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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 12:43:15 PM   
GeekyGirl


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Status: offline 		I don't really see anything in the profile mentioned that screams "fake". The insistence of seeking 100% slavery is a bit extreme but not terribly uncommon in profiles on this site. As someone else said, I also don't consider her to be extremely attractive. If the picture had been of a model, that would be different...this particular profile is just an average looking girl. She's got a good body but her face is rather homely in my opinion.

Who are we to decide who's "real" and who isn't? I had someone PM me and accuse me of being a "fake" and "not a real submissive" , and to my knowledge there is nothing in my profile which indicates such.


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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 12:50:18 PM   
losttreasure


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ORIGINAL: chgosubmale

How many profiles do you all come across out there that seem to be, well, fake. I see quite a few of them, though nothing like a majority. I just saw this one pop up on the screen http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/333089/rzvh/68663/details.htm to pick a random one. This has all the hallmarks of something that doesn't right true:

- Very attractive, young woman in a provactive pose
- Lesbian profile with "NO MEN!" in all caps
- Few if any personal details, likes/dislikes, etc.
- Seeking extreme slavery, "NO RIGHTS..NO safe words" etc

I see a lot of these types, though they are not the only ones. I was just wondering what other people's experienes have been, and if there are any other generic types of profiles that you see a lot that just don't seem right.



*laughs*  Okay... I'll concede that there might be any number of profiles out there that are not genuine in one fashion or another.  Not my place to judge, and I certainly don't care.  But honestly, chgosubmale... all this sounds like is a male slave who's a bit disappointed that the cute dom chick in the picture doesn't want him.  She's young, she's pretty, she's provacative, but she doesn't want men?  She must be fake!

Edited to add:  By the way, don't expect this thread to be allowed to continue.  I don't believe pointing out profiles on the other side and critiquing them is permitted by the TOS.


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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 12:57:39 PM   
joyinslavery


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Status: offline 		Well, all I have to say about the particular profile referenced by the OP is, there are times I wish I was female.  This is one of them. 

Yummy.


Edited to add:  I thought the profile looked perfectly ok.  (???)

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 1:00:38 PM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		Perhaps, sometimes when a person first creates their profile, they are fantasy driven in the rush or desperation of the moment...that is just one thought that comes to mind of many.
 
Afterall, many come here, because they ARE in search of fantasy fulfillment in many aspects, of what they feel they need and are looking for. 
 
So if someone posts an absolute slavery profile request of this nature, it may be that is just what they are looking for in their specific desire.  Current realtiy is a given for most.  However, it is worth reminding and mentioning that this site is based on creating and fostering our own perceived realities.
 
i also agree with LA about the 30% number in fakes profiles, and hey, what does it really matter in the greater scheme of things anyway, ya know?.
 
How can we judge if one person's fantasy or desire is fake? This is judged based on what criteria? *sheesh! LOL!

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 1:06:45 PM   
Kirei


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Status: offline 		Personally I think it is very hard for anyone.  You have fake sub/slaves and fake dominants.  The only real way to find out if there real or fake is too ask questions and see what you get back.
  The worst part is you really have to be informed, and know what your looking for.  If they will not ask the questions then you have too.  For me if they don't write back...then they do not want it bad enough. 
   In your example and this came up in our local group too.  If someone wants a slave with no choice, do they really understand how much work that is going to be for them?  A slave with no choice has the ability to live in the moment...they do not have to worry about the past, or the future.  No rights...hey don't have to worry about the laws, their dominant is responsible for them now.  No safewords....hmm makes me wonder about their mental state.  I mean it takes time to get to know someone, and your going to trust someone with your life you've never me?   I see these things all the time.
   Living in a lifestyle relationship is 90% what you put into it.....this doesn't matter if your the dominant or the sub.  At its most basic level that means its going to be work.  If you want to find the right one its going to take a lot work....and thats only the beginning.

Koneko 

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 1:09:33 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		At the expense of redundancy;

I know for a fact that some of the female profiles on this site are real, because I created them.

