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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 8:27:04 AM   
ExSteelAgain


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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 12:22:58 PM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		I think I made it to line 3 before moving on. I find pontification to be boring.

You're not describing who you are. You're not describing who you're looking for. For me: I'd look at that and just see a guy pounding his own chest and move on.

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 12:28:36 PM   
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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 1:10:31 PM   
MasterLon


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Status: offline 		DanielsHeart,

   Finally, FINALLYYYYYY, Some one that reads and understands my profile, You have made me very happy,  Your Master or Dominant I am sure is very proud of you and rightfuly so, I would one day like to meet you both and shake the hand of your dominant,  He must be one of the very best dominants out there....

                                                             MasterLon

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 1:14:05 PM   
KatyLied


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quote:

respect, honor, and loyalty is paramount in living this lifestyle.


Those should be paramount regardless of lifestyle choice.


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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 1:14:18 PM   
MasterLon


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Status: offline 		OsideGirl, If that is the limit of your ability, To not be able to see beyond your own nose,  Then I gladly  say,  Please do move on and enjoy someone else.       Be happy and safe...

                                                                   MasterLon

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:06:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterLon

OsideGirl, If that is the limit of your ability, To not be able to see beyond your own nose,  Then I gladly  say,  Please do move on and enjoy someone else.       Be happy and safe...

                                                                 MasterLon


LMAO.. if that is NOT the pot calling the kettle black.. I dont know what is..

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:08:55 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: MasterLon

DanielsHeart,

  Finally, FINALLYYYYYY, Some one that reads and understands my profile, You have made me very happy,  Your Master or Dominant I am sure is very proud of you and rightfuly so, I would one day like to meet you both and shake the hand of your dominant,  He must be one of the very best dominants out there....

                                                            MasterLon

You know there's something wrong when you set up a system where you are always right.

If someone agrees with you = they get it and you're right
If someone disagrees with you = they just don't get it and you're still right

The hubris involved in that is pretty dazzling.  And the droll flattery just because someone agrees with you is really demeaning.

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:16:17 PM   
raiken


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterLon

DanielsHeart,

Finally, FINALLYYYYYY, Some one that reads and understands my profile, You have made me very happy,  Your Master or Dominant I am sure is very proud of you and rightfuly so, I would one day like to meet you both and shake the hand of your dominant,  He must be one of the very best dominants out there....

                                                           MasterLon

You know there's something wrong when you set up a system where you are always right.

If someone agrees with you = they get it and you're right
If someone disagrees with you = they just don't get it and you're still right

The hubris involved in that is pretty dazzling.  And the droll flattery just because someone agrees with you is really demeaning.


i have to agree with LA on this one.  Although on the lighter side, Master is also always right, so i have found more creative ways to express when i believe he is wrong. *grinz
 
 
 

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:20:13 PM   
KatyLied


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Master is also always right


<sarcasm>.Thank goodness we have infallible Masters.  I don't know how I would survive life otherwise!</sarcasm>




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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:30:13 PM   
OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: MasterLon

OsideGirl, If that is the limit of your ability, To not be able to see beyond your own nose,  Then I gladly  say,  Please do move on and enjoy someone else.       Be happy and safe...

                                                                  MasterLon


I am enjoying someone else. Happily. For over 6 years now.

I see far beyond my own nose. I see that every relationship defines itself, so your expounding for two pages makes little difference. I have enough vision to understand that every relationship evolves and grows and can't always be judged and ruled by a bunch of black words on a white background somewhere in cyber space.

You wrote two pages of lecture on what you believe represents D/s. You asked for opinions. You got them.

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:35:50 PM   
MistressDeAnnya


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ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach

Ok - so you know how to read either books and/or websites, and reguritate the portions that somehow struck your psyche. Big deal.
 


hizgeorgiapeach (and some others) was right- alot of that on Lon's Profile is from websites but sorta rewritten.
 
First thing about his profile that hit me was 'someone has done his research and wrote a nice essay on it, sounds kinda like what I copied and posted in MY journal. hmmm ..'
 
One site has some of his words from whats called  "The Masters Creed" and to show a few parts that are copied word for word on his profile... heres the link
http://www.dorsetbdsm.com/BDSMCREEDS.html
which states:
Above all else he cherishes his slave, in the knowledge that the gift she gives him is the greatest gift of all. He is demanding and takes full advantage of the power given to him, but knows how to share the pleasure that comes from that precious gift.
and:
To win his slave's mind, body, spirit, soul, and love, he knows he must first win her trust
and:
He is in control of himself first and foremost, so that he may control others.

