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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 2:22:54 AM

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 2:47:45 AM

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Expound and explain, then. Especially about how you got from Ed(whatever) to 'ronnie,'

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No.

Of course not!

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 3:39:29 AM

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What flies completely over your and every other so-called "political conservative"'s head is that I don't give a flying fuck about your ideology once you have made clear that by such ideology you don't give a flying fuck about family.

I feel the need to point out here that I am NOT saying that those not having a family are 'less pious,' howevermuch 'the church' tried to make it that way, nor certainly would there be any implication that homosexuals are 'not in the plan' as to what I consider 'family' or not.

My mother's "queer" (what they were called in those days) cousin was one of my favorite uncles. An effing giant to this 3-4 yr. old at the time. He was still an effing giant at my mother's wake. Actually referred to, strictly, as "first cousin, once removed." But same generation as uncle, so he was "uncle" to me. Fun guy, always had this slide rule in a slot/holster on his hip, before even calculators, much less PCs or lap tops (he was a math professor). Only child, and his parents loved him a lot, even knowing how he was, as did most every other family member who knew that wonderful guy. Played piano almost as good as his mom, who played in public and taught for years, and sang almost as good as his dad, who made many appearances by that talent.

He is still a practicing Catholic, an absolute believer. The church in Macon loves the hell out of his big voice at mass.

-Family values-.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 4:38:14 AM

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I haven't been to mass in 25 years, and am not a christian even before then, but at least I got some real sense of 'family values' which I saw from everyday experience meant that my mother was going through a ton of hell because of all the popes insistence on "have babies!"

even before I saw that I had a very strong sense of a complete lack of ability on your part to definitively state anything along the lines of "this is the catholic (or most catholic) way".

like so many of the rest of the comrades here, the moniker "smug pompous ass" is fitting.

it may be unfortunate that the father did not get to donate his kidney, but there is no way the result of the kid getting one nevertheless is "less catholic" or that the story still doesnt have, despite the death of a donor, a very strong sense of a happy ending.

if anyone in the catholic church is making that argument, id like to see it---or rather, more importantly, even if they are, how that translates into a justifiable condemnation from a heathen to the point of accusing one to be a "fake catholic" when someone is happy the kid got what he needed.

good luck on that...or we can avoid that and just agree right now there is something seriously wrong with you.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 6:05:24 AM

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Yea I don't know why you are attacking DS point that it's good news when it is good news.

I don't think it's anti-family, more about red tape and inflexibility of the law, and not wanting to give special treatment to this situation, because the father disobey the law.

Yeah, he is being something of a colossal ass about this. I don't understand it either.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 6:14:41 AM

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You cheered every Trump attack upon American citizens that weren't white enough (which is all he did).

It's pretty weird. I am south chinese, thus I am very dark skin. Like those chinese folks that work in rice fields and are very dark and tanned. I am almost like a Mexican in my colour, the darker looking ones.
Me being against illegal immigrants has nothing to do with skin colours since Mexicans have blonde blue eyes and white skin too. Hell if most of the illegals are coming from Canada. I am gonna have a problem with Canadians too.

Illegal Immigrants aren't American Citizens.

And many Muslims from places like Turkey and Lebanon are white skinned too. Very very white.

I am
1) Against Illegal Immigration, I think it's a crime
2) Against Islam, I think it's more of a dangerous political system than a peaceful religion

Somehow, folks like to blame it on skin colour, rather than face the real issues.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 6:43:57 AM

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Somehow, folks like to blame it on skin colour...

greta, that is a sine qua non of the left.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 7:04:49 AM

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Yea I don't know why you are attacking DS point that it's good news when it is good news.I don't think it's anti-family, more about red tape and inflexibility of the law, and not wanting to give special treatment to this situation, because the father disobey the law.

Yeah, he is being something of a colossal ass about this. I don't understand it either.

In what way? for defending the rights of family? of the father?

Read my posts again, and point out wherein I said I was in any way 'against' the outcome for the baby?

Have you been in a cave or have you otherwise never seen the ongoing outburst of "righteous indignation!" about 'irresponsible fathers'?

Hire a grown-up with reading comprehension skills to explain the meaning for you.

And explain why I'm being -such an ass- in pointing out the wrong in somebody doing time (at least, any more than 60 days) for three effing -misdemeanors- in the first place? Answer that!

Unless you are one of those who that thinks the US will dig itself out of its stink by way of a bunch of maudlin "feel good" stories cherry picked here and there?

