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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

FR bump stocks aren't arms, they are an accessory. So there really isn't a reason they can't be limited. My understanding is that one of the reasons they weren't before is because they were an aid for disabled sportsmen.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
Watch Red Dawn. Either version is fine, but the Swayze one is better.

I've seen the Swayze one.
It's ridiculous... and has only become more ridiculous over time.

The US is not going to be invaded any time soon, despite what the RWNJs believe about white culture being overthrown by Muslims and illegals.
The moment China or Russia or wherever touched down, the US would be hitting them back as hard as they could with the largest military force in the world.

We are living in a world of proxy wars and capitalist plunderers, not the pre-WWII 'great powers' scenario.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
I don't know what area you live in, but I had a job that I loved and was good at, that just happened to make me a possible target for hate crimes. I made the decisions that were right for me, and I don't regret any of it. But you seem to think I'm obligated to let someone attack me before I make an attempt to stop it. And I don't believe that. Laws in my State agree with me.

My life matters to me a whole hell of a lot more than some drunken assholes' out to start trouble.

And carrying a gun was not my only way of dealing with any possible threats. I always had friends around, always had people I could trust close at hand when I was at any bar or club. And I went straight to them each time, and they kept me safe, when my drinks got spiked. One friend admitted to being jealous of how much free GHB I got. I learned the area I had to walk. I knew where people could hide, and where I could hide if I needed to. I kept my drinking to a minimum, unless I had a designated driver for the night. I got there way earlier than necessary when I was working, to get a closer parking spot. And when I was able to decide where I wanted to work, instead of taking any job I could get, I made sure it was better clubs, with more security and better parking available.

When you're being attacked, you don't get to decide what weapons are used against you, or how many people are attacking, or what kind of physical training they have.

I have honestly never been attacked by anyone since high school and have never not been able to defuse or avoid any potential conflict since then, but I am fairly certain that violence doesn't tend to start with someone pulling out a gun... it starts small and escalates. If you can control the situation, you have a better chance of defusing the tension.

Martial arts can defend against most kinds of attacks, including multiple assailants and knife attacks.
If the other person has a gun then you probably need a gun too but again, the other person/people having guns is part of why gun control seems so important.

You are so fucking funny in your ignorant bliss.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
I don't know what area you live in, but I had a job that I loved and was good at, that just happened to make me a possible target for hate crimes. I made the decisions that were right for me, and I don't regret any of it. But you seem to think I'm obligated to let someone attack me before I make an attempt to stop it. And I don't believe that. Laws in my State agree with me.

My life matters to me a whole hell of a lot more than some drunken assholes' out to start trouble.

And carrying a gun was not my only way of dealing with any possible threats. I always had friends around, always had people I could trust close at hand when I was at any bar or club. And I went straight to them each time, and they kept me safe, when my drinks got spiked. One friend admitted to being jealous of how much free GHB I got. I learned the area I had to walk. I knew where people could hide, and where I could hide if I needed to. I kept my drinking to a minimum, unless I had a designated driver for the night. I got there way earlier than necessary when I was working, to get a closer parking spot. And when I was able to decide where I wanted to work, instead of taking any job I could get, I made sure it was better clubs, with more security and better parking available.

When you're being attacked, you don't get to decide what weapons are used against you, or how many people are attacking, or what kind of physical training they have.

I have honestly never been attacked by anyone since high school and have never not been able to defuse or avoid any potential conflict since then, but I am fairly certain that violence doesn't tend to start with someone pulling out a gun... it starts small and escalates. If you can control the situation, you have a better chance of defusing the tension.

Martial arts can defend against most kinds of attacks, including multiple assailants and knife attacks.
If the other person has a gun then you probably need a gun too but again, the other person/people having guns is part of why gun control seems so important.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
You are so fucking funny in your ignorant bliss.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
While I won't go so far as to call it fucking funny, I will say that HB is fortunate to not ever have to worry about these things. As a woman, I have to be more cautious in some situations that an average sized man wouldn't. As jvov has pointed out, as a gay man he has safety concerns that many men wouldn't. The list goes on.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
Watch Red Dawn. Either version is fine, but the Swayze one is better.

