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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/23/2017 4:41:08 PM   
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"I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered," ~Robert E. Lee


great quote---but unless you can make the case that today's monuments are "keeping open the sores of war" (and I don't hear anyone saying that) it has nothing really to do with what is going on today.


Depends on how you ask the question . . . .

Sixty-two percent of respondents to an NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist University poll conducted after the violence in Charlottesville said that statues honoring leaders of the Confederacy should remain standing as historical symbols rather than be removed. In a different poll, by Economist/YouGov, a plurality of people (48 percent) said they disapproved of removing the Robert E. Lee statue from the Charlottesville park while 30 percent approved of taking the statue down. Notably, more than one out of five people (22 percent) had no opinion — a show of real ambiguity from Americans who aren’t sure about the best thing to do.

Far more Americans are sure about their feelings on white supremacists. Eighty-six percent, according to the Marist poll, disagree with the white supremacy movement and 94 percent disagree with the views of the KKK.

White supremacy was/is the main issue dividing the American people since the writing of the Constitution. So yeah, the statues are very significant to what we have fought about throughout our history.

Do these words mean anything to you? Slavery, Civil War, Emancipation Proclamation, lynching, voting rights, job and housing discrimination, Jim Crow?

These words have all been descriptors of our racial history.

The statues are avatars for these words. How can you not understand that this whole issue is about racial superiority/inferiority? Not about statues.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 5:27:38 PM   
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Video - CNN's Alisyn Camerota asks a panel of 6 people about President Trump's reaction to the Charlottesville tragedy, clearly does not want to hear their opinions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECs5qE4yvQ&feature=youtu.be

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 5:49:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well vince, if it helps -- I could give a shit whether they keep them up or tear them down.

I notice no one ever suggested leaving up Saddam Hussein's statues for historical purposes.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 5:50:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		6 people...in a country of how many is the current US population? Just curious because this doesnt seem like a very big sample size. Just saying. 6 people is what...one household worth? Maybe a household and a half?

And FYI, Im a lefty who thinks that both sides were to blame the moment each individual committed a violent act

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 5:52:08 PM   
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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 5:54:04 PM   
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That's not how math works in the alt-right.


Silly me. Forgot to apply the alt right conversion factor. So thats...2 households? 2.1274931 households?

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:01:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		i cant watch video where im at, but given his wording, I suspect the emphasis/purpose of bosco's post is not that six people are saying "whatever," its rather that the host doesn't want to hear it.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:02:32 PM   
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That's not how math works in the alt-right.


Silly me. Forgot to apply the alt right conversion factor. So thats...2 households? 2.1274931 households?


By alt left math none of those people exist

And Hillary is still inevitable - up 12 points in every swing state

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:08:54 PM   
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i cant watch video where im at, but given his wording, I suspect the emphasis/purpose of bosco's post is not that six people are saying "whatever," its rather that the host doesn't want to hear it.


A commenter under the video nailed the gist of it:

"But don't you think that every single person who attended the rally on the one side was pure evil; Satan incarnate, and the other side were pure angels and defenders of freedom, (social) justice, and all things righteous and good, and if not, why are you such a dumb piece of racist shit?" - CNN Reporter

(One of the people on the panel was a black woman, sees right through all of CNNs false narratives, as did all of those on the panel)

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:37:50 PM   
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Well vince, if it helps -- I could give a shit whether they keep them up or tear them down.

I notice no one ever suggested leaving up Saddam Hussein's statues for historical purposes.

Oh ya, Saddam and Lee are exactly equivalent.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:42:31 PM   
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i cant watch video where im at, but given his wording, I suspect the emphasis/purpose of bosco's post is not that six people are saying "whatever," its rather that the host doesn't want to hear it.



And I still maintain that even if the anchor didnt want to hear it, its still only 6 people out of a country of millions. Bosco, like RM, speaks in absolutes. In RM's case, its everyone with a vagina. In Bosco's case, its anyone who doesnt swerve right. Are you Bosco's handler...his spokesman...a Bosco Whisperer? Because you seem to run along behind him quite a bit around here. With a pooper scooper...the size of a snow shovel.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:46:28 PM   
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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:48:19 PM   
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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:57:12 PM   
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It says MILLIONS, sweetie.

Two things. I read billions a couple of times but it does indeed say millions now. My brain, whatever.

I actually came back here to apologize for my comment once I realized that once upon a time I argued, successfully, with a physics professor that a midterm grade should not be a "B" because of a one decimal point error. My comment wasn't reasonable...sweetie.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 6:59:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its all good. If an argument of mine is critiqued, I just want make sure the interpretation is correct before Im criticized. Thats fair to ask

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 7:00:44 PM   
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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 7:03:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ninja, it was a misread of a word. Honestly not a biggie on my end. You've always been decent in reply even when you do not agree with me.

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 7:03:52 PM   
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i cant watch video where im at, but given his wording, I suspect the emphasis/purpose of bosco's post is not that six people are saying "whatever," its rather that the host doesn't want to hear it.



And I still maintain that even if the anchor didnt want to hear it, its still only 6 people out of a country of millions. Bosco, like RM, speaks in absolutes. In RM's case, its everyone with a vagina. In Bosco's case, its anyone who doesnt swerve right. Are you Bosco's handler...his spokesman...a Bosco Whisperer? Because you seem to run along behind him quite a bit around here. With a pooper scooper...the size of a snow shovel.


The video did all of the speaking, and it said far more about the alt left CNN howler hag than it did about myself or any other collarchat poster

That you think you have to attack me personally to distract from the point made says that you're just another dime-a-dozen howler troll, exactly like every other mindless little alt left poster on here

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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 7:06:31 PM   
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RE: The Left's War On Free Speech Continues - 8/25/2017 7:09:57 PM   
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Yes, "howler," "hag," "alt left bad...alt right good." Rinse, repeat, swish to the Right, repeat, times 1000.


Don't you just love the death of political correctness

I know I do


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