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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 8/31/2006 8:47:22 PM

MistressLorelei

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I think the dog is a good idea, as is ignoring them to the best of your ability.

However, I do think that you are dealing with people who are racist and who lack common sense. If without knowing you they are making unprovoked negative comments towards you, they could be very dangerous. What 'should be' and 'what is' are different situations. I have had a restraining order against someone, and what should have been meant nothing when that person approached me anyway. If obeying laws and hoping for what what should be were a reality, then we would have no criminals.

I would value my well-being, safety and sanity over my pride and my flags... I would take them down and test the waters. I would rather regret taking a flag down than be taken down myself. These people know where you live...

That's how I see it anyway.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 8/31/2006 8:51:58 PM

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I desperately need some view points here and maybe some suggestions on how to deal with this situation. I’m asking here because I really do like the diversity and honest open thoughts I have seen displayed here thus far.
I just bought this charming little house in what I thought was a great neighborhood. I’m moving in with the help of some friends, things were going great until one of my girlfriends comes running into the house and says to me “you have got to see what the hell is going on outside” so I go outside and admittedly did freak out a little.
My next door neighbor had some friends over, no biggie, right.
Wait, I’m getting ahead of myself here, let me explain a little something here.
I am half Polish and half American Indian (yea I know, odd mix) the first things that went up for display outside was a Polish Flag, an American Flag, a Marine Corps Flag and a Flag with the Blackfoot Indian Tribal symbol. No issue, to me anyway.
So I go outside and what do I see, four grown men dressed in black pants tucked into combat boot, white t-shirts and red suspenders. Okay, call me dumb but it didn’t hit me at first, that is, until I happened to notice a swastika on the back of one of the t-shirts, and white power on the front of another when he turned around. Talk about dirty looks, trust me if they could kill, I would be dead right now.
Now it isn’t like I have never faced bigotry before, because sadly I have, just like most people. I have spoken to my realtor and asked why this bit of information was not disclosed to me in the first place, her reply “I was afraid you would back out of the deal” which hell yes I would have. When I flat out asked her if there were problems in the neighborhood, or anything of the like, she lied to me; she knew about my neighbor and did not tell me. Yes, I did look things up on the net, with the police station, but they only post things like child molesters or rapists, nothing about skinheads is posted
They have not really bothered me, or at least in a way that would be considered overtly hostile, there has been no vandalism to my property, but, there has been name calling, things said like “aint you a waste of space” or “stop breathing MY air half breed bitch”
They never say anything about the flags, or the items in my back yard, but damn do they make it uncomfortable. It seems like they know when I work late nights and come home alone, because they are out on the porch each time. I admit I am a little scared, but not enough to move, besides my three day remorse has passed and all the papers have been signed.
One of my friends is a police officer, and I have asked him what I should do, his best suggestion “ignore them, or take down the flags or anything that displays who you are”, yeah right, that will work, they already know, and, NO, I will NOT take down the flags, or remove anything from my yard; it is my right to display these items, besides I am in accordance with city ordinance. I am actually thinking of getting a room mate now, which I really don’t want to do. As far as protection goes, I have a gun yes, I do know how to use it, but come on, that isn’t really how I want to live.
So, basically I am seeking some suggestions on how to deal with my oh so lovely neighbor and his friends.
Anyone, anyone?

You need to talk to your local board of realitors to see if the agent that showed you this place was supposed to disclose this information. Just as it may be seen as unethical to not tell you, it may also be seen as just as unethical to have told you. I dabble abit in realestate and where I am, it's not upto the realitor to tell you about such things. It falls under the old saying of "buyer beware". If you didn't do any sort of checking into the neighborhood you wanted to move into, thats on you. Not the agent.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 8/31/2006 9:23:42 PM

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The bottom line is this. If you do not bug them, they will not bug you. They will have no reason to. So I implore you to use your head and enjoy your new home.

Not quite true. The OP is mixed ethnicity and they know it. That's reason enough to them to harass her.

Get a German Shepherd or Rotweller. The bigger the better and have them trained.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 8/31/2006 10:38:57 PM

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I don't know if yall think you're thinking or what, but a realtor does not give the racial mkeup of a neighborhood. To do so might even be illegal as per the Equal everything acts. Law.

