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Wayward5oul -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 2:58:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


le sigh

I'll do this ONE MORE TIME

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Anyway, my point was about the motivation behind one being willing to sign a NDA, in the first place. I wonder how altruistic their motives are, at that point?






Michael

Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!




WhoreMods -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 3:04:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


le sigh

I'll do this ONE MORE TIME

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Anyway, my point was about the motivation behind one being willing to sign a NDA, in the first place. I wonder how altruistic their motives are, at that point?






Michael

Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!


I just love that people are claiming that she's a gold digger who's making stuff up in pursuit of a handout after she's turned down a million dollars hush money...




wmsub4YOU2use -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 3:17:56 PM)

Trump is very strange with his daughter

Donald Trump Nearly Casually Remarks About Incest with daughter Ivanka

What a guy eh! Trust him witth your own daughter?

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Trump says sex harassment claims are fake news, but there are corroborators

“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.”
— President Trump, remarks to reporters, Oct. 16, 2017


Jacqueline Alemany of CBS News: “Obviously, sexual harassment has been in the news. At least 16 women accused the president of sexually harassing them throughout the course of the campaign. Last week, during a news conference in the Rose Garden, the president called these accusations ‘fake news.’ Is the official White House position that all of these women are lying?”

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Yeah, we’ve been clear on that from the beginning, and the president’s spoken on it.”
— exchange on Oct. 27

As Alemany noted, 16 women have accused Trump of sexually harassing them. While the president dismisses this as “fake news,” the problem for the White House is that some of these women have produced witnesses who say they heard about the incident at the time — long before Trump made his political aspirations known.

Such contemporaneous accounts are essential to establishing the credibility of the allegation because they reduce the chances that a person is making up a story for political purposes. In the case of sexual allegations, such accounts can help bolster the credibility of the “she said” side of the equation. Often, a sexual assault will happen behind closed doors. The contemporary corroborators can explain what they heard at the time and whether the story being told now is consistent with how the story was told years earlier. This does not necessarily mean the allegation is true, but it does give journalistic organizations more confidence to report on the allegation.

Below is a summary of the corroborators provided by three of the women who have accusations, drawn from a fact check written during the presidential campaign. That fact check also detailed the witnesses who backed up claims of sexual accusations against former president Bill Clinton — who, like Trump, insisted the women accusing him were not telling the truth.

Readers can judge for themselves.

Kristin Anderson
Her allegation: While at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:

Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.



Natasha Stoynoff
Her allegation: While interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue down her throat. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:

Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.


Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.

Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”

Liza Hamm, part of a “tightknit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.

Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.



Rachel Crooks
Her allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:

Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her immediately about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”

Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”


As we all know President Trump has the utmost respect for women bleeders tidy bints. And if he offended thewomen bleeders tidy bints then I am sure he in no way embarked on a massive public smear campaign against them ,and in no way reduced his daughter to tears, nor did he parade out “Randy Bill’s alleged victims on national TV, or his women to tell the baying mob he (trump) is an utter gentlemen with the women bints.

Trump defends crude language from 2005 as "locker room" talk

Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows

Trump is very strange with his daughter







DaddySatyr -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 3:35:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!



That wasn't my point, either, but obfuscate all you want. I guess that's the level of intelligent discourse you can bring to the topic.



Michael




JVoV -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 3:40:44 PM)

Then what the hell was your point?




Wayward5oul -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 4:12:32 PM)


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Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!



That wasn't my point, either, but obfuscate all you want. I guess that's the level of intelligent discourse you can bring to the topic.



Michael


I know what your point was. And it was as ignorant as the point I stated. Read the information posted in this thread.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 4:25:27 PM)


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I'm wondering how much she told the writers & cast of Charmed at the time. It seems now like her character Paige had a ton of bosses & co-workers that were sexually harassing people, and she'd be the one to take care of it.

Robert Rodriguez said he wrote the Grindhouse part for her after he heard the rape story and that Weinstein blackballed her, just to back her. So at least that was because she told the writer/producer. You're observation may be on point.

I wonder if Rose McGowan being blacklisted by Weinstein coincided with Herman MunsterMarilyn Manson dumping her for Dita von Teese? Not sure if the dates match or not, but it'd be another blow against Herman's claims to be a champion of free speech if he dumped her for a replacement model because her career was being nobbled by somebody Herman wouldn't have dared say a word against.



You want to really read up before you make a total fool out of yourself, nope, not true that MM ditched her for Dita, but I guess if you want to smear somebody, any flimsy excuse will do, nevermind time lines...

Btw M didn't ditch her, she broke up the engagement and he was in fact quite heartbroken over it.




