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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 12:43:32 PM   
Homestead


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Why is it then so needful to repetitively belabor the issue?

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 12:47:27 PM   
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So it doesn't work for you.

Why is it then so needful to repetitively belabor the issue?

I don't think I'm belaboring it, as this thread had progressed, many different perspectives have come up about it.  I'm responding to those different perspectives.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 1:00:04 PM   
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So it doesn't work for you.

Why is it then so needful to repetitively belabor the issue?

I don't think I'm belaboring it, as this thread had progressed, many different perspectives have come up about it.  I'm responding to those different perspectives.


You seem very defensive, as you only refference yourself.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 1:14:53 PM   
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Maybe I'm wired differently, but my sexual power flows simply from arousal.  I can get aroused without ever touching anything.  The actual cumming is so much less important to me, except it is important to one of the dominants I am with.  I have gone for weeks without cumming, and had no problem with that.

My dominants mind is the only thing necessary to control me.  It is his mind that is sexy to me, not any toys he may or may not have.

kitten


How well self controlled a sub is doesn't concern me in this.

Or how obedient, that's not the point. It's that she feels the powerlessness to effect what I am doing to her.


I suppose it would depend on whether or not I were to willingly submit to it.  Honestly, I'm stubborn enough that I could will myself not to give a darn about being 'powerless' and would just shut down sexually.  Ultimately I'd still be in control.  You might end up with some irritability and resentment just for the attempt to take control I wasn't willing to give up, though.
 
That's just me.  With the right person, perhaps, it might work.  I really couldn't say.
 
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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 1:46:24 PM   
Homestead


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ORIGINAL: Homestead

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Maybe I'm wired differently, but my sexual power flows simply from arousal.  I can get aroused without ever touching anything.  The actual cumming is so much less important to me, except it is important to one of the dominants I am with.  I have gone for weeks without cumming, and had no problem with that.

My dominants mind is the only thing necessary to control me.  It is his mind that is sexy to me, not any toys he may or may not have.

kitten


How well self controlled a sub is doesn't concern me in this.

Or how obedient, that's not the point. It's that she feels the powerlessness to effect what I am doing to her.


I suppose it would depend on whether or not I were to willingly submit to it.  Honestly, I'm stubborn enough that I could will myself not to give a darn about being 'powerless' and would just shut down sexually.  Ultimately I'd still be in control.  You might end up with some irritability and resentment just for the attempt to take control I wasn't willing to give up, though.
 
That's just me.  With the right person, perhaps, it might work.  I really couldn't say.
 
zuma


It's always willing. There is no point in the excercise otherwise. It's one thing to belt a sub who consents. Quite another to do it to one you distrust for cheating on you. Belt have been used historically for two main reasons. To protect from rape, and to control promiscuity.

My uses of them are different.

1. If I have an eclusivity agreement, and a woman fucks someone else to cheat-she's history.
    No second chances, and I won't even talk to her again. I make that clear upfront. Pack your shit, and hit the road.  Don't come back.   

2. People take things for granted. Including thier bodies. When I control basic functions that stops. If you can't touch your cunt, and you are pissing through a steel grate-it's pretty hard not to think of me. Who made that thing, why it's here. Why you can't remove it.

There is such a thing as intimacy of control. And with this one, I can be half a world away, and still extert that.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 2:23:58 PM   
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You seem very defensive, as you only refference yourself.

Your thread is about how we would act under these circumstances, is it not?  Should I speak for another?

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 2:46:43 PM   
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You seem very defensive, as you only refference yourself.

Your thread is about how we would act under these circumstances, is it not?  Should I speak for another?


True.

Can you see this as being used in any positive way in your situation?

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 3:05:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's apparently something you enjoy, but it appears that most the women on this forum wouldn't be interested in engaging in such activities. Doesn't mean some of them wouldn't to please their Master, but it seems few think they would enjoy it.

Maybe it has something to do with the psychology of sexuality for a lot of women. Women aren't driven by sex the way men are. Many women struggle with the societal pressure to be "good girls" and so for them being with a man who encourages them to be sexual and enjoy their bodies is liberating and a growth experience. Putting it back in a bottle where it may have been for years is a step backwards.

Also, many women (probably all) have been with men who only thought of their own pleasure and cared nothing for whether the woman enjoyed it or had an orgasm. So watching a man cum while she sits and wishes it were her, or that she would get her turn, is really nothing new for a woman, and at least for me, is not a turn on. It's just frustrating and annoying.