Now if I read the OP correctly it was a Native, a Marine, and two other flags. First of all I see no reason they should have a problem with that. This may be a potential problem, but last time I bnought a house I went into the neighborhood late at night, again and again before even thinking of making an offer. It is not the realtor's responsibility to do this.

If the realtor works for a company and is not an independant he is bound to follow what the company lawyers hand down as the company's procedure for this type of thing. Many simply are barred from mentioning it, not to mention that in this case they would have not acted in the company's best interest.

Is this the first house you bought ? lemme tellya, when you buy and not rent, there are different criteria for dealing with neighbors. I learned that and it has worked out for me. Are they your only neighbors ? Contact others around you. You can find out alot. The other neighbors may tell you that this group is harmless and simply provides entertainment, or they might hand you a Walther PPK and put you on watch. You never know.

And put those flags out front, be strong but non-confrontational. Even agree to take them down when they have a march scheduled. It is the neighborly thing to do. When they get done put the flags back up.

My Dad told me to never take shit from anyone, I asked "Even Mom ?". He said "Anyone".

You have as much right to be there as they. But no more than they. You must try to get along. Those uniforms don't mean shit. Is there a cross burning ? What is broken ?

Let's just keep this in perspective.

T

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 8/31/2006 11:11:11 PM

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Do you know if these people are renters, or own the house? Could be their lease is up and are moving out shortly to larger 'quarters'.
Have other neighbors been pleasant to you, to the point you might approach them and find out their feelings, as to how far into this nazi stuff they think these neighbors are and how safe you might be?
I'd be getting in contact with the board of realtors as previously suggested.
If they start playing Prusian Blue loud enough for you to hear it..uh...move in with family or friends.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 4:43:03 AM

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"Freedom of expression and speech still is legal in the US. One of the reasons we split from England in 1776, philosophy."

freedom to incite racial hatred......hmmmm.......think thats one freedom people, on the whole, could do without.

"It's called freedom of speech. You can keep the flags, they can still call you a half breed bitch. As has been said, you are being confrontational so don't start crying when they throw the next rock."

So putting up a flag and happening to be not racially 'pure' is justification not only for rocks being thrown at people, but for the victims of the rock throwing to be characterised as confrontational.

When people defend the rights of Nazis to act in a racist and unjustifiable manner what does that say about such people? To suggest that putting flags up that reflect ones ethnicity is equally culpable as making racist comments is utter rot. MD44, you are simply defending racism.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 5:41:46 AM

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In California, common law does require disclosure of material facts in relation to real property transfers and leases if an inquiry is made. This is one case where courts have decided a pure policy of caveat emptor could cause too many problems. An allusion to this can be seen in the pertinent California statutory code (linked by another post) section 1.A where even in cases of new homes exempt from the other statutory requirements the common law rights are retained:

"...the broker owes the buyer a duty to disclose any material facts which affect the value, desirability and intended use of the property."

As the original poster specifically inquired about potential neighborhood problems and the broker admitted to intentionally withholding facts there might be a pretty good case to void the contract or sue the realtor... or at least there would be in California. Of course, laws can differ between states, so checking with a local lawyer would be a good idea if you are considering moving out and a normal sale poses difficulties.

A couple of other things to note: In the post it was unclear if you signed the papers before or after you were aware of the "lovely neighbors." If you signed them after, that could make the case difficult since you agreed to the contract even after discovering the withheld facts. Also, it would help if you had witnesses to the realtor's admission of intentionally withholding information.

If I seriously felt physically threatened, I would try to move. If you aren't sure if you are overreacting, level-headed friends who know you and have a chance to observe the situation themselves might be a better gauge. If you believe a reasonable person in your position would fear physical harm, legal options could include suing for assault, but this likely won't make for pleasant relations with the neighbors and consequently would be best done in tandem with a move out. If you don't deem the situation as a physical risk and can't/don't want to move, then ignoring them and being non-confrontational seems the best option.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 6:01:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

"Freedom of expression and speech still is legal in the US. One of the reasons we split from England in 1776, philosophy."

freedom to incite racial hatred......hmmmm.......think thats one freedom people, on the whole, could do without.

"It's called freedom of speech. You can keep the flags, they can still call you a half breed bitch. As has been said, you are being confrontational so don't start crying when they throw the next rock."

So putting up a flag and happening to be not racially 'pure' is justification not only for rocks being thrown at people, but for the victims of the rock throwing to be characterised as confrontational.

