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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 7:45:07 AM   
MzMinx


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Status: offline 		like anything .. different  people would respond in different ways

just like not all male submissives respond well to chastity devices .... I would suspect that more woman would easily lose their sexual drive faster  than males

I wonder if their is some physical basis,  that tends to make it that more submissive men desire chastity or  orgasm denial etc over long periods .. and the classic (not saying always) for submissive woman is the reverse .. rather than being put into chastity  they are brought into a more sexualy focused state ... this is certainly supported by most bdsm fiction litrature  and my own anecdotal knowledge of people and their kink desires

I wonder if a female would  need to be much more  emotionaly and sexually bonded with the person putting them in chastity in order to keep the sexual energy accesable enough in order to channel it ... not saying a woman couldnt be put into chastity ... but like the answers  already to the OP....many woman would lose  access  to that energy to a greater or lessor  degree ..

much would, I suspect, depend on the time frames involved *smiles* ... a couple of days is a very different think than several months ..... and I know  quite  few males who are kept in chastity for  very long periods .... with or without devices

long term chastity is a very different mind game than short term denial


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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 7:56:21 AM   
Homestead


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Status: offline 		Long term, the drives become sublimated to cope. It's been interesting to see the stages as they were passed through with various individuals. In the case of the more obssessive, there was a great deal of drama intially. It settled after about a week to ten days.

At the end of it all, most had a better idea of just how much thier drives affected and controlled them. Some had not even realized how automatically they tried to satisfy the urge. But that changed from taking for granted to knowing, every time thier fingers were thwarted by that grille.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 8:04:25 AM   
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[I am not allowed to cum without Master's permission.  We don't live together, and so I find the trust he places in my obedience to be the 'device' that keeps me chaste. 

This was a good way of putting it, and my experience as well.  From the beginning, this was my rule.  So from the beginning, I adhered to it.  Sometimes he makes me go longer than others, for whatever reason he has at the time.  The longest I recall was a little over 2 weeks.  There was no fanfare or drama about it, but it made me miss him in that way.  The result was that I felt his control quite powerfully, and that I craved him desperately.  The energy that was pent up was redirected to other areas, but once release was allowed, it was beyond explosive.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 8:17:27 AM   
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  The result was that I felt his control quite powerfully, and that I craved him desperately.  The energy that was pent up was redirected to other areas, but once release was allowed, it was beyond explosive. 


<smiles> Yes, abstinence makes the heart, and other parts, grow fonder!

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 8:19:43 AM   
MzMinx


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Status: offline 		Homestead  *smiles* ... many woman  often go several weeks without an orgasm

but like many control games ... when someone else holds the control.. *smiles*  the reactions can be quite different  .... and the introduction of a device  rather than mental chastity  changes the dynamic  as well

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 8:22:04 AM   
Homestead


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  The result was that I felt his control quite powerfully, and that I craved him desperately.  The energy that was pent up was redirected to other areas, but once release was allowed, it was beyond explosive. 


<smiles> Yes, abstinence makes the heart, and other parts, grow fonder!


Again, it comes back to not taking somthing for granted-and redirection. And I have found that teaching the ability to use the enegry in other ways to work very well.

And it can break down obsessive cycles.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 8:39:23 AM   
Homestead


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Homestead  *smiles* ... many woman  often go several weeks without an orgasm

but like many control games ... when someone else holds the control.. *smiles*  the reactions can be quite different  .... and the introduction of a device  rather than mental chastity  changes the dynamic  as well


The use of the device intensifies the mental component. It objectifies the cunt as something owned and controlled by another. I am a metal and leather worker. When this sort of thing was negotiated,the sub was required to be on hand as  I built the device. And was sitting there, stripped from the waist down as I fashioned and hinged the steel waist bands and locks......watched me shape and fit the grille to tightly cover her mons. And yet allow her to move about and not have the device chafe her. The last bits were gluing the foam padding to the waist band, riveting the plastic coated cable up between the ass checks, just so. And then the padlock on the front clicked shut, and I painted it over with tool dip. The crotch band and grille had been treated with this previously, and the rest was high tensile stainless steel. No metal touched the skin. It could be showered in, and I had  the girl come by every few days for a thorough cleaning with it off. I'd slice the tool dip from the padlock, then reapply a new coat after.

I was questioned about my trust a few times over this level of security. I just smiled and said......."Trust is moot in this excercise. It's purely about control. As long as you wear this, your cunt is mine. Trying to REMOVE it will break my trust."