No wonder this country has gone to shit.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 7:21:56 AM

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like so many of the rest of the comrades here, the moniker "smug pompous ass" is fitting.

Well, now that you've so fittingly explained your incessant use of the term 'comrade' in such exemplary fashion . . .

"Anybody with IQ above 78."

"Smug pompous ass" being held in reserve for those with IQ above 88.

You wouldn't know any more what a Catholic is than you know a 'comrade' is, jackass.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 7:37:24 AM

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ALL I pointed out was that if somebody goes so far as to claim he doesn't give a shit about the parents, then he is a lying hypocrite motherfucker if he claims to 'care' anything at all about their child.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 8:10:32 AM

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ALL I pointed out was that if somebody goes so far as to claim he doesn't give a shit about the parents, then he is a lying hypocrite motherfucker if he claims to 'care' anything at all about their child.

I think Black Elk said something of that sort, though with less swearing.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 8:25:07 AM

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I did a lot less swearing, or actually none at all, or never actually heard it at all in the first place, when in my first six years of school.

Oh, the irony.

The popes keep saying "have more babies! Not ME who has to suffer! Ha ha!"

But once the 4th or 6th kid comes along, the parents can't afford parochial school any more . . .

So now the kids come home foul-mouthed as protestants. Just trying to blend in, that's all.

Getting such grief for not knowing what the word "fuck" meant at age 12 (yes, I was actually stupid enough to ask) was my introduction there. They'd had it for 2-4 years already.

I felt so behind.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 9:31:46 AM

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Hell if most of the illegals are coming from Canada. I am gonna have a problem with Canadians too.

I would only ship back tj44.

Lucy Lastic and all the rest would be more than welcome here, by my account. I don't care if legal or not. You might notice that I don't care how much I agree with them or not, and they couldn't be much more stupid than Americans in the first place as far as political thinking. But they would be productive in some way, which is all that matters. Any post by tj44 makes me feel like she's wearing a bomb jacket in our country. Sorry, Gretta, but we have enough of you already, we don't need more regressionism from immigrants like you. I know you're not asking, and thank you for that. I don't think it's half bad living in a country which outlaws chewing gum on subways in the first place.

But anyway . . .

Did you notice how Trump said he was going to reduce the number of illegals, then turns around and changes the law to where we now have more illegals?

That is just SO fucking REPUBLICAN.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 9:44:50 AM

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"We think poor people are their own problem, so we will underpay them and overjail them and underfund their education, so as to create more poor people."

But it's still 'their own doing,' from what I hear.

That is just SO fucking REPUBLICAN.

We bomb the fuck out of the middle East and then cry about the consequences.

That is just . . .

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 9:51:29 AM

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And explain why I'm being -such an ass- in pointing out the wrong in somebody doing time (at least, any more than 60 days) for three effing -misdemeanors- in the first place? Answer that!

Yeah. How strange. They actually do put people in jail for violating parole when they continue to break the law.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 10:04:58 AM

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I haven't been to mass in 25 years, and am not a christian even before then, but at least I got some real sense of 'family values' which I saw from everyday experience meant that my mother was going through a ton of hell because of all the popes insistence on "have babies!"

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even before I saw that I had a very strong sense of a complete lack of ability on your part to definitively state anything along the lines of "this is the catholic (or most catholic) way".

I did 'alter boy' for three years, in Latin. Three of my grand aunts were nuns, two of my grand uncles were priests. So tell me what YOU have to say to ME about what I know about the Catholic faith or not.

Jackass.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 10:06:40 AM

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And explain why I'm being -such an ass- in pointing out the wrong in somebody doing time (at least, any more than 60 days) for three effing -misdemeanors- in the first place? Answer that!

Yeah. How strange. They actually do put people in jail for violating parole when they continue to break the law.

The really pathetic thing is that if it wasn't for all of the sentimentality about poor little kidney boy the people who spent this thread making excuses for the kid's father would have been all for his imprisonment.
Do they think there's no fucker else locked up anywhere who has kids?
(I wonder if they'll be so keen on the kid once he's old enough to vote and still expecting to receive gubermint hand outs paid for by the wealth creators, rather than freeloading scum like himself, come to that.)

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 10:16:42 AM

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And explain why I'm being -such an ass- in pointing out the wrong in somebody doing time (at least, any more than 60 days) for three effing -misdemeanors- in the first place? Answer that!

