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ORIGINAL: Danemora

My opinion is that I actually agree with the backlash Ellen Degeneres is receiving. I agree that had a man tweeted a pic of him staring the same way Ellen was, he'd be raked over the coals. Just because Ellen Degeneres is a lesbian and a female, it doesnt give her a free pass. I am a female and have a more liberal view. So its not all leftists or liberals feel the way Bosco expressed.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Danemora
I am a female and have a more liberal view. So its not all leftists or liberals feel the way Bosco expressed.

nothing is really monolithic, so we are either consigned to understanding that labels often speak in a general way, or doomed to have to always use modifying phrases like "I know not every liberal thinks like this but..."

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ORIGINAL: Danemora
Thats exactly my point. You and I share vastly differing views, but you arent an obnoxious little shit about it. Bosco...on the other hand...itty bitty cock trying to be a big dick. The phrase "all hat and no cowboy" fits when describing little dude. You may know that not every X feels Y, but little dude B isnt so fortunate unfortunately. Sadly B just shit cans anyone who doesnt match his viewpoint as "leftist trash," "liberal howlers," and other such general jackassery.

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ORIGINAL: sissificationsub

Trump says sex harassment claims are fake news, but there are corroborators

“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.”
— President Trump, remarks to reporters, Oct. 16, 2017

Jacqueline Alemany of CBS News: “Obviously, sexual harassment has been in the news. At least 16 women accused the president of sexually harassing them throughout the course of the campaign. Last week, during a news conference in the Rose Garden, the president called these accusations ‘fake news.’ Is the official White House position that all of these women are lying?”

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Yeah, we’ve been clear on that from the beginning, and the president’s spoken on it.”
— exchange on Oct. 27

As Alemany noted, 16 women have accused Trump of sexually harassing them. While the president dismisses this as “fake news,” the problem for the White House is that some of these women have produced witnesses who say they heard about the incident at the time — long before Trump made his political aspirations known.

Such contemporaneous accounts are essential to establishing the credibility of the allegation because they reduce the chances that a person is making up a story for political purposes. In the case of sexual allegations, such accounts can help bolster the credibility of the “she said” side of the equation. Often, a sexual assault will happen behind closed doors. The contemporary corroborators can explain what they heard at the time and whether the story being told now is consistent with how the story was told years earlier. This does not necessarily mean the allegation is true, but it does give journalistic organizations more confidence to report on the allegation.

Below is a summary of the corroborators provided by three of the women who have accusations, drawn from a fact check written during the presidential campaign. That fact check also detailed the witnesses who backed up claims of sexual accusations against former president Bill Clinton — who, like Trump, insisted the women accusing him were not telling the truth.

Readers can judge for themselves.

Kristin Anderson
Her allegation: While at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:

Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.



Natasha Stoynoff
Her allegation: While interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue down her throat. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:

Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.


Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.

Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”

Liza Hamm, part of a “tightknit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.

Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.



Rachel Crooks
Her allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:

Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her immediately about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”

Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”


As we all know President Trump has the utmost respect for women bleeders tidy bints. And if he offended thewomen bleeders tidy bints then I am sure he in no way embarked on a massive public smear campaign against them ,and in no way reduced his daughter to tears, nor did he parade out “Randy Bill’s alleged victims on national TV, or his women to tell the baying mob he (trump) is an utter gentlemen with the women bints.

Trump defends crude language from 2005 as "locker room" talk

Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows

Trump is very strange with his daughter

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ORIGINAL: sissificationsub

I know you will not read this one as you right wing nutters are blinded in ways of those brainwashed "mooselambs" you speak so highly off so I picked one clip.
Trump is very strange with his daughter


He is getting away with this (below) do none of you Americans care?

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ORIGINAL: sissificationsub

Trump says sex harassment claims are fake news, but there are corroborators

“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.”
— President Trump, remarks to reporters, Oct. 16, 2017

Jacqueline Alemany of CBS News: “Obviously, sexual harassment has been in the news. At least 16 women accused the president of sexually harassing them throughout the course of the campaign. Last week, during a news conference in the Rose Garden, the president called these accusations ‘fake news.’ Is the official White House position that all of these women are lying?”

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Yeah, we’ve been clear on that from the beginning, and the president’s spoken on it.”
— exchange on Oct. 27

As Alemany noted, 16 women have accused Trump of sexually harassing them. While the president dismisses this as “fake news,” the problem for the White House is that some of these women have produced witnesses who say they heard about the incident at the time — long before Trump made his political aspirations known.

Such contemporaneous accounts are essential to establishing the credibility of the allegation because they reduce the chances that a person is making up a story for political purposes. In the case of sexual allegations, such accounts can help bolster the credibility of the “she said” side of the equation. Often, a sexual assault will happen behind closed doors. The contemporary corroborators can explain what they heard at the time and whether the story being told now is consistent with how the story was told years earlier. This does not necessarily mean the allegation is true, but it does give journalistic organizations more confidence to report on the allegation.

Below is a summary of the corroborators provided by three of the women who have accusations, drawn from a fact check written during the presidential campaign. That fact check also detailed the witnesses who backed up claims of sexual accusations against former president Bill Clinton — who, like Trump, insisted the women accusing him were not telling the truth.

Readers can judge for themselves.

Kristin Anderson
Her allegation: While at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:

Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.



Natasha Stoynoff
Her allegation: While interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue down her throat. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:

Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.


Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.

Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”

Liza Hamm, part of a “tightknit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.

Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.



Rachel Crooks
Her allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:

Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her immediately about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”

Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”


As we all know President Trump has the utmost respect for women bleeders tidy bints. And if he offended thewomen bleeders tidy bints then I am sure he in no way embarked on a massive public smear campaign against them ,and in no way reduced his daughter to tears, nor did he parade out “Randy Bill’s alleged victims on national TV, or his women to tell the baying mob he (trump) is an utter gentlemen with the women bints.

Trump defends crude language from 2005 as "locker room" talk

Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows

Trump is very strange with his daughter

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
i say "oh no comrades" for a few reasons, the most prominent of which is a fairly good sized handful of collectivists here have given me grief, and repeatedly so, over using the site.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
i say "oh no comrades" for a few reasons, the most prominent of which is a fairly good sized handful of collectivists here have given me grief, and repeatedly so, over using the site.

I am sorry that you are such a victim, bounty.
It's so sad.

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So let me get you in your birthday suit
It's time to bring out the big balloons

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I think Ellen had really bad timing posting the picture, but I don't see anything wrong with it.

As far as the words in the tweet, they're taken directly from Katy's song Happy Birthday.

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So let me get you in your birthday suit
It's time to bring out the big balloons

Sure, the tweet can be taken as double entendre, or literally. That's how a lot of words and phrases work in the English language, thanks to euphimisms being used in America. But since the words weren't aimed at any of us, I think it's up to Katy how she chooses to interpret them and the pic.

But I am quite certain that Ellen won't be the last celebrity called out for being inappropriate in the wake of the Weinstein allegations.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Pffft there is nothing sexual or inappropriate about Ellen's pic with Katy.

You know how to tell if a lesbian is sexually harassing you? She shows up with a UHaul.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
With that in mind, do you think it would be just another day if president Trump (or any Republican) acted similarly