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 9:51:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Daddy has often talked of locking me up in a similar manner for when he wasn't around. It has nothing to do with trust just the idea of it turns him on. Although he was talking of using rings and a padlock.. I do whatever it is that Daddy wants me too. He takes far better care of me as far as sexual needs go than anyone has in the past and if he wants me to abstain from masterbating although at current I'm allowed to do so at any time then I will do so to please him.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 9:55:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Homestead
The use of the device intensifies the mental component. It objectifies the cunt as something owned and controlled by another. I am a metal and leather worker. When this sort of thing was negotiated,the sub was required to be on hand as  I built the device. And was sitting there, stripped from the waist down as I fashioned and hinged the steel waist bands and locks......watched me shape and fit the grille to tightly cover her mons. And yet allow her to move about and not have the device chafe her. The last bits were gluing the foam padding to the waist band, riveting the plastic coated cable up between the ass checks, just so. And then the padlock on the front clicked shut, and I painted it over with tool dip. The crotch band and grille had been treated with this previously, and the rest was high tensile stainless steel. No metal touched the skin. It could be showered in, and I had  the girl come by every few days for a thorough cleaning with it off. I'd slice the tool dip from the padlock, then reapply a new coat after.


you sound reassuringly competent.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:03:27 AM   
Homestead


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ORIGINAL: Homestead
The use of the device intensifies the mental component. It objectifies the cunt as something owned and controlled by another. I am a metal and leather worker. When this sort of thing was negotiated,the sub was required to be on hand as  I built the device. And was sitting there, stripped from the waist down as I fashioned and hinged the steel waist bands and locks......watched me shape and fit the grille to tightly cover her mons. And yet allow her to move about and not have the device chafe her. The last bits were gluing the foam padding to the waist band, riveting the plastic coated cable up between the ass checks, just so. And then the padlock on the front clicked shut, and I painted it over with tool dip. The crotch band and grille had been treated with this previously, and the rest was high tensile stainless steel. No metal touched the skin. It could be showered in, and I had  the girl come by every few days for a thorough cleaning with it off. I'd slice the tool dip from the padlock, then reapply a new coat after.


you sound reassuringly competent.



There was a great deal of negotiation and communication involved throughout the entire process. The actual physical construction and control was an extremely small part of it all.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:21:41 AM   
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 I was questioned about my trust a few times over this level of security. I just smiled and said......."Trust is moot in this excercise. It's purely about control. As long as you wear this, your cunt is mine. Trying to REMOVE it will break my trust." 


I understand this, really I do.  Not that I would, but I could choose to disobey; it is my choice to obey.  The chastity device takes that choice from me and puts it in the dominant's domain, making it a much more intense level of control. 

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:29:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe I'm wired differently, but my sexual power flows simply from arousal.  I can get aroused without ever touching anything.  The actual cumming is so much less important to me, except it is important to one of the dominants I am with.  I have gone for weeks without cumming, and had no problem with that.

My dominants mind is the only thing necessary to control me.  It is his mind that is sexy to me, not any toys he may or may not have.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:39:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Homestead

It's And I think it helps a woman to not take things for granted-such as her cunt having any real power over my decisions.


Depending on how the rest of my life is going, locking me up might or might not work.  There are as many times i shut down, not needing sex, as those when i do.  i once went 3 years without sex (not by my choice) or masterbating, so i know darn well how to do it, and can easily slip back into that mindset. 

As for any decision making this situation would encourage, i doubt i'd stay with a man who would be so easily influenced by my body parts or whether or not he controlled having sex with me or whether or not i was allowed to masterbate.  i don't believe that's where my "power" lies, especially since, in my own M/s relationship, i had already exchanged that power and control to my Master. 

i can understand where  people get off on this type of thing, however, and if so... go for it..lol..

cheers
jimini

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:40:26 AM   
Homestead


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 I was questioned about my trust a few times over this level of security. I just smiled and said......."Trust is moot in this excercise. It's purely about control. As long as you wear this, your cunt is mine. Trying to REMOVE it will break my trust." 


I understand this, really I do.  Not that I would, but I could choose to disobey; it is my choice to obey.  The chastity device takes that choice from me and puts it in the dominant's domain, making it a much more intense level of control. 


Yes, it's a form of bondage.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:42:27 AM   
Homestead


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ORIGINAL: Homestead

It's And I think it helps a woman to not take things for granted-such as her cunt having any real power over my decisions.