Yeah. How strange. They actually do put people in jail for violating parole when they continue to break the law.

And . . . so, this means just WHAT to his daughter who needs a kidney? who needs her father?

Well, there we are with the Republican 'family values thing'. Keep -artificially- and -arbitrarily- raising the threshold of what constitutes crime in the first place, and then lower the threshold for what constitutes jail time.

BTY, if you are a woman wearing a nightgown while driving a car in California, you should be in jail now and have your child removed from your province. That law is still on the books.

We can and DO completely make shit up all day long about what is 'crime' or not. It was a crime to harbor slaves, if you insist on sticking to whatever is 'crime' at this juncture.

READ some American history, sweetheart.

But DON'T even think of giving me any crap about 'family values' if your claim is that "The Law" supercedes any of that.

Just. Don't.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 11:00:27 AM

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And . . . so, this means just WHAT to his daughter who needs a kidney? who needs her father?

Do you think you could at least get the gender of the child involved right?

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Well, there we are with the Republican 'family values thing'. Keep -artificially- and -arbitrarily- raising the threshold of what constitutes crime in the first place, and then lower the threshold for what constitutes jail time.

Baloney. The parole thing isn't all that difficult. A person gets to remain out of jail as long as they fulfill their conditions of parole. It's really not that difficult of a thing to refrain from ripping people off while carrying a weapon. Something this kid's father couldn't manage to do even knowing he would be needed for this surgery. It's kind of why he missed the appointment on October 28. He was too busy out "making mistakes."

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BTY, if you are a woman wearing a nightgown while driving a car in California, you should be in jail now and have your child removed from your province. That law is still on the books.

Dude, if I'm driving in any state while wearing a nightgown, I'd better have a fever of 106 and headed for an ER. Unless I'm completely out of my head, I'll put pants on.

Do you have any other crap that you have to reach so far up your own tail to rant about on this thread? It's been beyond ridiculous.

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We can and DO completely make shit up all day long about what is 'crime' or not. It was a crime to harbor slaves, if you insist on sticking to whatever is 'crime' at this juncture.

I'm pretty sure theft is still a crime. I'm even willing to stick my neck out and say that getting caught ripping people off three times in the past two years is something people should go to jail over.

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READ some American history, sweetheart.

But DON'T even think of giving me any crap about 'family values' if your claim is that "The Law" supercedes any of that.

Just. Don't.

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RE: This Is A Tragedy - 11/24/2017 11:34:57 AM

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And . . . so, this means just WHAT to his daughter who needs a kidney? who needs her father?

Do you think you could at least get the gender of the child involved right?

Yeah! I might! Sorry, had it right the first time, I think.

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Well, there we are with the Republican 'family values thing'. Keep -artificially- and -arbitrarily- raising the threshold of what constitutes crime in the first place, and then lower the threshold for what constitutes jail time.

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BTY, if you are a woman wearing a nightgown while driving a car in California, you should be in jail now and have your child removed from your province. That law is still on the books.

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We can and DO completely make shit up all day long about what is 'crime' or not. It was a crime to harbor slaves, if you insist on sticking to whatever is 'crime' at this juncture.

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READ some American history, sweetheart.

But DON'T even think of giving me any crap about 'family values' if your claim is that "The Law" supercedes any of that.

Just. Don't.

I didn't say jack sh^t about family values. I don't have one bit of problem saying I'm more concerned about the innocent child than I do for the screw up father who couldn't bother obeying the law when his kid needed him. The Catholic Church wasn't making him steal. It wasn't the military doing him wrong. He wasn't being forced into criminal activity because of wearing nightgowns or not knowing the definition of the word .

I don't think the dad's chickenshit minor 'criminality' is of much consequence to society, here. his absence from faterhood, as DEMANDED BY SOCOIETY might or might not be another matter.

Do you ever walk down 'poor streets'? I hope you don't, and I'm not there anymore for decades myself. But I learned something in any case.

"But did you ever consider that maybe the dude's just a thief?"

What? A thief with out permission from the SEC? I think that's obvious.

The guy could have made at least a $20 mil bonus stealing home equity and foreclosing houses of retirees, and been well rewarded.

But that doesn't bother you, it seems.

Obviously, the guy should have known himself that petty theft is anti-family, whereas predatory lending and grand theft of national wealth is, seemingly, 'pro family' by Republicans. Nothing 'criminal' about THAT, right?

So yeah, if that makes you feel better.

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