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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/28/2017 8:18:21 PM   
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3000 Texas National Guard, and New York air National Guard going down there now, All because the locals totally got this right? Neighbors helping neighbors? No need for government assistance?

Each has its role.

Lol...through sarcasm you make it sound as if you were right all along and others didn't understand. Yet, it's clear you didn't know what you were talking about at the beginning of the thread. Let me ask, is that a rhetorical devise to cover your ass or do you really believe it now?

FEMA speculates that 250,000 refugees will need housing and shelter. Have the locals begun building the shelters yet? Perhaps they ought to ask for federal help.

I'm astounded these morons can make a natural disaster a political issue and grounds for personal attacks.

I guess I should know better by now.



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You done now? Feel better? Did you cum?

Government can also mobilize faster and mobilize more resources at once in response to a disaster when that faster mobilization (and central point of organization) make a big difference.

But thanks for repeating your knee jerk "government bad" mantra.

Now wipe up that cum.



Check out who posted it.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 12:49:59 AM   
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Okay, not sure where to start here, after a long day.
Hundreds if not thousands of stranded residents are on social media,
begging for help!
YET, the mayor has STILL not issued a mandatory evacuation order across the city!
WTF ?

Up to 50 more inches may possibly still come!

WOW!

Emergency services as usual are stretched to the limit!

Before/After pictures of Hurricane Harvey devastation/Daily Mail of course
Damn I LOVE my DailyMail, say what you want, but during situations like this, the coverage is excellent.
Pictures and pictures, all in one source.

The coverage is riveting on t.v.
I have always had some fascination at looking at the devastation caused by natural disasters.
I can't stop looking in disbelief!
Its unreal, anyone else hooked on looking at this?
cars floating, homes under water, towns buried in water, people in canoes going down the street, people walking down the streets with water to their waists {Only GOD knows what is IN the water}
Incredible!

Hello Federal Government, we could use a lot more help down here!
We need "massive amounts" of help, thanks!




Many died in cars on flooded streets during the last major hurricane. Where will you evacuate 6 million people to? Where will you get the fuel for their cars? You do know that all the main roads and interstates have low areas that will be flooded, so where do you send the cars?

No, I think that the mayor may have made the correct choice in this case.


Aylee, many of these people could have been evacuated BEFORE the storm.
You don't think the United States is capable of getting most of these people out?
We mentioned earlier getting buses, vans, anything that moves and providing FREE transportation out of town.

Honestly, I DON'T know what the answer is/or should have been.
I just feel, we could have done better across the board.
I have no problem, accepting this is the best we could have done.
If this is THE best we can do in the United States of America, for OUR citizens, when we knew this was coming weeks in advance?
I am fine/and Jim dandy with it.


Marni, the coastal counties were evacuated, and actually, most of Houston doesnt need to be evacuated.. its certain areas that are hit badly, other areas are fine.. How do I know this? cuz in the last 2.5 years there have now been 3 "once in a hundred years" floods in Houston & I lived thru all three of them just fine (the power didnt even go out).. You are actually safest if you just stay at home (as long as you arent in one of the bad areas)...

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 8:01:46 AM   
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Before anyone else brings it up, apparently at least one church has locked its doors on refugees. I can't imagine what sort of thought process that entails. I guess a disaster like Harvey brings out both the best and the worst in people.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 8:06:09 AM   
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Are you talking about the mega church????
The last thing I heard was that they changed their minds after some bad press.
But they are denying they shut it...CNN news...http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/us/joel-osteen-houston-megachurch-criticism/index.html


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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 11:18:41 AM   
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3000 Texas National Guard, and New York air National Guard going down there now, All because the locals totally got this right? Neighbors helping neighbors? No need for government assistance?

Each has its role.

Lol...through sarcasm you make it sound as if you were right all along and others didn't understand. Yet, it's clear you didn't know what you were talking about at the beginning of the thread. Let me ask, is that a rhetorical devise to cover your ass or do you really believe it now?

FEMA speculates that 250,000 refugees will need housing and shelter. Have the locals begun building the shelters yet? Perhaps they ought to ask for federal help.

I'm astounded these morons can make a natural disaster a political issue and grounds for personal attacks.