There was a sort of a condensed version going around that someone gave to me and I posted it in my journal awhile back, because its the way I also beleive. It came to me as "I As A Domme"
I happened to be looking at this dorset bdsm site the other day and seen that it could have came from there.. or The Masters Creed had been posted there.
Sounds like other pieces of his profile came from other sites too, one perhaps being castlerealm.com. It rings a bell.
 
Lon says:
My rules, That I follow,  Are not from any website, Nor from a book, This (my rules) are from my heart and my mind. Now someone could have copied and pasted to a site,  Its there for all to see, But it is me,  The way I believe...I wrote this for a slave,  That I was interested in over 36 years ago...After she died, I  kept the letter and the words close to my heart....
 
So, while they are some very nice rules to live by and Im glad to see others agree like Lon,
I dont deny that I didnt write that in my journal nor do I make out as tho I wrote the beautiful stuff myself. I wish I did.
 
Mistress DeAnnya
p.s. I dont even wanna look up anymore, or put his "terms" in search ..like "The 5 Truths"..but I see there is such thing listed in a search. :) Most being 5 truths about photography and software...relationships and 5 Truths to alot of other stuff.. anywhooooo :) Id say thier rules to live by, but not all are ones he created and wrote.


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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 2:38:02 PM   
Mercnbeth


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The hubris involved in that is pretty dazzling.  And the droll flattery just because someone agrees with you is really demeaning.


And being the distrusting skeptical person that I am, when someone who just joins the site and on the same day makes a first post supporting someone, I suspect it's an "alter-ego" post to try and solicit some support.

However, based upon the location given in your profile, you can put your rules and ideas out their for discussion with a group of lifestyle people fairly easily. This link will take you to the South Bay group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/south_bay_munch/

This group has two meetings a month where people get together and have a good time. Experience levels range from one day to a lifetime. No group I've ever encountered is more friendly and honest. They won't wait until you leave to talk about you or your ideas. They'll be glad to debate their merits and provide opinions. Most of all they are a fun group to be around.

I think trying to convey a lifestyle attitude in a profile or in any written form is almost impossible. As long as words have more than one definition you never know which one your audience uses when they read them. Better to give enough information to create an interest and leave some questions regarding specifics. Documenting specifics preemptively tends to exclude when people have "worst case" scenarios in mind for safety sake, if for no other.

Anyway, hope to see you at a Munch soon. beth and I would love to chat with you and share our "rules".

Arguing about the merits or lack of merits of your profile won't bring you any closer to your goal. If you are expending energy explaining yourself you are taking energy and effort away away from what you seek. Regardless of the words or you ideas about the ultimate definition of your relationship; the only way to get together with people in real life is to meet real live people.

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RE: Ettiquette, knowledge and mentors - 7/31/2006 2:43:07 PM   
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I don't really think you fleshed out your point very well.

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 3:05:44 PM   
WhipTheHip


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  It sounds to me like we have a tough crowd here. I started reading the guy's rules and
expected to find a jerk, but his rules made it sound like he had a lot of concern, love and
respect for his sub.  From what I see other Doms write, they don't seem to be so caring.
I would think subs would commend him for the way he claims to treat them. 

   I, too, thought the subs here were not getting what the guy was trying to say. 
Surely, he said nothing that deserved the kind of bashing he received.   So, he didn't
accept everyone's criticism., that is his perogative.  When you ask people's opinion,
you don't have to accept it, espcially if it doesn't make sense to you and sounds
overly harsh.

   I wish I didn't have to disagree with Lucky Albatross, because I'd die to spend one
night with her.  She has got to be the most beautiful femlae I have ever seen.  She, also,
sounds super intelligent and super logical, though in this instance I think she is wrong.

  The guy asked for criticism, and got some.  Some of the criticism he accepted, some
he rejected.   He felt that many missed what his post seemed to imply about his
personality and his character.    I agree. 

    I just read his post because I wanted to see what other doms around here were like--
to size up my competition so to speak.  I hoped the guy would come off as a jerk, but
each line I read made him sound like a decent Dom, instead of a jerk.