When people defend the rights of Nazis to act in a racist and unjustifiable manner what does that say about such people? To suggest that putting flags up that reflect ones ethnicity is equally culpable as making racist comments is utter rot. MD44, you are simply defending racism.

And? Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot that can be done. The rocks comment was not meant literally.. But you wouldn't want to see that way, would you. Don't bother answering, it's a retorical question. The niebghors have as much right to say what they want as she does. It's only when they act on their hatred that the law can become involved. Being in the UK, I doubt you'll have a very good grasp of law pertaining to the U.S. You should get a glass belly button so you can see where you're going. I do have one question for you, phil, how do you breath with your head stuck so far up there? Hmmmmm.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 6:04:29 AM

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Thats great!!!! If the OP was in California, that is. Since she's in Ohio, I'm betting that this information isn't going to do her alot of good, shallowdeep.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 6:40:39 AM

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freedom to incite racial hatred......hmmmm.......think thats one freedom people, on the whole, could do without.

How do you explain merry old England permitting the Muslims to riot and call for the death of all Jews? Shouldn't they all have been imprisoned based upon your representation of the UK?

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 9:07:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrrPete

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin
The bottom line is this. If you do not bug them, they will not bug you. They will have no reason to. So I implore you to use your head and enjoy your new home.

Not quite true. The OP is mixed ethnicity and they know it. That's reason enough to them to harass her.

Get a German Shepherd or Rotweller. The bigger the better and have them trained.

Good Advice from Mr Pete.

I don't know the convictions of the hatemongers your are dealing with, but I do know that in the county where one of my friends lives, a mother and son were left for dead at the hands of some members of a nazi group back in March of this year. The son died. It was reported that the beating was a result of, not of any direct confrontation between the parties, but because of the fact that the mother was dating an African American man.

You are dealing with people that aren't rational in picking their battles, so do tread lightly and watch your back regardless of whether you choose to stand your ground on any particular issue. No matter what you do from this point on, your very presence in the neighborhood is an afront to them.

I hope you do have some recourse to get out of that contract so that you are able get that heck out of that neighborhood. If not, then my advice would be, in addition to looking into getting personal protection such as was already adviced, look into local civil rights groups that can be of assistance. I don't mean that should have anyone get in their face. You just may want to discuss your options with people that have real experience that have delt with these kinds of hate groups.

I'm not suggestion you should fold to these people, but you want to keep your self safe from harm, you are not dealing with people that care if you take your next breath. Actually, they'd probably prefer if you don't. But, if you challenge them, be prepared to go the course with guns fully loaded and you have to be packing more than pride and attitude, because many times these people are packing stupid, which consist of all bets off winner takes all mentalities, battle to the death..

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 9:37:56 AM

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That is the thing. These people here are irrationaly attempting to apply rationality to irrational people. Obviously it does not work that way. You can be stupid and provoke them by keeping the flags. Your rights. Blah blah blah. We know. Your rights do not do you much good when you are in a coffin.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 10:04:02 AM

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Thats great!!!! If the OP was in California, that is.

Indeed, as I duly noted. That said, common law between states is very rarely diametrically opposed and quite often very similar. As there was some debate over whether there might be a legal case against the realtor, it seemed prudent to note that there could well be... along with my advice to consult a local lawyer.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 10:39:12 AM

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Kenin always defends power. If someone has the power to do something, as far as Kenin is concerned, that means they have the right, too. Realtors lie and cheat? No big deal. They do it because they can. Deal with it.

What an impoverished view of the world.

In fact, Kenin, you're utterly mistaken about a realtor's responsibilities, and it's crystal clear that you don't what you're talking about. There are buyer's agents, seller's agents, and dual agents. The specific laws vary from state to state, but, by and large, whenever you enter into a relationship with a realtor, he or she is required by law to explain the difference between a buyer's agent and a seller's agent, and if the realtor is going to be YOUR agent as a buyer, it's neither correct--nor satisfactory as a defense against a complaint--that "they represent the seller."

If this realtor admitted that she withheld information because she was afraid that the buyer would back out of a deal, she SHOULD lose her license and COULD also face legal sanctions.

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Maybe. And? Since when did that ever stop them. Realtors are not exactly in business to tell the truth, and if they are truthful they do not stay in business very long.