WhoreMods -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 4:31:28 PM)


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I'm wondering how much she told the writers & cast of Charmed at the time. It seems now like her character Paige had a ton of bosses & co-workers that were sexually harassing people, and she'd be the one to take care of it.

Robert Rodriguez said he wrote the Grindhouse part for her after he heard the rape story and that Weinstein blackballed her, just to back her. So at least that was because she told the writer/producer. You're observation may be on point.

I wonder if Rose McGowan being blacklisted by Weinstein coincided with Herman MunsterMarilyn Manson dumping her for Dita von Teese? Not sure if the dates match or not, but it'd be another blow against Herman's claims to be a champion of free speech if he dumped her for a replacement model because her career was being nobbled by somebody Herman wouldn't have dared say a word against.



You want to really read up before you make a total fool out of yourself, nope, not true that MM ditched her for Dita, but I guess if you want to smear somebody, any flimsy excuse will do, nevermind time lines...

Btw M didn't ditch her, she broke up the engagement and he was in fact quite heartbroken over it.

I'll have to pretend I give a fuck some time.
(I don't, which is why I asked how the dates matched up.)




Nnanji -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 5:22:43 PM)


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hah taking the piss out of your mental midgetry is too easy
Oh and Ive hated trump since the 70s, but please grasp for more

LMAO, you don't get it.




Nnanji -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 5:24:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!



That wasn't my point, either, but obfuscate all you want. I guess that's the level of intelligent discourse you can bring to the topic.



Michael


For the record your point was clearly stated. It's just not a shiny object to hate is why the lefty loons are confused.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 5:29:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!



That wasn't my point, either, but obfuscate all you want. I guess that's the level of intelligent discourse you can bring to the topic.



Michael


For the record your point was clearly stated. It's just not a shiny object to hate is why the lefty loons are confused.

I'm not saying that his point wasn't clearly stated. I understood it. I just thought it was bullshit.




Nnanji -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 5:33:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Hey, maybe she even planned it all to get the money! You know, trick Weinstein into raping her, and then offering her money to keep his crime silent. I can't believe he fell for that!



That wasn't my point, either, but obfuscate all you want. I guess that's the level of intelligent discourse you can bring to the topic.



Michael


For the record your point was clearly stated. It's just not a shiny object to hate is why the lefty loons are confused.

I'm not saying that his point wasn't clearly stated. I understood it. I just thought it was bullshit.

It was a legitimate question. If you understood the topic so well thought you thought it was BS then you could have answered it instead troll.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 5:39:35 PM)

I did answer it. DS understood it. He didn't particularly care for it, but he understood it. So what's your problem?




Nnanji -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/1/2017 6:04:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

I did answer it. DS understood it. He didn't particularly care for it, but he understood it. So what's your problem?

Apparently none.




JVoV -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/2/2017 5:01:39 AM)

Well, let's be clear. DS is victimbashing. McGowan had reached the point where she felt she had no other options legally. She had no information, not even whispers, about other victims.

A financial settlement isn't the same as justice, but it's something. And a lot of times, it's all that can be done.

McGowan was a victim, and not responsible for Weinstein's actions at any point in his life, including AFTER he raped her.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/2/2017 5:05:50 AM)

Fucking ludicrous to me.




JVoV -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/2/2017 5:29:18 AM)

Another more recent act of sexual harassment, and victim backlash:

A note was attached to a script meant for Rose McGowan, saying "black (or dark) form fitting tank that shows off cleavage (push up bra encouraged)". She went public with it. Her talent agency fired her.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/2/2017 5:37:17 AM)

My two favorite comments
1. Is a man ever told to show up with his crotch enhanced?

2. What is my cleavage's motivation?




stef -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/2/2017 11:03:42 AM)


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Well, let's be clear. DS is victimbashing. McGowan had reached the point where she felt she had no other options legally. She had no information, not even whispers, about other victims.

A financial settlement isn't the same as justice, but it's something. And a lot of times, it's all that can be done.

McGowan was a victim, and not responsible for Weinstein's actions at any point in his life, including AFTER he raped her.

Something else that the apologists are missing; it took decades of complaints from multiple women for Weinstein to finally get his. One man comes forward about Kevin Spacey and in less than a week, Spacey's career is torpedoed.

That's pretty fucked up.




JVoV -> RE: Pussies Grab Back! (11/2/2017 12:41:56 PM)

There have been at least 3 allegations of Spacey posted in the thread thread about Spacey already.

Here's #4, and probably the worst of all.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.html

He had a brief sexual relationship with a 14yo boy, until he tried to rape him. This was before the Rapp incident.




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