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More to the point they didn't know where the fire was coming from.
The cops only found his position because the smoke detector was set off.

Would there have been no flash from the gun itself to see, then?

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if its fake news, debunk it with more than dribble, otherwise fuck yourself with a rusty screw

Excellent. You're not so bad with those images yourself.

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I'm totally all for keeping to the amendment, but I know we can have the amendment and not have unnecessary weapons at easy access.

I know I've pointed this out before, but you do realize that you don't actually live in the U.S., right? You just like to think so on here.

I do because the victims are not the people making the laws.

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So would be any law prohibiting firearms to repeat-offender violent crime felons. So would be the restriction of firearms to some mentally ill, etc. Or carrying a gun into a court room.

While we're at it, Howitzers or in fact all artillery are arms, RPGs and mortars are arms. etc.

The second amendment, as written, doesn't allow for these or any other considerations.

So I'll just carry my side weapon flame thrower into any damn battery factory or oil refinery I please, and don't bother me about it.

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I'm totally all for keeping to the amendment, but I know we can have the amendment and not have unnecessary weapons at easy access.

I know I've pointed this out before, but you do realize that you don't actually live in the U.S., right? You just like to think so on here.

I do because the victims are not the people making the laws.

WTF are you talking about?

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I'm totally all for keeping to the amendment, but I know we can have the amendment and not have unnecessary weapons at easy access.

I know I've pointed this out before, but you do realize that you don't actually live in the U.S., right? You just like to think so on here.

I do because the victims are not the people making the laws.

WTF are you talking about?

He stated that he didn't feel sorry for the victims in European terror because
their immigration policy makes it easy for terrorist to get in.
I said I can because the victims don't pass the immigration laws.

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Bump stocks, as used in Vegas, are a fairly recently marketed doodad. A bump stock isn't a modification of a weapon but a clip on accessory that provides a spring assist to a manual trigger pull. Specific legislation would have to be drafted to include those in a list of NFA items requiring special restrictions.

Or ... you could just hook your thumb into your belt loop.



Michael

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Maybe she's French? They say we a lot. They just spell it funny.

Oui. Which I'm pretty sure is part of the Morris Day & The Time song "Jungle Love". Oui oui oh.

Singapore

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I'm totally all for keeping to the amendment, but I know we can have the amendment and not have unnecessary weapons at easy access.

I know I've pointed this out before, but you do realize that you don't actually live in the U.S., right? You just like to think so on here.

I do because the victims are not the people making the laws.

WTF are you talking about?

He stated that he didn't feel sorry for the victims in European terror because
their immigration policy makes it easy for terrorist to get in.
I said I can because the victims don't pass the immigration laws.

I think you quoted the wrong post then, because this was me and Greta talking about her not being a US citizen.

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Where does it say in the second amendment "except for considerations in the fifth and fourteenth amendments"?

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Yet, in 200+ years, the Second Amendment has not been repealed nor amended. And any court case finding a defendant guilty of a felony constitutes the due process necessary to take away that defendant's rights (subject to appeals, of course).

Quote in the second amendment it says "except for due process infringement"?

You are the one insisting on absolutism here, and the bolded sentence contradicts that.

Covered in the Fifth Amendment, and a little in the Fourteenth.

And where in those amendments is the second amendment referenced?

There are also amendments which cover the welfare of society and pursuit of happiness*, etc., but they aren't stated in such absolute terms as the second, the latter point being what you keep going on about.

* "and the pursuit of happiness" is actually in the Declaration, presented as an inherent right, but several items in several amendments were written pursuant to that idea.

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The Constitution, and its Amendments, are a single document. What one Amendment giveth, another can taketh away.

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While it is inescapable to ignore the statement of "banning all guns would prevent at least some innocent people from dying," it also ignores the concept of "banning all guns would also allow some innocent people to die."

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It seems like his number of guns would have set off some red flags his CO might have had to address.

I don't mean you any personal offense. If you are using the term 'CO' to imply such a relationship as someone's Commanding Officer, I'm having difficulty grasping how you really think that works. Unless registration for firearms would be reported to a person's military association, (a frightening thing when considering an individual's privacy all on it's own) how do you propose this would work? Would you be suggesting that military personnel should have fewer individual rights than those not serving in the military?