I guess I should know better by now.



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You done now? Feel better? Did you cum?

Government can also mobilize faster and mobilize more resources at once in response to a disaster when that faster mobilization (and central point of organization) make a big difference.

But thanks for repeating your knee jerk "government bad" mantra.

Now wipe up that cum.



Check out who posted it.


Morons around this place (like him) are endlessly entertaining



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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 11:26:29 AM   
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FEMA asks "ALL CITIZENS TO GET INVOLVED" to help...


NEWSFLASH to Bounty, I have NEVER said that neighbors and friends should not help each other!
I THOUGHT that was common sense, people have ALWAYS helped each other to a certain extent.
MY original OP is NOT about neighbors helping others, which is nice, my post is about more help from
the federal, state and local governments.



Reminds me of Hurricane Andrew.
Just a few months before, there had been a bad storm in Bangladesh. Now these people have huge-assed "Yankee go home" signs all over the damn place.
Within 24 hours of the storm, there were massive amounts of aid headed that way because the hand that wasn't holding a "Yankee go home" sign was held out for a handout from Uncle Sam.

Along comes Andrew that hits American taxpayers anddddddd we waited. And waited. 4 days after the storm, Wash acknowledged that something had happened in S FL.

Remember kids. These are TAXPAYERS, not some bunch of mud natives hanging out in a desert that just happens to contain oil.
If we can't take care of our own citizens, what the ever loving FUCK are we doing overseas where we aren't wanted?



Oh yeah.............oil


But Will, this is what happens when we KNOW a Cat 4/serious flooding is coming!
It was predicted weeks ago!
The stupid mayor STILL has not issued a mandatory evacuation order.
What sort of emergency response can we REALISTICALLY expect if this country is ever
seriously attacked?

Where did you hear it was predicted weeks ago?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/26/timeline-hurricane-harveys-development.html

In 33 hours, it went from Tropical storm to C4 Hurricane. that isn't weeks.

— Thursday, 1 p.m., After quickly strengthening over the course of a day, Harvey becomes a hurricane, with maximum sustained winds of 85 mph (140 kph). It is about 325 miles (525 kilometers) southeast of Port O'Connor, and Texas coastal communities in its path are urged to complete their preparations. By midnight, it is upgraded to a Category 2 hurricane and is 220 miles from Port O'Connor, with sustained maximum winds of 100 mph (160 kph).



— Friday, 2 p.m., Harvey is upgraded to a Category 3 hurricane, with sustained maximum winds of 120 mph (195 kph). It is centered about 75 miles (120 kilometers) southeast of Corpus Christi. By 6 p.m., Harvey is a Category 4 storm just 45 miles from the city, with maximum sustained winds of 130 mph (215 kph).

— Friday, 10 p.m., Harvey makes landfall as a Category 4 hurricane when the eye of the storm comes ashore between Port Aransas and Port O'Connor, two communities on a spit off the coast of mainland Texas near Corpus Christi.


Heck Wednesday morning, it wasn't even a full blown Tropical Depression.

Whoever told you it was predicted weeks before is full of crap.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 11:55:34 AM   
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Before anyone else brings it up, apparently at least one church has locked its doors on refugees. I can't imagine what sort of thought process that entails. I guess a disaster like Harvey brings out both the best and the worst in people.

Who knows, maybe they ran out of food. Maybe you shouldn’t be so damn critical. I guess I’m not the only moron on here.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 12:11:47 PM   
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Before anyone else brings it up, apparently at least one church has locked its doors on refugees. I can't imagine what sort of thought process that entails. I guess a disaster like Harvey brings out both the best and the worst in people.

Who knows, maybe they ran out of food. Maybe you shouldn’t be so damn critical. I guess I’m not the only moron on here.

It was Osteen's megachurch. They hold 16,000+. Some lame excuse about flooding until photos of it high and dry appeared. they probably don't want the hoi polloi on their $100/yard carpet.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 12:13:08 PM   
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Before anyone else brings it up, apparently at least one church has locked its doors on refugees. I can't imagine what sort of thought process that entails. I guess a disaster like Harvey brings out both the best and the worst in people.