    He posted his rules figuring he would get mostly good reviews.  I don't think
anyone posts anything to get put-down after put-down.   I am always being
asked to review people's writings.  Most of the time, the writing is awful.  But
I know how much everyone's words mean to them.  I know people feel very
hurt when you criticize their writing.  When people ask you to critique their
words, they are really looking for affirmation, not a harsh critique.   So, I am
gentle in my criticism, so I don't wound gratutiously another's ego.  Yes, there
is a lot of ego and hubris in people's words.  I've never met a person who
wasn't proud of their wordcraft, even if their writing was utterly juvinile
and sophomoric. 

I am not saying some of the criticism given was not justified, but there is
a gentle, constructive way to criticize, and a hurtful way to criticize.  Too
many people feel important by putting other people down, because it makes
them feel superior.  In a way, I guess I doing the same with this post.

Meanwhile, "hubris," "droll"--those are pretty nice words. 

Let's try to be nicer to each other.  We are all into bdsm, which means
we should be a little more understanding than the average bear, and
a little less judgmental.

--Michael 

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 3:11:22 PM   
Alumbrado


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Status: offline 		He posted 'his' rules?  
Or he borrowed the work of others, has claimed to be the originator after that was pointed out, and is playing childish 'I'm too smart for you' games?

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 4:07:52 PM   
MasterLon


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Status: offline 		LuckyAlbatross,
      Because there is someone that understands my profile as I have written it, Yes, That makes me happy, But I see that for you, One that does not understand it, Makes it all wrong. We each see things in a different light, You see your world as right for you. Kindly, Let me see my world, As right for me. You seem to be angry,  Because I praise someone for their opinion,   That I think deserves it..Instead you think it better that I praise you?? Why?? You who can not understand what I have written, Instead you show anger and distrust...Very curious....But, Thank you for your opinion as it is...

                                                                     MasterLon

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 4:11:27 PM   
MasterLon


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      Thank you for your opinion, I hope that you both will be very happy for the rest of your lives...

                                                                     MasterLon

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 4:15:29 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: MasterLon

LuckyAlbatross,
     Because there is someone that understands my profile as I have written it, Yes, That makes me happy, But I see that for you, One that does not understand it, Makes it all wrong. We each see things in a different light, You see your world as right for you. Kindly, Let me see my world, As right for me. You seem to be angry,  Because I praise someone for their opinion,   That I think deserves it..Instead you think it better that I praise you?? Why?? You who can not understand what I have written, Instead you show anger and distrust...Very curious....But, Thank you for your opinion as it is...

                                                                    MasterLon

Funny as I've not said anything about your original post at all.  So I'm not sure how you can say I do or do not understand it.

What my post was in reply to was your attitude of "if you agree with me, then you understand me and thus deserve my praise but if you disagree with me then you misunderstand me and thus deserve my scorn."

That's not a mark of a man who respects intelligence and differing opinions- its the mark of someone who wants to be pandered to.

In fact your reply here to me pretty much solidifies that anything you perceive as unpandering to you, you interpret as the person simply "not getting" what you are saying and thus not important to discuss.  Again, it's a convenient way to make you always right.

Oh and the anger?  More like amusement.

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RE: some of the rules I follow - 7/31/2006 4:19:52 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
  I wish I didn't have to disagree with Lucky Albatross, because I'd die to spend one
night with her.  She has got to be the most beautiful femlae I have ever seen.  She, also,
sounds super intelligent and super logical, though in this instance I think she is wrong.

The fact that you think I base who I sleep with because of who agrees with me is in itself fairly demeaning.

We all know I base who I sleep on by how horny I am and the money I can get for it. (OK not every time)

quote:

I hoped the guy would come off as a jerk, but
each line I read made him sound like a decent Dom, instead of a jerk.

To me it sounds like a walking cliche lacking in any real substance and is designed to catch and assuage the eye of every doe eyed naive newbie who walks by.

Which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's not really the best character one would hope for.

quote:

Let's try to be nicer to each other.  We are all into bdsm, which means
we should be a little more understanding than the average bear, and
a little less judgmental.

--Michael 


No it doesn't.  Being judgemental is a necessary skill for mature adults to have, and one which we should all hone and perfect as much as possible.  If people used their judgement better, we'd have a lot less heartbreak than we see around here.

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