I've seen the Swayze one.
It's ridiculous... and has only become more ridiculous over time.

The US is not going to be invaded any time soon, despite what the RWNJs believe about white culture being overthrown by Muslims and illegals.
The moment China or Russia or wherever touched down, the US would be hitting them back as hard as they could with the largest military force in the world.

We are living in a world of proxy wars and capitalist plunderers, not the pre-WWII 'great powers' scenario.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
I don't know what area you live in, but I had a job that I loved and was good at, that just happened to make me a possible target for hate crimes. I made the decisions that were right for me, and I don't regret any of it. But you seem to think I'm obligated to let someone attack me before I make an attempt to stop it. And I don't believe that. Laws in my State agree with me.

My life matters to me a whole hell of a lot more than some drunken assholes' out to start trouble.

And carrying a gun was not my only way of dealing with any possible threats. I always had friends around, always had people I could trust close at hand when I was at any bar or club. And I went straight to them each time, and they kept me safe, when my drinks got spiked. One friend admitted to being jealous of how much free GHB I got. I learned the area I had to walk. I knew where people could hide, and where I could hide if I needed to. I kept my drinking to a minimum, unless I had a designated driver for the night. I got there way earlier than necessary when I was working, to get a closer parking spot. And when I was able to decide where I wanted to work, instead of taking any job I could get, I made sure it was better clubs, with more security and better parking available.

When you're being attacked, you don't get to decide what weapons are used against you, or how many people are attacking, or what kind of physical training they have.

I have honestly never been attacked by anyone since high school and have never not been able to defuse or avoid any potential conflict since then, but I am fairly certain that violence doesn't tend to start with someone pulling out a gun... it starts small and escalates. If you can control the situation, you have a better chance of defusing the tension.

Martial arts can defend against most kinds of attacks, including multiple assailants and knife attacks.
If the other person has a gun then you probably need a gun too but again, the other person/people having guns is part of why gun control seems so important.

You are so fucking funny in your ignorant bliss.

While I won't go so far as to call it fucking funny, I will say that HB is fortunate to not ever have to worry about these things. As a woman, I have to be more cautious in some situations that an average sized man wouldn't. As jvov has pointed out, as a gay man he has safety concerns that many men wouldn't. The list goes on.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Look, I get that you're scared and a gun makes you feel safe... but does feeling safe mean you actually are safe? If you're afraid of getting jumped, why not take up self defense or a martial art? That would definitely make me feel safe-- knowing I can handle myself. Why go all the way to a weapon that could potentially be taken from you and used against you? Maybe if you have training... but I don't know how it's going to protect you if someone drops GHB into your drink.

I know I've never felt so unsafe that I needed a gun... ever. Maybe I just haven't been living the nightmare areas that everyone else seems to live in?

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Well if the almighty Nancy can't do it, then obviously it cannot be done by anyone, as he is the ultimate specimen of humanity.
I'm surprised with all of your incredible achievements in life, you never learned how to use a fucking internet search engine to discover what is and isn't possible.

Also, I have never laughed at you because you are never funny.
Stupidity isn't funny unless it's intentional.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Look, I get that you're scared and a gun makes you feel safe... but does feeling safe mean you actually are safe? If you're afraid of getting jumped, why not take up self defense or a martial art? That would definitely make me feel safe-- knowing I can handle myself. Why go all the way to a weapon that could potentially be taken from you and used against you? Maybe if you have training... but I don't know how it's going to protect you if someone drops GHB into your drink.

I know I've never felt so unsafe that I needed a gun... ever. Maybe I just haven't been living the nightmare areas that everyone else seems to live in?

Really, Dude? You're going to have to excuse me that I find this so funny. Since you probably don't get the joke, I'll give you a nice, <cough> hypothetical <cough> scenario to see if you might feel differently regarding that neat martial arts idea.