Most people seem to forget that a realtor is not there for the buyer. That is not their purpose in life. They represent the seller. Not you. If you got burned, that is because you did not do your homework. The responsibility is yours. Do not try and pass the buck.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 11:02:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: shallowdeep

quote:

Thats great!!!! If the OP was in California, that is.

Indeed, as I duly noted. That said, common law between states is very rarely diametrically opposed and quite often very similar. As there was some debate over whether there might be a legal case against the realtor, it seemed prudent to note that there could well be... along with my advice to consult a local lawyer.

I provided a link to the Law in California in this thread. It is there for all of us to peruse. Perhaps you could point us to the precise section that backs up your statements, because I could not find one.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 11:07:49 AM

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I don't disagree with your overall meaning I think, but let's tidy up some other stuff...

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...and if the realtor is going to be YOUR agent as a buyer, it's neither correct--nor satisfactory as a defense against a complaint--that "they represent the seller."

Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the realtor's actual motives and how this plays out in the real world. In the real world they would never defend the action that way and instead simply claim ignorance of issues concerning the property. A civil case would have to show actual knowledge of the relevant facts and have evidence to back up such a claim. Evidence concerning what someone knew and when they knew it is going to be very hard to prove absent some kind of substantive documentation - and if such existed the OP might not be in her predicament.

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If this realtor admitted that she withheld information because she was afraid that the buyer would back out of a deal, she SHOULD lose her license and COULD also face legal sanctions.

That's one big *IF*, right? You are basically saying: "if the realtor confessed she screwed you to make a sale and reap a profit."

Yeah, that's not going to happen...

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 11:10:06 AM

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Kenin always defends power. If someone has the power to do something, as far as Kenin is concerned, that means they have the right, too. Realtors lie and cheat? No big deal. They do it because they can. Deal with it.

What an impoverished view of the world.

In fact, Kenin, you're utterly mistaken about a realtor's responsibilities, and it's crystal clear that you don't what you're talking about. There are buyer's agents, seller's agents, and dual agents. The specific laws vary from state to state, but, by and large, whenever you enter into a relationship with a realtor, he or she is required by law to explain the difference between a buyer's agent and a seller's agent, and if the realtor is going to be YOUR agent as a buyer, it's neither correct--nor satisfactory as a defense against a complaint--that "they represent the seller."

If this realtor admitted that she withheld information because she was afraid that the buyer would back out of a deal, she SHOULD lose her license and COULD also face legal sanctions.

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Maybe. And? Since when did that ever stop them. Realtors are not exactly in business to tell the truth, and if they are truthful they do not stay in business very long.

Most people seem to forget that a realtor is not there for the buyer. That is not their purpose in life. They represent the seller. Not you. If you got burned, that is because you did not do your homework. The responsibility is yours. Do not try and pass the buck.

I do not defend power. I do not defend the right to screw somebody... However I provided the Law here in this thread where there is a clear absence of facts to back up the claims in this thread... So I cry BULLSHIT!!!!

There is no obligation to reveal any details about the neighbors in the Law. NONE. Am I saying it is right? No. But I do not give a shit about right for the purposes of this thread. I care about facts, and I see a bunch of people blabbering on about shit they obviously do not know anything about. I have given them the opportunity to use the facts to prove their case, and they have not. They just keep rambling on, falsely assuming that repeating themselves a dozen times gives truth to a lie.

I do not think this entire situation is right. But I think logically. I think that rights are not the issue here. I think common sense is, and the burden of proof...evidence, and so far I have seen a distinct lack of it in this thread. You people have absolutely NO idea what these people are capable of. You have insulted them. Denigrated them. Called them names. Vented your frustrations... but so what? Who gives a shit? You are big tough guys from a distance, eh? Ooooh. I am impressed.

The cops are not going to do anything. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the skinheads committed an offence. Obviously none of you know exactly how difficult that is to do. I know precisely how difficult it is. Never mind what is in the Law. Prove that they broke it and intended to break it. Never mind the fact that you aggravated them, and the Judge throws it out of Court or reduces it to a misdemeanour if it even makes it that far. Good luck getting the DA to prosecute. The Courts are not going to do anything to the realtor either. Prove intent. Oh, you can not? OOOOOPS. Neither can they. They can not make an order without intent. See what I am getting at?