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Watch Red Dawn. Either version is fine, but the Swayze one is better.

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I don't know what area you live in, but I had a job that I loved and was good at, that just happened to make me a possible target for hate crimes. I made the decisions that were right for me, and I don't regret any of it. But you seem to think I'm obligated to let someone attack me before I make an attempt to stop it. And I don't believe that. Laws in my State agree with me.

My life matters to me a whole hell of a lot more than some drunken assholes' out to start trouble.

And carrying a gun was not my only way of dealing with any possible threats. I always had friends around, always had people I could trust close at hand when I was at any bar or club. And I went straight to them each time, and they kept me safe, when my drinks got spiked. One friend admitted to being jealous of how much free GHB I got. I learned the area I had to walk. I knew where people could hide, and where I could hide if I needed to. I kept my drinking to a minimum, unless I had a designated driver for the night. I got there way earlier than necessary when I was working, to get a closer parking spot. And when I was able to decide where I wanted to work, instead of taking any job I could get, I made sure it was better clubs, with more security and better parking available.

When you're being attacked, you don't get to decide what weapons are used against you, or how many people are attacking, or what kind of physical training they have.

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The US is not going to be invaded any time soon, despite what the RWNJs believe about white culture being overthrown by Muslims and illegals.
The moment China or Russia or wherever touched down, the US would be hitting them back as hard as they could with the largest military force in the world.

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The US is not going to be invaded any time soon, despite what the RWNJs believe about white culture being overthrown by Muslims and illegals.
The moment China or Russia or wherever touched down, the US would be hitting them back as hard as they could with the largest military force in the world.

The USA, China and Russia are all working together, or at least the people who behind the screens are really in power, are. If they want the USA to be invaded, the USA will be invaded. And after the purge in the USA the other one will vanquish the invader and save the USA and be hailed as liberator.

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I might be back later with a longer answer greta, maybe in the meantime someone else will chime in with their own version of it.

but before I go, and this has been hinted at and even explicitly said before: if someone wants to kill large groups of people, they will find a way and ultimately, theres nothing that can be done to prevent that.

So by your logic, we shouldn't restrict individuals from engaging in biological warfare if they want to. Because someone will always find a way, right?

Yours is the argument of a functional moron. It is so incredibly stupid it could only be made by someone whose IQ hovers in the 70's.

You have my pity.

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That's the fatalist attitude of the chrisians who are thinking Christ will be showing up soon anyways... maybe even help it along..? (The Second Coming)

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Yesterday morning tragedy unfolded in Virginia as a reporter and camera man for a local television station were gunned down by a man intent, according to his claims, of inciting the race war Dylan Roof had so badly wanted. Last night, in Sunset, LA, a man killed a police officer with a gun then stabbed three women. One of the women died. The gunman from the morning died. The gunman from the evening was captured.

Immediately calls for gun control rang out, but there is thus far no evidence that more laws would have prevented these tragedies [sound familiar?] — unless guns are altogether to be banned, something the Supreme Court has declared unconstitutional.

The reality is that evil exists and we will never legislate it away. [low IQ!] Bad things will always happen. Evil people will do evil things. We saw evil in Charleston. We saw evil yesterday. Unfortunately, too many are too blind to evil. Those who have eyes to see can see the evil in Planned Parenthood decapitating children and sending their heads in the mail making sure their eyes are closed. Those who have eyes to see can see the evil in the collapse of families and the rise of dysfunctional young people without a relationship with one parent or the other.

Evil exists. It exists in degrees. It is sometimes obvious and sometimes not. But it is here in the world. The only cure for evil is Jesus Christ. As our society becomes more secular and hostile to the things of faith, it will only get worse. Only the acts of evil will more and more come not in the form of violence but the in the form of conduct deemed acceptable and beneficial thought it is not.

Evil is always going to exist. It is never going to be exterminated by us. It will not be legislated away. But it will be exterminated on that final day. Until then all of us should work to be better neighbors with each other and those who have eyes to see and ears to hear should not shy away from pointing out the barbarous when the world itself turns a blind eye.

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After any tragedy, people seek comfort in their beliefs to try to make sense of the horrors of the world.