Let's say you were a 5'2" female in your mid-forties. Your very specific opponent stands a foot taller than you, has a body mass/weight advantage over you, and (just for fun) has had military combat training over various intervals for the last 15+ years. Maybe thrown in some other neat circumstances like it's a stalker-y kind of dude AND he knew where you lived?

How awesome are you feeling about that self-defense course now?

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Well if the almighty Nancy can't do it, then obviously it cannot be done by anyone, as he is the ultimate specimen of humanity.
I'm surprised with all of your incredible achievements in life, you never learned how to use a fucking internet search engine to discover what is and isn't possible.

Also, I have never laughed at you because you are never funny.
Stupidity isn't funny unless it's intentional.

You're so smart. Thank you for explaining that all of your experience and knowledge comes from Google. That adds to the laugh.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Look, I get that you're scared and a gun makes you feel safe... but does feeling safe mean you actually are safe? If you're afraid of getting jumped, why not take up self defense or a martial art? That would definitely make me feel safe-- knowing I can handle myself. Why go all the way to a weapon that could potentially be taken from you and used against you? Maybe if you have training... but I don't know how it's going to protect you if someone drops GHB into your drink.

I know I've never felt so unsafe that I needed a gun... ever. Maybe I just haven't been living the nightmare areas that everyone else seems to live in?

Really, Dude? You're going to have to excuse me that I find this so funny. Since you probably don't get the joke, I'll give you a nice, <cough> hypothetical <cough> scenario to see if you might feel differently regarding that neat martial arts idea.

Let's say you were a 5'2" female in your mid-forties. Your very specific opponent stands a foot taller than you, has a body mass/weight advantage over you, and (just for fun) has had military combat training over various intervals for the last 15+ years. Maybe thrown in some other neat circumstances like it's a stalker-y kind of dude AND he knew where you lived?

How awesome are you feeling about that self-defense course now?

Ummm... so this happened to you?
I am talking about myself here, not declaring that my experience is everyone's experience.

I would imagine being a glorified prostitute would invite some pretty dodgy people into your life, though... so okay, fine... do what you must.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Well if the almighty Nancy can't do it, then obviously it cannot be done by anyone, as he is the ultimate specimen of humanity.
I'm surprised with all of your incredible achievements in life, you never learned how to use a fucking internet search engine to discover what is and isn't possible.

Also, I have never laughed at you because you are never funny.
Stupidity isn't funny unless it's intentional.

You're so smart. Thank you for explaining that all of your experience and knowledge comes from Google. That adds to the laugh.

So not only are you the most incredible human being who ever lived, you're also more knowledgeable than the entire Internet.
Nice job, Nancy!

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
I would imagine being a glorified prostitute would invite some pretty dodgy people into your life, though... so okay, fine... do what you must.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
I get it, lol, submissive males = pretty dodgy people.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Ummm... so this happened to you?
I am talking about myself here, not declaring that my experience is everyone's experience.

I would imagine being a glorified prostitute would invite some pretty dodgy people into your life, though... so okay, fine... do what you must.

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ORIGINAL: BlackSinMaster

Here is where I am up too:
1. He took aim at a jet fuel tank and hit it twice. Jet fuel is almost impossible to ignite.
2. He tried to buy tracer rounds. These I believe would have ignited the jet fuel and I am thinking that is why he wanted them.
3. He amassed some 30 guns in less than one year.
4. His location could not have been compromised by even the most skilled Swat sniper
5. He fired for 9-11 minutes and also used a bump stock device. After a bit of research today I found out that would have rendered his aim and control very wonky.
6. He had 50lbs of explosives in his car, unprimed. Now given the extent of his planning I find it peculiar it was unprimed and not trapped with the boobies.

This is not a spree, or a man making his last stand, or grudge bearing bastard, or "saucy jack" notoriety, This is a man with a message standing against- but what?