Who knows, maybe they ran out of food. Maybe you shouldn’t be so damn critical. I guess I’m not the only moron on here.

It was Osteen's megachurch. They hold 16,000+. Some lame excuse about flooding until photos of it high and dry appeared. they probably don't want the hoi polloi on their $100/yard carpet.

Christian values in their purest sense.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 6:34:07 PM   
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Are you talking about the mega church????
The last thing I heard was that they changed their minds after some bad press.
But they are denying they shut it...CNN news...http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/us/joel-osteen-houston-megachurch-criticism/index.html


Lucy? I have to admit that Joel "has" been one of my favorite "t.v. preachers", I am VERY disappointed in him.
I hope he has a good reason, to not practice what he preaches.
hummmm

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 6:36:36 PM   
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Will, I am not sure what news source you listen to.
In the DCA area, they were predicting a possible Cat 4, at least 6-7 days in advance.

It certainly was predicted WELL before Friday, because many people in that area got the hell out of dodge before Friday.
Why split hairs on this?
It was certainly predicted WELL in advance, and it was predicted to be fairly serious.



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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 6:42:50 PM   
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Hats off to this woman.
I get so tired of people in the media marginalizing, how many people facing
hardships and tragedies FEEL.
I am so glad this woman in the shelter, spoke honestly to the simple minded reporter.

Houston mother blasts reporter, "How the fuck do you think we feel?"




May the officer that drowned on his way to work, RIP.
Houston cop killed as he takes a different route to work

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 6:50:07 PM   
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Okay, not sure where to start here, after a long day.
Hundreds if not thousands of stranded residents are on social media,
begging for help!
YET, the mayor has STILL not issued a mandatory evacuation order across the city!
WTF ?

Up to 50 more inches may possibly still come!

WOW!

Emergency services as usual are stretched to the limit!

Before/After pictures of Hurricane Harvey devastation/Daily Mail of course
Damn I LOVE my DailyMail, say what you want, but during situations like this, the coverage is excellent.
Pictures and pictures, all in one source.

The coverage is riveting on t.v.
I have always had some fascination at looking at the devastation caused by natural disasters.
I can't stop looking in disbelief!
Its unreal, anyone else hooked on looking at this?
cars floating, homes under water, towns buried in water, people in canoes going down the street, people walking down the streets with water to their waists {Only GOD knows what is IN the water}
Incredible!

Hello Federal Government, we could use a lot more help down here!
We need "massive amounts" of help, thanks!




Many died in cars on flooded streets during the last major hurricane. Where will you evacuate 6 million people to? Where will you get the fuel for their cars? You do know that all the main roads and interstates have low areas that will be flooded, so where do you send the cars?

No, I think that the mayor may have made the correct choice in this case.


Aylee, many of these people could have been evacuated BEFORE the storm.
You don't think the United States is capable of getting most of these people out?
We mentioned earlier getting buses, vans, anything that moves and providing FREE transportation out of town.

Honestly, I DON'T know what the answer is/or should have been.
I just feel, we could have done better across the board.
I have no problem, accepting this is the best we could have done.
If this is THE best we can do in the United States of America, for OUR citizens, when we knew this was coming weeks in advance?
I am fine/and Jim dandy with it.


Marni, the coastal counties were evacuated, and actually, most of Houston doesnt need to be evacuated.. its certain areas that are hit badly, other areas are fine.. How do I know this? cuz in the last 2.5 years there have now been 3 "once in a hundred years" floods in Houston & I lived thru all three of them just fine (the power didnt even go out).. You are actually safest if you just stay at home (as long as you arent in one of the bad areas)...


tj Houston is the 4th largest city in the states, and I am sure MANY residents do not live in the area's that were effected.
I am speaking of the people who LIVE in the area's that were predicted to be hit with a CAT 4 hurricane/ and up to 50 inches of rain.

Many of the people in the area's that WERE hit, do not seem to be fairing well.
A man on the weather channel said his neighborhood looked "apocalyptic".
Last I checked over 10,000 people are in shelters, so those people probably would have been better off evacuating.
FEMA predicts 30,000 will be evacuated to shelters.

