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“A Texas sheriff says he could throw the book at a driver over his limited vocabulary and dislike for President Trump.

“F--- Trump and f--- you for voting for him,” reads the sticker on the back of a GMC Sierra broadcast via Facebook by Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls.

What the message lacks in wit it apparently made up for in offense, with Nehls saying he had received “numerous calls regarding the offensive display” from citizens hoping that the driver’s foul mouth and truck can be washed clean by the law.

The sheriff southwest of Houston put out a call for information, saying that a prosecutor had already told him that she could bring disorderly conduct charges.”

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Free speech/expression has had certain restrictions for some time. Obscenity has long been one of those restrictions. Unfortunately, it's never been very well defined, relying upon "community standards". In effect, this puts the definition of obscenity where (I believe) it belongs; in the hands of the public to decide.

Quite frankly, I find people putting bumper stickers like this on their vehicles to be presumptuous as well as vulgar since they have NO "RIGHT" to decide to what my children and grandchildren will be exposed.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Time for the traditional "...but Obama!", "...but Hilary!" riff:
If this sheriff has ensured that there are also no bumper stickers with obscenities directed at the former president or the democrat nominee who stood last year to be found anywhere on his patch, then this probably is a genuine concern about obscenities on cars where the thin skinned and oversensitive might see them. If not, then it's selective enforcement for partisan reasons, which is rather less acceptable.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Free speech/expression has had certain restrictions for some time. Obscenity has long been one of those restrictions. Unfortunately, it's never been very well defined, relying upon "community standards". In effect, this puts the definition of obscenity where (I believe) it belongs; in the hands of the public to decide.
Quite frankly, I find people putting bumper stickers like this on their vehicles to be presumptuous as well as vulgar since they have NO "RIGHT" to decide to what my children and grandchildren will be exposed.

Time for the traditional "...but Obama!", "...but Hilary!" riff:
If this sheriff has ensured that there are also no bumper stickers with obscenities directed at the former president or the democrat nominee who stood last year to be found anywhere on his patch, then this probably is a genuine concern about obscenities on cars where the thin skinned and oversensitive might see them. If not, then it's selective enforcement for partisan reasons, which is rather less acceptable.

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Overview of Texas Disorderly Laws

Statutes
Texas Penal Code, Title 9, Chapter 42

Various types of unruly or obnoxious conduct may violate Texas state law. Police may use a disorderly conduct charge when a person is disturbing the peace or behaving in a disruptive manner, but is not presenting any serious danger to the public. Disorderly conduct may be viewed as a "catch-all" crime. See FindLaw's Public Safety Violations to learn about related offenses.

Examples:
Using abusive, profane or vulgar language in a public place
Making an offensive gesture in a public place that could incite unruly conduct
Chemically creating an unreasonable odor in a public place
Abusing or threatening a person in a public place
Making unreasonable amounts of noise in a public place or near a private residence that is not your own
Fighting in public
Displaying or discharging a firearm in public
Exposing one's self in public
Looking or "peeping" into a private area that is not your own such as hotel rooms, homes, restrooms, or shower stalls...

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/texas-law/texas-disorderly-conduct-laws.html

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Time for the traditional "...but Obama!", "...but Hilary!" riff:
If this sheriff has ensured that there are also no bumper stickers with obscenities directed at the former president or the democrat nominee who stood last year to be found anywhere on his patch, then this probably is a genuine concern about obscenities on cars where the thin skinned and oversensitive might see them. If not, then it's selective enforcement for partisan reasons, which is rather less acceptable.

I would call out anyone that had "Fuck" and either of the names you mentioned. My issue isn't with a political statement.

I would be on board with something like: "Trump is an idiot and so is anyone that voted for him". That's fine. My objection is exposing people (especially young ones) to certain words to which they (or their parents) don't want to be exposed.

And the word IS the issue. In some states, if I chop off a finger on the job and yell: "Oh, Fuck!" I am technically guilty of sexual "harassment" in the work place. In the states to which I'm referring, harassment is defined as " ... any word of a sexual nature that makes someone uncomfortable"

Also: Objecting to public vulgarity doesn't make anyone "thin-skinned", it makes them unwilling to allow others to impose their moral standards on themselves or their loved ones.

Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Fair enough. You'r trying to be consistent, which should always be encouraged.

Thank you for your approval. I was sweating this one.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Fair enough. You'r trying to be consistent, which should always be encouraged.

Thank you for your approval. I was sweating this one.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
You're so rarely consistent about anything that you should be congratulated when you manage it.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
You're so rarely consistent about anything that you should be congratulated when you manage it.

Yes. I tend to see shades of grey instead of black and white. I recognize that ALL accused "crimes" have particulars to which I wasn't a witness.

I also recognize that people, closer to the incidents know more than I and I am not willing to assume that the sheriff in this case is in any way inconsistent, merely because I disagreed with this small snippet into his career.

I know that's a radical bent, but I tend to be out on the fringes, frequently.

But now, you have me curious: Would you display the bumper sticker described?

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well in the actual code, obvious by its omission, is the printed word. I think for some people, all of that is protected and rightly so because it is after all, are just words printed on a paper or whatever.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well in the actual code, obvious by its omission, is the printed word. I think for some people, all of that is protected and rightly so because it is after all, are just words printed on a paper or whatever.

You're right, of course. Much like the little card that the (Texas?) law tried to insist be handed out at abortion clinics, telling women about adoption and other pro-life alternatives?

Just words on a paper (well, large index card but ...), not harming anyone, but the pro-infanticidists jumped all over it.

I'm not breaking new ground, here. Printed words are just another form of speech/expression and should adhere to the same strictures as oral forms.

I already made the case about words, especially those with sexual connotations, falling under certain "community standards" decency laws, but put that to the side and my main issue is/was/will always be: It is NOT your "right" to expose my children/grandchildren to words I would rather they weren't exposed to.

Unless you want me to come preach the gospel to your little ones?



And here, we have the rest of the story. This wasn't some little bumper sticker

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