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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 12:41:44 PM   
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Raise your hand, anyone, if you're seriously surprised that an armed white supremacist march would draw angry counter-protestors.

It's a hate march. There are people who really hate that kind of things.

And not hard to see they'd feel compelled to take a stand.

The whole POINT of the march was to stir things up.

Hello. Reality calling.

It appears reality was a couple of days ahead of you. There were many sides hating on each other with tactic consent from the elected officials for one of those hate groups...the democrat elected officials running the city. Trump was correct.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 12:44:47 PM   
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we only have nutsucker cockgargling as our evidence of that, however.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 12:48:41 PM   
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we only have nutsucker cockgargling as our evidence of that, however.

What is the consensus of the voices in your head and how well do you rate the Intel?

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 1:09:10 PM   
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White nationalists are white people who believe that their country should remain majority white.
The Nazis in Germany during WWII were white nationalists with their belief in the "Chosen Race."
Many countries today have groups of white nationalists. I firmly believe that the Brexit vote was based in white nationalism.


Hmmm... do you think there may be a good portion that just don't want their heritage destroyed... Right or wrong these statues represent their ancestors. They understand it was a different time with different social norms. You or I born into that society would have been just as prejudiced by today's standards... We would not have known any better. These people may very well not even be prejudiced or care about white majority rule. My family came to Missouri from S Carolina and the majority of my male ancestors fought for the south...and many did not own slaves... I can see being upset if my heritage was being destroyed.

Butch

The reason and judgment of modern mankind informs that we do not need to be slave to a 'tradition' 'culture' or 'heritage.' We take from and learn but one is not required to honor the past's violence and butchery.

Events such as these tell us there is a long way to go to leave the 'signs' of oppression and the southern culture and tradition and heritage of racism and the 100 year subjugation of blacks...removed. Removed not just from public sight but from the memories of those who once did celebrate such racism and slavery.

Why however though do we pay such respect for our constitutional right of freedom of speech but don't hold the same reverence for our equally constitutionally protected right to assemble ?

There are NO 'illegal' assemblies. For those who become violent, their actions become illegal...not the assembly.

Where can I find this "reason and judgement of modern mankind"? As with all of your tin foil hat theories, you don't have a foundation under any of your postulates. For instance, by your arguments, black people today shouldn't have any problems with prior slavery or racism issues because the reason and judgement of modern mankind tells us they don't have to be slaves to tradition, culture or heritage. So, good, according to you its all fixed now.

The legal part for the most part has been fixed with the exception of the obvious attempts at gerrymandering, voter restrictions and job discrimination. Haven't the slightest idea why you now go on about 'tin foil hat' theories whatever they are.

However no, it's not 'all fixed' now and quite the contrary. Because for example not just the confederate flag which to me, could just as well be a Nazi flag, representing the flag of a country for traitors who revolted against this country.

Then there are the statues and my presumed honor of a man who resigned his officer's commission in the US Army to go join another army to fight his former country, the ultimate in traitorous action. The US would have been equally justified in hanging Lee as it was in hanging John Brown.

You're arguing against your previous point. If the reason and judgement of modern mankind informs us that we don't need to be slave of tradition, culture or heritage then people of color don't need to be offended by statues and flags. If they do need to be offended then your reason and judgement of modern mankind statement is wrong or you are saying people of color don't have the reason and judgement of modern mankind.

Incorrect. It isn't statues and flags themselves. It is that they exist so their reason and judgment tells them they must live creations and symbols of a previous culture and tradition and of a people holding the values that such as a matter of state's rights, would own another human as property...chattel. A culture, heritage and tradition that most of the north by that time had already refused to observe.

Then these statues were built by and flags flown by their successors that symbolized Jim Crow, lynchings and terrorism, outright legalized discrimination from top to bottom in all of civil life and for over a hundred years more.



Not only do you not see the internal conflicts in your idiotic arguements I remember when ISIS and the Taliban were blowing up monuments and museum pieces in areas they controlled the entire world was aghast. But here you're arguing for the ISIS/Talaban methodology. Nice of you to so openly show your stripes. Tell me, did you buy any of the museum pieces or virgin slave girls they were selling?

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 1:35:27 PM   
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chik fil a did as the nutsuckers whined, wrung their snoflake hands, gnashed their teeth, shit their pants, felchgobbled putinjizz, and did nothing as the robbery continued.



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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 1:51:59 PM   
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The Democrat Party had a huge role in supporting slavery and oppressing blacks, far bigger than any monument or statue

So... When will the alt left get around to blowing up the Democrat Party

The Democrats were pro-slavery... They founded and supported the KKK, they were the party of Jim Crow, the party that demonized and oppressed MLK and the same party that vehemently opposed the Civil Rights Act.





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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 1:58:18 PM   
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I remember when ISIS and the Taliban were blowing up monuments and museum pieces in areas they controlled the entire world was aghast.
But here you're arguing for the ISIS/Talaban methodology. Nice of you to so openly show your stripes. Tell me, did you buy any of the museum pieces or
virgin slave girls they were selling?

Was the Taliban blowing up statues of traitors?