Depending on how the rest of my life is going, locking me up might or might not work.  There are as many times i shut down, not needing sex, as those when i do.  i once went 3 years without sex (not by my choice) or masterbating, so i know darn well how to do it, and can easily slip back into that mindset. 

As for any decision making this situation would encourage, i doubt i'd stay with a man who would be so easily influenced by my body parts or whether or not he controlled having sex with me.  i don't believe that's where my "power" lies, especially since, in a D/s or M/s relationship i had already exchanged that power and control to my Master. 

i can understand where  people get off on this type of thing, however, and if so... go for it..lol..

cheers
jimini


No worries, I never get involved with a woman who uses pussy power as a lever. Makes her a whore, and me an idiot.

Not my thing.

I DO enjoy the intensity of a more non consenting form of control however.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:44:05 AM   
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I suspect that method would backfire if used on me.  First off, I don't masturbate often anyway.  Secondly, if there's no sexual/sensual stimulation to get me going, I pretty much shut off sexually.  There's no tension there, I simply go non-sexual for the most part.  Of course, the opposite is also true... a lot of teasing drives me nuts and I get pretty wild.

zuma


Ditto here zuma.  I suspect that there are many women who "turn off" if not sexually used.  I also do not ever masturbate.  I can't make it happen.  However, having sex causes me to want more sex...and more, and more and more.  Leave me alone for more than a day however and automatically that part of me shuts down.  Most of my friends don't believe it, but for the years after the end of my marriage, in which I had NO sex, I didn't desire it either.  Now, it doesn't take much attention from His Highness to get me going again.  LOL!  But, in the two years we've been together, there are only a few days here or there that we go without sex for various reasons, so I don't get much time anymore to shut down.  Glad to see I'm not alone!

sunshine


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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 10:46:08 AM   
Homestead


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Maybe I'm wired differently, but my sexual power flows simply from arousal.  I can get aroused without ever touching anything.  The actual cumming is so much less important to me, except it is important to one of the dominants I am with.  I have gone for weeks without cumming, and had no problem with that.

My dominants mind is the only thing necessary to control me.  It is his mind that is sexy to me, not any toys he may or may not have.

kitten


How well self controlled a sub is doesn't concern me in this.

Or how obedient, that's not the point. It's that she feels the powerlessness to effect what I am doing to her.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 12:07:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		While this may be a moot point to many of you (including the OP) - the whole point of a Sexual relationship is that there is Sex going on.  If there's no sex going on - or it is deliberately eliminated - it's no longer a sexual relationship.  For myself, that means I'm not likely to continue playing with that person.  I don't give control over to anyone outside of scenes, which means I'm certainly not going to let someone else dictate to me whether I can or can't have sex (or masterbate) outside of a scene.  Methods like this simply are not at all compatible with what I want out of life, or the type of associations that I seek out.

I don't necessarily fuck everyone that I do SM play with - but I'm not going to get into a commited, long term relationship that inherantly denies me things that I enjoy and want out of life.  It would simply make me miserable, and then resentful, and the relationship would end Anyway.

Besides, sex isn't always about reaching orgasm for me, or probably a lot of other women in the world.  People are capable of enjoying the act without feeling like it's necessary to achieve orgasm every time.  If all I'm interested in is achieving an orgasm - I can do that for myself much more effeciently than anyone else has Ever managed.  And again, it comes down to - that is simply something that I personally do not give someone else the right to dictate or control.  My body, my choice since I don't do power exchange.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 12:12:59 PM   
Homestead


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Status: offline 		Yes,it's moot to the topic of those of us who enjoy control. Sorry that you feel outraged by the concept.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 12:31:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I've mentioned in other threads on sexual and orgasm control, the less I do orgasm, the less intense it is for me when I do- it becomes a barrier to push against.  I wasn't able to orgasm at all until I was 18 and it takes a lot of focus to do so even today.  The less I'm "in practice" the harder and more just annoying it is when I actually do.  And it's usually not an explosive or fun time- it's more like tearing a band-aid off of a wound.

Oddly enough, the relationships I've felt most committed and secure within were the ones that encouraged me openly to go for sex as much as I desired.  I never felt so loved and cherished as when my older partner sent me off to the pool one night saying "Don't go off with anyone who isn't good looking."  And I certainly didn't feel like I was using my pussy power to control him.

Women spend too much time thinking negatively of their sex and pussy as it is.

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