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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:38:59 PM   
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There is a discernable difference betwen mastering one's own destiny and callously exploiting others to further it.
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Honestly verbalized intent to "exploit" is the best you can hope for; what you get most of the time is an elaborate game intended for the same purpose in the end...  We are all trying to attain what we want.   Some people sell selves cheaply, and some people marry first.   M 

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:39:44 PM   
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So if being a whore is so empowering,why are so many still under the control of male pimps?


Because theyre dumb whores?  Ya see being a whore in and of itself doesnt make you empowered. It just makes you a whore.  Havent you been paying attention?  You got well-dressed whores and sloppy whores, crack whores, and slave whores, master whores and shoe whores. You have whores who whore with class and whores who dont.  You have whores who think theyre better than other whores. You have proud whores and shamed whores.  You have whores who cloak their whoredom in bdsm mastery, you have whores who cloak it in being a wife.  You have smart whores and dumb whores.  Smoking whores and non smoking whores. You have whores who cant earn a living any other way, then you have whores who whore simply cuz they love whorin.  You have whores who like being called whore and whores who dont.  You have street corner whores and high priced whores. You have male whores and female whores. Nice whores, nasty whores.  Theres so much diversity in whoredom that everyone can have the freedom to be whatever kind of whore they want and non-whores can decide which whore type they want to pay.  Its called equal opportunity whoredom.  Isnt being a whore great?  Its the root of financial security, its empowerment, its life!   Whoredom!  Its whats for dinner!

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:41:50 PM   
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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:46:10 PM   
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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:51:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		 ^ 5 goes to the Oone stating they are dumbwhores I must say I concur there ~WEL~  as fer Homestead no need fer the seriousness unless Yyou are the Oone degrading Wwhores / Wwoman. Lighten Up  Respectfully Deviant Qi{LH}

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:55:41 PM   
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So if being a whore is so empowering,why are so many still under the control of male pimps?


I think that once you get away from 8th avenue in NYC, you'll find that most whores are not under the control of male pimps. The stereotype of the streetwalker with a pimp is an anachronism. Escort services tend to be run by women, former escorts themselves, and they hire drivers/bodyguards to serve the protection function that street pimps once did. Most of the professional full-time whores I knew (in NYC and DC) were independent and hired their own protection, and earned very nice six-figure salaries tax free that allowed them to retire by 30. I would say they were definitely empowered.

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/10/2006 11:58:46 PM   
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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:03:49 AM   
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So if being a whore is so empowering,why are so many still under the control of male pimps?


I think that once you get away from 8th avenue in NYC, you'll find that most whores are not under the control of male pimps. The stereotype of the streetwalker with a pimp is an anachronism. Escort services tend to be run by women, former escorts themselves, and they hire drivers/bodyguards to serve the protection function that street pimps once did. Most of the professional full-time whores I knew (in NYC and DC) were independent and hired their own protection, and earned very nice six-figure salaries tax free that allowed them to retire by 30. I would say they were definitely empowered.


Ah yes, acquired wealth by way of tax evasion.  Now theres something you could teach your kid on career day!

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:07:09 AM   
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Where did THAT come from?  It's not true.  "Virgo" means exactly what we mean by "virgin," as in "virgo intacta."


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The etamology of the word 'virgin' ...was not 'virgin' as it is perceived today...but a 'woman not under a male's control' ...


 
Me suggests you do some research on the origins LaM, you'll find virgin was simply 'young girl' as in not beholden to a man, something you became when you weren't virgo intacta ... like a wife ... and it is true, virgin was a woman not beholden, ergo under a man's control ...a woman of independent means ... hence a whore ... she became one, not because she had sex, but by virtue of not been under male rule..see my opening post... incidently, did anyone else know that 'girl' was the word for 'child' and 'child' was in fact an unborn 'girl' ..
 



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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:08:51 AM   
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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:23:29 AM   
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What is ridiculous is the way most cheap men with the hidden agenda of getting something for nothing (like play/pussy without the inconveniences of courtship/commitment), want to complain that women who won't play with them for free are degenerates who ought to be banished from the midst of us more classy creatures.  Puhleez, give us a break!


no break. you don't play for free, i don't play for free, actually, i don't play at all. you will have to find someone else. and someone else else, to whom to complain about how 1. all good men are not interested 2. men that are interested aren't worth the hassle.

course they aren't. it's in the premises.

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Grow up men, and realize that we all pay for sex.   M

nope. not old enough yet.

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:25:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Got any references for all this?  Because the Oxford Latin Dictionary (P.G.W. Glare) contradicts what you're saying.  These are the definitions for "uirgo":

1.  A girl of marriageable age.
2.  A woman who is sexually intact, a virgin.
3.  A woman existing in a (permanent) state of virginity.  [The most famous example of No. 3 would be the Vestal Virgins.]
4.  The constellation and zodiacal sign Virgo.
5.  One of the aqueducts of Rome, noted for the coolness of its water.