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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 1:59:40 PM   
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The Democrat Party had a huge role in supporting slavery and oppressing blacks, far bigger than any monument or statue

So... When will the alt left get around to blowing up the Democrat Party

The Democrats were pro-slavery... They founded and supported the KKK, they were the party of Jim Crow, the party that demonized and oppressed MLK and the same party that vehemently opposed the Civil Rights Act.





And then the nutsuckers took over, and are supporting all of that as well as putinjizz felchgobbling.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:01:45 PM   
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The Democrat Party had a huge role in supporting slavery and oppressing blacks, As did the whigs and the democratic republicans...what is your point?

The Democrats were pro-slavery... They founded and supported the KKK,

History says it was nathan bedford forest who founded the kkk.


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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:05:16 PM   
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Here's what real history says:

KU KLUX KLAN

Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s. After a period of decline, white Protestant nativist groups revived the Klan in the early 20th century, burning crosses and staging rallies, parades and marches denouncing immigrants, Catholics, Jews, blacks and organized labor. The civil rights movement of the 1960s also saw a surge of Ku Klux Klan activity, including bombings of black schools and churches and violence against black and white activists in the South.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:19:40 PM   
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So, this is a march that happened Aug. 12, 2017.

I'm not sure you're aware, but things have changed. Dems took a beating over Civil Rights in the 1960s. Trent Lott got booted out of the Senate for Dixiecrat remarks. We had a black president (well, 1/2 black). He even got re-elected. Then a nasty lowest-common denominator got elected on a platform of hate and promising huge plans with no details that never materialized.

Then a bunch of KKK and neo-Nazi folks decided to invade a town over a statue and to remind the hate-monger who helped elect him.

A lot of people (they could be leftist -- I actually don't know who they are for certain) were appalled armed white supremacists could try to intimidate a town, and showed up to oppose the hate. These two groups naturally didn't like each other. Government tried to prevent the clash by changing the permits, but a Bush appointee judge put a stop to that, resulting in violence that injured several people and killed three when a white nationalist rammed his car into the crowd.

That's the history.

Now, you can spin and spin and spin, but bottom line, today's white supremacists created this problem, including murdering three people.

Interesting by continually (and weirdly) trying to make this a leftist issue, you've solidly aligned the right with the neo-Nazis.

Congratulations--you've become radicalized. You're gonna need a couple of flags.


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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:33:03 PM   
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All you insane little howler trolls have, are your retard fallacy arguments to try to make these threads personal

The Democrats have only changed tactics. Their big thing now, is to put a "free" abortion clinic in every black neighborhood, and to get them and other minorities and poor people hooked on "free" government handouts to effectively destroy them as functional, self-sufficient human beings

Then USE them, to gain more and more power over them and their lives



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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:38:17 PM   
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So now it's about abortion.

You've been spinning so long that you can't tell the difference anymore.


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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:40:09 PM   
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Here's what real history says:

KU KLUX KLAN

Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s. After a period of decline, white Protestant nativist groups revived the Klan in the early 20th century, burning crosses and staging rallies, parades and marches denouncing immigrants, Catholics, Jews, blacks and organized labor. The civil rights movement of the 1960s also saw a surge of Ku Klux Klan activity, including bombings of black schools and churches and violence against black and white activists in the South.

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Why are we not surprised that your link does not work.
Here is one that does work.


Nathan Bedford Forrest: a biography
ISBN-13: 978-0679748304

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:42:06 PM   
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Here you are, howler:

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:49:28 PM   
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So now it's about abortion.

You've been spinning so long that you can't tell the difference anymore.




Right... Destroying millions of black babies is a huge yawner an average Democrat Party / alt left useful idiot like you

No surprise there

Sec. Clinton Stands By Her Praise of Eugenicist Margaret Sanger

Last month, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accepted Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger Award, named after the founder of the American Birth Control League, which changed its name to Planned Parenthood in the 1940s. In her remarks

Clinton singled out the namesake of the award for praise:

Now, I have to tell you that it was a great privilege when I was told that I would receive this award. I admire Margaret Sanger enormously, her courage, her tenacity, her vision ... And when I think about what she did all those years ago in Brooklyn, taking on archetypes, taking on attitudes and accusations flowing from all directions, I am really in awe of her.

Clinton lamented that "Margaret Sanger's work here in the United States and certainly across our globe is not done."
Here at home, there are still too many women who are denied their rights because of income, because of opposition, because of attitudes that they harbor. But around the world, too many women are denied even the opportunity to know about how to plan and space their families. They're denied the power to do anything about the most intimate of decisions.