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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 3:30:23 PM   
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The less sex I get the less I need or want, so it wouldn't work for me. I'd end up giving up and just learning to live without it.


I'm also one that's not allowed to orgasm w/out my Owner's dirrect permision. With us it kinda works backward though, because for me it's quite difficult to get off. He tells me I -will- get off when we have sex, which is, for us, much more controlling than telling me no. He's -making- my body do what he wants, not what it wants to do on its own.

On the topic at hand though, I react much as the person above. I would redirect my sexual energy such that it isn't put toward sex at all. In essence, I'd become without desire for orgasm. Sure, I'd still perform with my owner, and still like sexual contact, but I think that he'd find that I have very little/no desire for anything beyond that kind of sexual contact.

I admit to being one of the ones who doesn't "get" devices either. Still, were one used I'd eventually accept that my Owner didn't want me to get off, and stop worrying about it. Yeah, I -like- to get off. I enjoy it and I crave it, but if it becomes apparant that I'm not going to get it, well, that bit of me shuts down untill my Owner's ready to give me them again. I don't know if that ability is good or bad, it's just how my body works.




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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 5:14:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree that both devices and mental chastity is a form of control. I honestly have no experience at the moment but being both put into chastity and putting another into it goes along with the theory that you want what you can't have. If I am told that I cannot have any orgasms for a period of time, my drive for having one shoots up as the time passes. Same if I tell someone they cannot orgasm. But I do believe that it takes a certain person for this to work. Both me and my fiance have high sex drives and not releasing it will only increase the level of the drive over time. The OP has a good point and I understand it. But I understand that many would not be into it and whatever anybody does is their own choice. Nobody is here to judge.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 6:20:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Going against the majority here to say, the idea is great. Probably not for those whose reason for being here is 'sexual', but for those whose reasons run more to 'control'. this is beautiful. Feelings/reactions to 'mental' chastity and 'physical' chastity are very different. There is something reasuring about having control in the hands of another, with no possibility of 'taking it back' momentarily (or long enough to orgasm). Basically, it reinforces the 'belongs to another' idea. A nice reminder.

For all those who have not had the oportunity to try this, keep in mind that when something is physically not possible, the human mind tends to inflate the sense of need of that thing. - generally, you end up wanting it more than usual just because you can't have it. Of course, not everybody and not always, just general tendencies of humans.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 6:44:12 PM   
Homestead


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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 6:52:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I find it interesting that many people have hit on the exact dynamic that leaps to mind when I think of female chastity.  For many women, loss of libido is the symptom of something else - repression, relationship strife, depression, etc. so to force her into such a role could mimic the negative.  I see far too many situations where the male partner assumes the female partner's body and mind work the same as theirs.  Just look at the incredible prevalence of date-rape for your example. 

In the act of coitus, women's bodies release a hormone which improves the emotional connection and need for their partner.  To deny this decreases bonding.  In small doses for fun, yeah, I can see the thrill, but long-term, I can see why it could backfire.

Of course, it does need to be said, the vulva and vagina are a sensitive ecosystem requiring careful hygeine, airflow, and prevention of the intrusion of foreign bacteria.  When using a female chastity device, keep this in mind.  Most of what I have read on the topic suggests they should be used only very short term.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 7:00:20 PM   
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I find it interesting that many people have hit on the exact dynamic that leaps to mind when I think of female chastity.  For many women, loss of libido is the symptom of something else - repression, relationship strife, depression, etc. so to force her into such a role could mimic the negative.  I see far too many situations where the male partner assumes the female partner's body and mind work the same as theirs.  Just look at the incredible prevalence of date-rape for your example. 

In the act of coitus, women's bodies release a hormone which improves the emotional connection and need for their partner.  To deny this decreases bonding.  In small doses for fun, yeah, I can see the thrill, but long-term, I can see why it could backfire.

Of course, it does need to be said, the vulva and vagina are a sensitive ecosystem requiring careful hygeine, airflow, and prevention of the intrusion of foreign bacteria.  When using a female chastity device, keep this in mind.  Most of what I have read on the topic suggests they should be used only very short term.


I'm just tossing out a few ideas. I'm becoming more disconnected from the idea of wanting a relationship all the time. I don't like relying on other people.

I'm relocating to a place out in the country in a few days to get some sanity back into my life. It's going to be lovely. And I'll be pursuing other interests.  I feel I have learned a great deal about human nature over the past ten years.