NFL quarterback Carson Wentz sought comfort in his faith and encouraged others to do the same over Twitter. “So much hate and evil. So sad. The World needs Jesus in a bad way. Praying for all those affected in Vegas,” Wentz wrote.

The response from the Left was as disappointing as it was predictable. Leftists cried out that there is no God, that Wentz’s “fiction” is getting in the way of the solutions they propose: education, gun control, and more.

One Twitter user, whose handle is Tristin, wrote, “This is the dumbest possible reaction to what happened.”

The response to Wentz’s tweet is just more proof that many on the Left without religion take comfort, not in God, or even more traditional American values, but in their political ideology and government.

The cries for gun control after a tragedy don’t wait for facts — or even for proof, sometimes, that the attacker used a gun! The Federalist noted that after the Ohio State University attack committed in 2016, leftists called for gun control. The attacker used a vehicle and a knife.

The calls for gun control leave an overwhelming majority of the nation out in the cold [maybe they are low IQ too??]. Leftists pretend that those who don’t agree with them on gun control must not care, even as offerings of prayers and compassion are intended to comfort, acknowledge, and support all of them.

One has to wonder if celebrities, media elites, and angry college students are really unaware that those who think differently from them are still good people. Are we not all created equal by God?

In some cases, it seems these people truly no longer look at those on the other side of the political spectrum as humans. Consider the CBS executive who, according to the New York Post, could not sympathize with the victims of the Las Vegas shooting, because “country music fans often are Republican gun-toters.”

CBS fired the executive quickly. But, how does anyone become so senseless and unfeeling?

Yes, there are many religious people who think gun control is the answer to this and other tragedies. But, many of them can be credited with responding to tragedies first with compassion and faith in God, and then with political policy and ideological agenda items.

NFL quarterback Carson Wentz said, “So much hate and evil. So sad. The World needs Jesus in a bad way. Praying for all those affected in Vegas.” Do you take comfort in your faith in times of crisis?

If all Americans responded with faith first, the country would be stronger and more compassionate. Wentz is right; everyone needs Jesus.

To those atheists and agnostics on the Left who will not take shelter in Jesus, they should at least take comfort in Jesus’ values. Compassion, forgiveness, and the strength of the Spirit enable healing after a tragedy.

Although Christians don’t agree with those calling for gun control, they still empathize and feel a need to protect those from the horrible tragedy. After all, that is the example Jesus set for all, and it is an example everyone should try to live up to.

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from a couple years ago (some other fellow with an "IQ hovering in the 70s")

"We Will Not Legislate Away Evil"

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Yesterday morning tragedy unfolded in Virginia as a reporter and camera man for a local television station were gunned down by a man intent, according to his claims, of inciting the race war Dylan Roof had so badly wanted. Last night, in Sunset, LA, a man killed a police officer with a gun then stabbed three women. One of the women died. The gunman from the morning died. The gunman from the evening was captured.

Immediately calls for gun control rang out, but there is thus far no evidence that more laws would have prevented these tragedies [sound familiar?] — unless guns are altogether to be banned, something the Supreme Court has declared unconstitutional.

The reality is that evil exists and we will never legislate it away. [low IQ!] Bad things will always happen. Evil people will do evil things. We saw evil in Charleston. We saw evil yesterday. Unfortunately, too many are too blind to evil. Those who have eyes to see can see the evil in Planned Parenthood decapitating children and sending their heads in the mail making sure their eyes are closed. Those who have eyes to see can see the evil in the collapse of families and the rise of dysfunctional young people without a relationship with one parent or the other.

Evil exists. It exists in degrees. It is sometimes obvious and sometimes not. But it is here in the world. The only cure for evil is Jesus Christ. As our society becomes more secular and hostile to the things of faith, it will only get worse. Only the acts of evil will more and more come not in the form of violence but the in the form of conduct deemed acceptable and beneficial thought it is not.

Evil is always going to exist. It is never going to be exterminated by us. It will not be legislated away. But it will be exterminated on that final day. Until then all of us should work to be better neighbors with each other and those who have eyes to see and ears to hear should not shy away from pointing out the barbarous when the world itself turns a blind eye.

https://www.redstate.com/erick/2015/08/27/we-will-not-legislate-away-evil/