Hopefully, these people will not have to remain in shelters for a long period of time.

tj, overall, I am fairly pleased with the evacuation efforts, community efforts and the way this situation has been handled.
It will be interesting to see how the clean-up proceeds.
It has been predicted this is going to take months.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 8:14:34 PM   
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Folks, my youngest sister lives in Houston, in a very well off neighborhood.

A half block from her home is an area that is listed on flood insurance forms as an 800 year flood zone, which means it will be flooded once in 800 years. They tied their boat up at the stop sign at the intersection that is under three feet of water when they went to feed their pets today, and then moved all the furniture from the first floor to the second floor.

The amount of rain the area has received is considered a millennial flood, meaning once in a thousand years, or to put in very simple terms, there really aint no place in Houston that will be above water if it continues to rain like this for more than a day longer.

Harvey has set rain fall records for the continental US, and is closing in for the rainfall record for the entire US at 52 inches.

No Atlantic or gulf storm has had this much rainfall.

Oh, when sis left the house today, they took their pets out as well.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 8:19:32 PM   
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Folks, my youngest sister lives in Houston, in a very well off neighborhood.

A half block from her home is an area that is listed on flood insurance forms as an 800 year flood zone, which means it will be flooded once in 800 years. They tied their boat up at the stop sign at the intersection that is under three feet of water when they went to feed their pets today, and then moved all the furniture from the first floor to the second floor.

The amount of rain the area has received is considered a millennial flood, meaning once in a thousand years, or to put in very simple terms, there really aint no place in Houston that will be above water if it continues to rain like this for more than a day longer.

Harvey has set rain fall records for the continental US, and is closing in for the rainfall record for the entire US at 52 inches.

No Atlantic or gulf storm has had this much rainfall.

Oh, when sis left the house today, they took their pets out as well.



Once every 800 years?
This storm was biblical in so many ways, thanks for sharing.
I hope your sister's home is salvageable, with that amount of water damage.
Please let us know, I am picturing her moving everything to the second floor now.
Wow

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 9:00:26 PM   
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Here's a question. Say you want make a financial contribution to help the people of Texas. Where would your donation do the most good. At a charity like the Red Cross? Or do you think it would be better spent if it went to the IRS.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 9:56:57 PM   
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Good luck and best wishes from us both to you and your family Jeff. It sure makes our cyclones and tropical lows look kinda weak *smile*

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/29/2017 10:00:38 PM   
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Folks, my youngest sister lives in Houston, in a very well off neighborhood.

A half block from her home is an area that is listed on flood insurance forms as an 800 year flood zone, which means it will be flooded once in 800 years. They tied their boat up at the stop sign at the intersection that is under three feet of water when they went to feed their pets today, and then moved all the furniture from the first floor to the second floor.

The amount of rain the area has received is considered a millennial flood, meaning once in a thousand years, or to put in very simple terms, there really aint no place in Houston that will be above water if it continues to rain like this for more than a day longer.

Harvey has set rain fall records for the continental US, and is closing in for the rainfall record for the entire US at 52 inches.

No Atlantic or gulf storm has had this much rainfall.

Oh, when sis left the house today, they took their pets out as well.



Once every 800 years?
This storm was biblical in so many ways, thanks for sharing.
I hope your sister's home is salvageable, with that amount of water damage.
Please let us know, I am picturing her moving everything to the second floor now.
Wow



Last I talked to her, their home and six neighbors were still above the water level.

However, the other homes in the neighborhood, of which the lowest appraised value is $698,000 have not been so lucky.

Bosco, as I stated in another thread, the water of the gulf is warmer by about 3 degrees than average this year. I am not going to make the claim it is or is not related to climate change (global warming is only part of the problem, since some areas are getting warmer, and some a hell of a lot colder.)

That warmer than average western gulf fed Harvey and he in turn sucked it up like a calf on his mothers tit.

I am not going to buy into "humans are the sole cause of the phenomenon" either. Human activity helped create the problem, but the climate was doing weird things as far back as the seventies, and everyone noticed then but was at a loss as to why. The whole "humans are to blame" crap that has come out in the last decade is what is causing the controversy.