Out of curiosity.. Let us assume that the Courts said "Yeah, I suppose you are right. The realtor violated their duties"? What then? Do you think they are going to let you break title? Not bloody likely. I bet that the worst that is going to happen is that the realtor is ordered to pay restitution. And where does that leave you? Ok. You got your money. You got your flags. And you got a bunch of armed skinheads looking for blood. Wow. That helped.

The bottom line? Screw your "rights" just for a minute. You are in this position. You put yourself in this position of your own volition. You had to make a statement. Who the hell in their right mind flies racially charged flags in a brand new neighborhood and then complains about it because they pissed off the wrong people. It is your own fault. I have my rights you say. I am not going to back down you say. I am going to stand my ground. Well you do that, but call ahead to the morgue so they can get a body bag ready with your name on it because that is exactly what these people are capable of doing. All because of some STUPID flags. I hope it is worth it.

I have never seen more useless, uninformed callously given advice in My life. This is a dangerous situation we are talking about here, but I guess it is easy to throw around cute ideas like guns and dogs when it is not you that has a gang of armed skinheads pissed off at you.

Give Me a break.

EDIT: Ok, now that I have said that I will give you a solution. Take down the flags ASAP. At least demonstrate that you are not trying to be a prick and intentionally piss people off. That is a start. Then mind your own business. If they mock you, call you names, whatever, do nothing. You will get nowhere, I promise. If they make a move that is illegal, and you have ample evidence of it, THEN say something. Unfortunately what the people in this thread do not realize (among many other things by the look of it) the Law does not protect the innocent. It protects the guilty. The Law is not proactive, it is reactive. So, you HAVE to wait until they commit an offence, which will most likely be an assault, before you can do anything. Make sure you have plenty of evidence of it as well. Let them kick the shit out of you. Let people see it. Stay in public places. If you do not, it will be your word against theirs and again, I PROMISE you, they will walk. Yes, I am speaking from experience. With ample evidence, file your report. Identify the perpetrators. March over to the Courthouse and seek a restraining order right away. It will be easier to make a case against them in the future if you have this. Be advised that if you press charges, you just opened a door you REALLY did not want to open. They will come after you. Not them. Their friends. I have yet to see an isolated cell of skinheads. When this happens, dump the house and move. I do not care if you like the house. I do not care if it is your right to be there. Although that is true, I could care less. I am trying to tell you how to maintain your safety. Next time use your head right from the start and you will be inviting less problems.

Yeah, it is crappy that you have to go through this, but that does not matter now, does it. You made your bed, unfortunately you now have to lie in it and make the best of a crappy situation. Good luck.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 12:42:37 PM

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"How do you explain merry old England permitting the Muslims to riot and call for the death of all Jews? Shouldn't they all have been imprisoned based upon your representation of the UK?"

thank you so much for reminding me.........

when that happened there was an outcry based exactly on the point you made. There have been a number of arrests but i'm not sure if there've been convictions. The main point here is that it WAS illegal, actionable, a socially unacceptable behaviour. The Islamic council came out and condemned it. Quite frankly it caused a major fuss. Which reinforces the idea that it was a bad idea.
By not making a fuss, by allowing such inflammatory remarks, the US system fails to confront racism when its at its least dangerous and most amenable to change.

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 12:43:06 PM

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According to the OP, the realtor has said this already.

And Kenin: Read this before you spout any more uninformed nonsense about realtors' responsibilities. This is from Ohio, the OP's home state:

http://www.realestatebrokersguide.com/Brokerage_Cleveland.html

Look up the concept of "fiduciary duty" if you are not familiar with it.

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
If this realtor admitted that she withheld information because she was afraid that the buyer would back out of a deal, she SHOULD lose her license and COULD also face legal sanctions.

That's one big *IF*, right? You are basically saying: "if the realtor confessed she screwed you to make a sale and reap a profit."

Yeah, that's not going to happen...

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RE: Desperately seeking suggestions….. - 9/1/2006 12:44:37 PM

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"Being in the UK, I doubt you'll have a very good grasp of law pertaining to the U.S. You should get a glass belly button so you can see where you're going. I do have one question for you, phil, how do you breath with your head stuck so far up there? Hmmmmm."

....hmmmmm................... i begin to see where you are coming from in defending the right of not very bright people to hurl insults.

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