vincentML
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First, you have political parties that build election campaigns around specific segments of the population to gain their votes, which on the surface sounds like a good idea, until you stop and look at the total party agenda,
The problem with your premise, Jlf, is that it is about 200% WRONG.
Neither the established portions of the Democrat Party, the Republican Party, nor the Whig Party favored desegregation of the public schools in the 19th Century. From what I can recall, the Whigs favored free voting in the newly Constituted territories as to whether they were free or slave. The Southern Democrats favored the new territories be entered as slave states. Only the "Radical" Republicans who caucused with Lincoln were in favor of freeing the Blacks if some manner could be found for peacefully returning them to Africa. Please let me know if I am wrong on this. Four parties ran candidates for the presidency in 1861; they were wide apart in their positions.
Before anyone mentioned segregation the Southern Block declared their secessionist intentions and the Union was broken.
The Civil War was about the right to secede not about the right to keep slaves.
The slaves were freed by force of arms. In 1865 the South was economically devastated and there were few jobs to be had. This problem was partly solved by the establishment of penal farms and chain gangs on the roads. The 13th Amendment allows for punitive slavery. During the second half of the 19th Century the Union the Union armies become preoccupied with driving the Native Americans onto Reservations and battling the Mexicans and Spaniards for Land. So we ended with a nation that included Alaska, California, Texas, Puerto Rico, etc.
Where did the doctrines of Segregation and Social Equality come from? Not from any war. The notion that the State could erect a public school system that was "separate but equal" came from a Supreme Court ruling in 1896 on
Plessy v. Ferguson, and the opposite ruling came from Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas, in 1954, which held that separate was inherently unequal when it came to applying the State's resources. And Brown was followed by other cases that forced school teachers to count the racial numbers in the classrooms. You, see Jlf, the Parties had nothing to do with it until they stepped in after the Courts ruled. You are very wrong and your are spreading your misinformation among the great unwashed.
One other thing I wanted to mention here. When I pointed to the studies of the minimum/mandatory sentencing guide lines some of you bellowed in your usual crude fashion that I had not read the studies. I then pointed out that despite attempts at measuring regression of a few factors none of them countered that the sentencing of black men was harsher than any other groups. No one contradicted me. You went silent with your boorish complaints that I had not read any of the underlying material. Because, you were unfamiliar with the underlying material.
You are a disappointing lot, you bunch. It is one thing to read your foul language and name calling but at least try to have truth and comprehension on your side. It is a bloody shame how little you know of American history.
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vML
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ MLK Jr.
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