If you look at the past history of the planet, Earth should be entering a cooling period, if you go by the average warming cooling cycle, but mother nature does nothing on a schedule. If she did, Yellowstone would have blown up 50 thousand years ago, the arcadia mega thrust fault along the north west coast would have ruptured 50 years ago, and there would have been a minimum of an 8.0 quake in southern California ten years ago.

However, looking at the history of the earth's climate, everything that should have triggered even a small ice age that has happened in the last 150 years hasnt. And we have only been burning large amounts of fossil fuels at 'catastrophic' levels in the last 60 or so years.

So humans as the direct cause of climate change, I dont think so, but something is happening and the far left makes it humanity's fault. My personal opinion, is that yes, human activity has had some limited impact on climate.

However, as a ham radio operator, I can tell you that solar activity, which would affect climate in major ways, has been above average for over a decade. Hell I have shot skip on my FM rig that should have a range of less than 150 miles and gotten clear signals from as far away as Maine, and a couple of times had periods of clear signals from Europe, on FM, which is unheard of.

And the only thing that can cause that is a abnormally large amount of solar magnetic influence on the atmosphere. On AM and ssb, I have had clear convos with people in Australia, which is possible, but rare with the limited power of an amateur rig.

So, while every climate scientist is pointing fingers at pollution, I am asking the really stupid question, why cant the sun be adding to the problem? There is one team at NASA asking that question while three teams are pointing at people.



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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/30/2017 4:56:09 AM   
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Will, I am not sure what news source you listen to.
In the DCA area, they were predicting a possible Cat 4, at least 6-7 days in advance.

It certainly was predicted WELL before Friday, because many people in that area got the hell out of dodge before Friday.
Why split hairs on this?
It was certainly predicted WELL in advance, and it was predicted to be fairly serious.



My news source was NOAA. The US Weather Service.

Hurricanes aren't that simple. Your claim of "Weeks" is utter bull crap. As I showed, just a few days before it hit, it wasn't even a tropical depression.
You can't order an evacuation every time something "Might" happen. Do you remember "The boy who cried wolf"?
The exact path of a hurricane is never known until it hits. It's like a car driven by a blind drunk. You know what direction it will probably go but they sometimes just take off. This is why you will see 'probability maps' and a typical hurricane will have a map that MIGHT affect hundreds to a thousand or more miles of coastline.
Are you going to evacuate that much coastline every time a hurricane MIGHT hit?
Pretty soon, people will just say 'fuckit' and ignore all warnings.

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RE: Role of the Federal, State, Local governments durin... - 8/30/2017 5:43:37 AM   
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Some years ago I worked for a large flight school in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Any time a hurricane was even a possibility in South Florida all of the flight instructors were given a company credit card and were assigned a plane to fly out of the area. Any student or staff was welcome to ride along if they had no other means of evacuating the area. Most of the instructors were from the NYC or Chicago areas. When we evacuated I usually flew to visit my family in NJ. The school was fine with that. Anyone who rode along with me was put up at no cost at my parents' home.
From this past I am convinced that if one is living in a low-lying coastal area prone to flooding, then getting out of town is the only appropriate reaction if there is even a slight chance of a hurricane approaching. For reference as a young child I lived on Long Island and was home when several hurricanes made it that far North along the coast. Believe me, getting out beats sheltering in the basement, hoping it won't flood, while trees are being uprooted and thrown about directly outside the house, and large portions of the roof are ripped off. In our neighborhood in those days we had the only home generator because my sister had medical issues that made it prudent. That meant that after every storm we had the only house with power and most of the neighborhood was lodged in our place because we could cook. Long Island is basically a big sand bar, and in the 50s the telephone poles would blow down with any good wind and power went out. Hurricanes were a sure thing for power outages that lasted up to a week. No FEMA type aid ever showed up in those days after a storm. You just got out and cleaned up and fixed up on your own. If you were insured that was about all the outside help you got. Neighbors just pitched in and helped each other.
Despite having survived all of those storms, I would certainly choose evacuation over riding one out in place now. I have a lot of family in Houston as it's where my mother grew up. All of them left town two days before the storm. That's the only smart move for coastal residents. You can always come back alive and clean up afterward, even if it means bulldozing what's left and totally rebuilding.

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