Mrs. Sanger, of course, wasn't the benevolent advocate for human rights that Clinton's remarks make her out to be. In fact, Sanger's "vision" for birth control seems to be united to a eugenic vision. In the October 1921 issue of
The Birth Control Review

Sanger wrote that "the campaign for Birth Control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical in ideal with the final aim of Eugenics." Sanger laid out the "principles and aims" of the American Birth Control League in an appendix to her 1922 work, The Pivot of Civilization

Two and a half pages are devoted to the principles of the American Birth Control league, which begins:
The complex problems now confronting America as the result of the practice of reckless procreation are fast threatening to grow beyond human control. Everywhere we see poverty and large families going hand in hand. Those least fit to carry on the race are increasing most rapidly. People who cannot support their own offspring are encouraged by Church and State to produce large families. Many of the children thus begotten are diseased or feeble minded. Many become criminals. The burden of supporting these unwanted types has to be borne by the healthy elements of the nation. Funds that should be used to raise the standard of our civilization are diverted to the maintenance of those who should never have been born.

Of the 11 aims of the American Birth Control League outlined by Sanger after an explanation of its principles, only two are not directly related to the problem that Sanger called "dysgenic breeding." One of the most shocking "aims" of the ABCL is the "sterilization of the insane and feeble minded and the encouragement of this operation upon those afflicted with inherited or transmissible diseases with the understanding that sterilization does not deprive the individual of his or her sex expression but merely renders him incapable of producing children." PDFs of these works are available
here

When asked for clarification about Clinton's admiration of Sanger's "vision" and whether the secretary wished she had mitigated her praise with a mention of the more seedy aspects of Sanger's legacy, a State Department spokesman told The Weekly Standard yesterday that Clinton's speechwriters said Clinton's words "stand on their own." New Jersey representative Chris Smith, the co-chair of the congressional pro-life caucus, said that he doesn't think it's possible to separate Sanger's eugenicist aims from a greater vision. "If you read the books--I've read the books--[eugenics] is absolutely the pillar of everything Sanger did," said Smith. "Look at what movement she spawned in terms of getting rid of the 'undesirables,' and that could be the disabled, African Americans, and just about every other group of people. I mean, Catholics, Italians, and Irish. I mean, that is a very pathetic and sick perspective towards the human race, and yet she's idolized by, of all people, our secretary of state."



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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:51:28 PM   
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So, this is a march that happened Aug. 12, 2017.

I'm not sure you're aware, but things have changed. Dems took a beating over Civil Rights in the 1960s. Trent Lott got booted out of the Senate for Dixiecrat remarks. We had a black president (well, 1/2 black). He even got re-elected. Then a nasty lowest-common denominator got elected on a platform of hate and promising huge plans with no details that never materialized.

Then a bunch of KKK and neo-Nazi folks decided to invade a town over a statue and to remind the hate-monger who helped elect him.

A lot of people (they could be leftist -- I actually don't know who they are for certain) were appalled armed white supremacists could try to intimidate a town, and showed up to oppose the hate. These two groups naturally didn't like each other. Government tried to prevent the clash by changing the permits, but a Bush appointee judge put a stop to that, resulting in violence that injured several people and killed three when a white nationalist rammed his car into the crowd.

That's the history.

Now, you can spin and spin and spin, but bottom line, today's white supremacists created this problem, including murdering three people.

Interesting by continually (and weirdly) trying to make this a leftist issue, you've solidly aligned the right with the neo-Nazis.

Congratulations--you've become radicalized. You're gonna need a couple of flags.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 2:53:08 PM   
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Here you are, howler:

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan


From your link dumbass:

Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest was chosen as the first leader, or “grand wizard,” of the Klan; he presided over a hierarchy of grand dragons, grand titans and grand cyclopses.

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 3:33:13 PM   
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So you blame Obama, Hillary, Margaret Sanger, the Democratic Party, the Mayor, and Antifa/BLM for what happened?

Hmm, so I suppose the white nationalists were all singing "Give Peace A Chance" and hugging people, right? You must be smoking that same Fake News shit Trump smoked himself stupid on, eh? And I suppose Jesus really took the wheel that time and drove some douchebag's Charger into a group of people...backed up at a high rate of speed...and then took off?

What happened is the fault of every single person there who resorted to violence that day. No matter how many mirrors you put up, no matter how much smoke you blow out of your ass, nor red herrings you throw to place blame anywhere else

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RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of e... - 8/15/2017 4:02:33 PM   
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So you blame Obama, Hillary, Margaret Sanger, the Democratic Party, the Mayor, and Antifa/BLM for what happened?

Hmm, so I suppose the white nationalists were all singing "Give Peace A Chance" and hugging people, right? You must be smoking that same Fake News shit Trump smoked himself stupid on, eh? And I suppose Jesus really took the wheel that time and drove some douchebag's Charger into a group of people...backed up at a high rate of speed...and then took off?

What happened is the fault of every single person there who resorted to violence that day. No matter how many mirrors you put up, no matter how much smoke you blow out of your ass, nor red herrings you throw to place blame anywhere else


I didn't "blame" anyone for anything.

I wrote:

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The Democrat Party had a huge role in supporting slavery and oppressing blacks, far bigger than any monument or statue

So... When will the alt left get around to blowing up the Democrat Party

The Democrats were pro-slavery... They founded and supported the KKK, they were the party of Jim Crow, the party that demonized and oppressed MLK and the same party that vehemently opposed the Civil Rights Act.


And then the thread progressed from there

But unfortunately you are far too stupid to understand something so simple

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