez faire approach, allowing white supremacists and counter-protesters to physically battle.

Anger over the delayed response was reported from everyone, according to The Washington Post:

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“The worst part is that people got hurt, and the police stood by and didn’t do a g------- thing,” David Copper, 70, of Staunton, Va., said after an initial morning melee at a park that went unchecked by police for several minutes.

At one point, police appeared to retreat and then watch the beatings before eventually moving in to end the free-for-all, make arrests and tend to the injured. Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) declared a state of emergency about 11 a.m. and activated the Virginia National Guard.

“The whole point is to have overwhelming force so that people don’t get the idea they can do these kinds of things and get away with it,” said Charles H. Ramsey, who headed both the District and Philadelphia police departments.

Demonstrators and counterdemonstrators “need to be in sight and sound of each other, but somebody has to be in between,” he said. “That’s usually the police.”

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So it's the police's fault. Armed marching white supremacists were innocent bystanders, right?

You really, really, are ridiculous.

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police are charged with keeping the peace. they didn't do their job. part of the blame then for what happened lies in their camp.

no one said or implied anything about "armed white supremacists being innocent bystanders."

is the former police chief of Philadelphia "ridiculous" also?

we're right back to "you suck" and youre stupid as well.

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So it's the police's fault. Armed marching white supremacists were innocent bystanders, right?

You really, really, are ridiculous.

The only picture I saw, showed Armed Black Counter Protesters and the white supremacists only had flags.

You mean the counter protestors didn't come armed too?

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police are charged with keeping the peace. they didn't do their job. part of the blame then for what happened lies in their camp.

no one said or implied anything about "armed white supremacists being innocent bystanders."

is the former police chief of Philadelphia "ridiculous" also?

we're right back to "you suck" and youre stupid as well.

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A few wrap-it-up thoughts from Charlottesville: 1. Striking how many of the white nationalists were young people, almost entirely men," she wrote in a series of tweets Sunday. "2. The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park[.] 3. Among my unanswered questions: police response. Why did things get out of hand so quickly? Could violence have been prevented?"

New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg made the mistake of admitting that along with the abhorrent, violent, white supremacists who terrorized Charlottesville over the weekend, many Antifa protesters were also enacting "hate-filled" violence, as they've done in several other cities in recent months. For noting that the "hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right" — citing "club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park" — Stolberg was hammered online, even after repenting and issuing a correction that depicted the violent left in more heroic terms.

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"NY Times Reporter Admits Antifa Protesters In Charlottesville Were 'Hate-Filled' And Violent Before Left Forces Her To Backtrack"

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A few wrap-it-up thoughts from Charlottesville: 1. Striking how many of the white nationalists were young people, almost entirely men," she wrote in a series of tweets Sunday. "2. The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park[.] 3. Among my unanswered questions: police response. Why did things get out of hand so quickly? Could violence have been prevented?"

New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg made the mistake of admitting that along with the abhorrent, violent, white supremacists who terrorized Charlottesville over the weekend, many Antifa protesters were also enacting "hate-filled" violence, as they've done in several other cities in recent months. For noting that the "hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right" — citing "club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park" — Stolberg was hammered online, even after repenting and issuing a correction that depicted the violent left in more heroic terms.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19673/ny-times-reporter-admits-antifa-protesters-james-barrett

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Yeah. There probably aren't even any white supremacists. Made it up on the same sound stage they used for the moon landing.

Moron.

Oh moose



There were white supremacists a plenty. There were black racists represented by BLM. No leftie will admit a black person can be racist. They even change the definition of racism to ensure it. And there were leftie goon provocateurs represented by antifa. Yet to a leftie loon it was all white supremacists. It's the old leftie cartoon world.

Nonsense. And the existence of black racists doesn't excuse the problem of white supremacists.

It just means we have two people groups.

Grow up. "Mom--but BILLY did it!" doesn't work in the adult work. Or a child's world, as I recall.

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~FR~

Raise your hand, anyone, if you're seriously surprised that an armed white supremacist march would draw angry counter-protestors.

It's a hate march. There are people who really hate that kind of things.

And not hard to see they'd feel compelled to take a stand.

The whole POINT of the march was to stir things up.

Hello. Reality calling.

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Yeah... whose idea was it?

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Yeah... whose idea was it?

Such groups, belonging to whatever part of the spectrum, usually are infiltrated and guided by secret services.

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Greta
Believe it or not virtually every city in the US does require a permit to assemble,

Cite please. Since when is it necessary to have a permit to assemble.



and they are rarely issued on short notice.

Cite please.


Since permits of that sort are public records they are available for pretty much anyone to view, well before the event.
The problems occur when others of opposing views decide to counter protest on the same day without a permit,


You have been given a cite that shows that the counter protesters had a permit so why do you continue to be disingenuous?

and are allowed to do so by local authorities.
That almost always leads to clashes of the type we have just seen.

Cite please

This is much like illegal immigration here, the US wouldn't have problems if the laws already on the books were simply enforced.

Which laws would those be?