Look it up.  Plenty of classical references for each sense.  Nowhere does the most widely recognized Latin dictionary corroborate your suggestion of "a woman not under a male's control" for "virgo."

As for the real etymology: it's probably related to the word "virga," meaning "a shoot, a branch."

Lam

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
 
Where did THAT come from?  It's not true.  "Virgo" means exactly what we mean by "virgin," as in "virgo intacta."
 
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

The etamology of the word 'virgin' ...was not 'virgin' as it is perceived today...but a 'woman not under a male's control' ...



Me suggests you do some research on the origins LaM, you'll find virgin was simply 'young girl' as in not beholden to a man, something you became when you weren't virgo intacta ... like a wife ... and it is true, virgin was a woman not beholden, ergo under a man's control ...a woman of independent means ... hence a whore ... she became one, not because she had sex, but by virtue of not been under male rule..see my opening post... incidently, did anyone else know that 'girl' was the word for 'child' and 'child' was in fact an unborn 'girl' ...


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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:27:53 AM   
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The etamology of the word 'virgin' ...was not 'virgin' as it is perceived today...but a 'woman not under a male's control' ...
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Me suggests you do some research on the origins LaM, you'll find virgin was simply 'young girl' as in not beholden to a man, something you became when you weren't virgo intacta ... like a wife ... and it is true, virgin was a woman not beholden, ergo under a man's control ...a woman of independent means ... hence a whore ... she became one, not because she had sex, but by virtue of not been under male rule..see my opening post... incidently, did anyone else know that 'girl' was the word for 'child' and 'child' was in fact an unborn 'girl' ..
 




mkay.

it's spelled etymology ms college drop out. o sorry, my bad. collage.

and the entire young girl bullshit comes, i suppose, from watching "snatch", does it ? the jews before they rob the diamond store, in the elevator... the greek word for young woman... the latin word for virgin... an easy mistake to make... but it's the virgin that captured men's attention.

bs. films aren't a substitute for education, not even on the internet.

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:30:34 AM   
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i don't play at all
Well color me heartbroken!  How will I go on? 
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you will have to find someone else. and someone else else, to whom to complain about how 1. all good men are not interested 2. men that are interested aren't worth the hassle.

course they aren't. it's in the premises
Where did you get that?   I hope not from my post because I know and have known a few good men who don't bitch about why they should serve me.     

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it's spelled etymology ms college drop out. o sorry, my bad. collage.

and the entire young girl bullshit comes, i suppose, from watching "snatch", does it ? the jews before they rob the diamond store, in the elevator... the greek word for young woman... the latin word for virgin... an easy mistake to make... but it's the virgin that captured men's attention.

bs. films aren't a substitute for education, not even on the internet.
Zen, now you're being hateful and ignorant, none of which is called for in your response to Jasmyn.    M
  

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:34:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		OH MY GOD!!! I am a virgo and I am in control of my pussy and I love whoring!! what does that make me then? It would appear I can make every time seem like the first THEY SHOULD PAY ME FOR THIS!!!!

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 12:37:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		what do you mean not called for ? the woman pisses me off, there's call. she claims the exact nonsense to be true that everyone else who pisses me off regurgitated undigested. there's call. she's not only ignorant, but unaware. there's freakin call.

you probably mean there's no point. sure there isn't. a well.

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 1:21:29 AM   
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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 2:03:52 AM   
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it's spelled etymology ms college drop out.


Why do You care about an incorrect spelling for etymology? 

You did it Yourself in Post #4.

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particularly the virgin etimology attempt is very typical of a certain non scientific approach much favored by the enlightened feminists du jour,


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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 2:09:51 AM   
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Well, I'd jump into this with both feet wild abandon, but since I don't want to make a career out of this (and possibly derail this thread), I'll just watch and grin.

I can't help myself... just a bit of spice to see where it goes.

Considering those defintions defined by a dark ages church, can anyone speculate the rationale for them? Remember, the churche was trying to hold a society together after the fall of the Roman Empire and a plague. ;) (I'll go on to include the concept that these events were great oppurtunities for power to be aquired, for good or evil.)

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RE: Whores..what say you? - 8/11/2006 3:43:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		You are, as usual, correct, Lordandmaster.   The only single word in Latin that I can scrounge out of my brain that would at all apply any meaning to a  woman before she is under the control of a man  who is not her father (all women were legally under the control of some man... so I am assuming he meant a man who was a 'partner') would be... wait, wait, wait for it!!... puella  which meant something a bit different in older Latin before it came to simply mean girl.  It replaced the old word for girl, puera, which was the feminine for boy, puer, and referred to either the time in a young womans life when she both embodied the feminine, and was most desirable as a life partner and er.. other sort of partner..., which was  between the time of puberty and after she had married and had her first child. It also referred to young women in that category.

Virgo simply means, and always has meant in roman etymology, virgin.

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