Be well.


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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 7:24:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhiplashGirlChld

I find it interesting that many people have hit on the exact dynamic that leaps to mind when I think of female chastity.  For many women, loss of libido is the symptom of something else - repression, relationship strife, depression, etc. so to force her into such a role could mimic the negative.  I see far too many situations where the male partner assumes the female partner's body and mind work the same as theirs.  Just look at the incredible prevalence of date-rape for your example. 

In the act of coitus, women's bodies release a hormone which improves the emotional connection and need for their partner.  To deny this decreases bonding.  In small doses for fun, yeah, I can see the thrill, but long-term, I can see why it could backfire.

Of course, it does need to be said, the vulva and vagina are a sensitive ecosystem requiring careful hygeine, airflow, and prevention of the intrusion of foreign bacteria.  When using a female chastity device, keep this in mind.  Most of what I have read on the topic suggests they should be used only very short term.
I have to completely agree with this statement...If put into such a bondage as this ,power and control or not..I would not only shut down physicially, I would also over a small period of time shut down emotionally from one who I should be feeling closer to, no frustrations or the like ...simple distance..so be careful on who you use this type of control on as you may end up  NOT having control but may also lose a a desireable dynamic as well....tempting

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/12/2006 7:27:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		The labia rings are a nice idea and a small lock but  with the security at places today a lock is going to set off a metal detector very likely if not just the rings themselves. If you are wanting to secure the lips and cunt then try this remove the rings if you can get some 85 trimmer line and cut to length of about a inch. Incert and  make a circle and then heat a knife blade and melt the ends and then fuse together. Or use 90 pound fish line or smaller and lace the lips as in a shoe lacing and then melt the end and fuse them. She can not get out of them with out cutting them loose and would be hard to replace the exact way you had them. Is just a thought I have used it in the past and works  great. Will also work for nipple rings if traveling and going thru airport security and will keep the holes open.  Also will hold anything in place inside as well. Hope it may be of soom help

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/14/2006 1:45:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know for myself when I have been not able to cum or been denied sex I too have shut down sexually.  This however is different.  I will try to explain what I am thinking though I maynot be able to.

Some have said they would do this as it would please their Master/Owner/Dom.  Yes there is that component.  However for me it would be even more.  To know he is excited at the depth of control he is exerting over me would enhance my anticipation and desire for him.  As well to feel and see the control he has over me 24/7 would again further enhance the experience.

I have never fully understood the use of chastity devices for female slave/submissives, my thoughts went more to a lack of trust or perhaps even a Dom who lacked self confidence and felt they needed external controls to control their sub/slave

<thinking one should call her Master at work and make a subtle suggestion :)>

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/14/2006 2:03:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

It's apparently something you enjoy, but it appears that most the women on this forum wouldn't be interested in engaging in such activities. Doesn't mean some of them wouldn't to please their Master, but it seems few think they would enjoy it.

Maybe it has something to do with the psychology of sexuality for a lot of women. Women aren't driven by sex the way men are. Many women struggle with the societal pressure to be "good girls" and so for them being with a man who encourages them to be sexual and enjoy their bodies is liberating and a growth experience. Putting it back in a bottle where it may have been for years is a step backwards.

Also, many women (probably all) have been with men who only thought of their own pleasure and cared nothing for whether the woman enjoyed it or had an orgasm. So watching a man cum while she sits and wishes it were her, or that she would get her turn, is really nothing new for a woman, and at least for me, is not a turn on. It's just frustrating and annoying.




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to the OP:
 
Studies have been done and have shown that women who are denied sex react differntly then men who are denied sex.
 
After three days a woman can turn off the need and desire for sex not making her attentive at all but the opposit, often it physically depressed and irritable....how ever with a man it invigorates him and makes him hyper attentive.
 
But it was discovered that men too become depressed after about 30 days of sex denial as a genral rule.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/14/2006 2:13:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chastity is something that I have some experience in as my submissive husband has been in chastity in some form or another for many years. I too have had periods of it but on the honor system, never really having worn a device. I do think men and women probably react to sexual denial differently, I know first hand for submissive/slave men that it improved their focus. For me I did find it frustrating but I also did not shut down sexually either, indeed I have always had the ability to walk away from sexual activity for some period with not a lot of adverse effects.

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RE: Locking up a cunt - 8/14/2006 2:46:56 PM   
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