Ron

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 1:31:28 PM   
joyinslavery


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

At the expense of redundancy;

I know for a fact that some of the female profiles on this site are real, because I created them.

Ron


Is that You in the picture Ron?  *grin*

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 1:34:17 PM   
losttreasure


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quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

At the expense of redundancy;

I know for a fact that some of the female profiles on this site are real, because I created them.

Ron


Is that You in the picture Ron?  *grin*


He's a Master of disguise. 

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 2:12:20 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chgosubmale

How many profiles do you all come across out there that seem to be, well, fake. I


I've not known CM to riddle their site with fakes like A_ _ dot com does!

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 2:17:36 PM   
Samwhiplash


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Status: offline 		There are a lot of fake irish profiles - mostly femsub - and mostly all owned and monitored by one particular gentleman (or whatever u cld choose to call him).

I also have a major bone of contention with profiles that contain fake or exaggerated details EG height (so tired of people lying and then being caught out).

Its interesting if you search for Irish female profiles between 20 and 35 and then watch the login patterns. There are a load of profiles with xxx in the name and they all login one after the other regularly. I mean if you are going to use fake profiles, at least have some cop on as to not have a regular pattent that is easily recognisable.

:) :) :)

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 2:25:51 PM   
Powerman40


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quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

Well, all I have to say about the particular profile referenced by the OP is, there are times I wish I was female.  This is one of them. 

Yummy.


Edited to add:  I thought the profile looked perfectly ok.  (???)


I have to agree, I may need to change my profile to PowerMaM40 /Domme......*S* think she would bite???

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 2:44:34 PM   
jesiul


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Interesting topic, for me it is not about the profile, as one can say or put any type of information, either true or false.
 
I have seen my own profile copied, plagiarized, and even completely done as a cut and paste. Years ago I had a Dom send me a photo of his online sub… and you guessed it… the photo was of myself… ~laughing~ I broke the news to him; the photo was not of his girl, but a professional boudoir photo done of me by a close friend.
 
So needled to say, what is in a profile (and I do take the time to read them) holds very little value, or any real information of the depth of the person who’s profile it belongs to.
 
Now day I keep my profiles simple, giving very little or basic information. Why try to explain who you are with words in a profile, when in a few short conversations and one meeting a persons character is revealed enough for a fundamental evaluation. Whether they are compatible, a person of the life, basic experience in the life, and if they are fake and playing at this, or truly seeking this as a life.
 
Why do we as a community feel it so necessary to criticize, condemn and pass judgment on those we do not know? Why do we feel that we need to put down, express disapproval of those we do know and live there version of the life differently than us?
 
Just my opinions, and as we all know opinions are just thoughts expressed verbally and not facts. Even when some are based in fact, they are still a singular opinion of the person expressing it.
 
 jesiul
 
*When others asked the truth of me, I was convinced it was not the truth they wanted, but an illusion they could bear to live with.*

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 2:56:39 PM   
GeekyGirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: jesiul


I
 
Why do we as a community feel it so necessary to criticize, condemn and pass judgment on those we do not know? Why do we feel that we need to put down, express disapproval of those we do know and live there version of the life differently than us?
 

 
 jesiul
 
*


I wonder about this myself...for example, I've recieved PMs from people who felt the need to take time out of their own busy life to inform me that I'm "fat" or "ugly" or "not genuine" or "not a real submissive."

Why even bother? Why not just support our fellow kinksters and keep our negativity to ourselves?

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:06:00 PM   
beenwhipped


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Status: offline 		this profile is defanatly fake.

http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/286448/rzkw/79247/details.htm

oh wait thats me

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:29:43 PM   
MstrDouglas


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Status: offline 		One sure give away.....they list say "native american" in their profile and have a picture on their profile of an "african american".  It is funny to see how many pictures from other sites wind up on here with totally different locations, descriptions, etc. Can make for interesting reading if nothing else.

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:33:42 PM   
NastyDaddy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

quote:

ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

I once heard of a rather desperate male sub who posted fake domme profiles to distract his counterparts.  


Brilliant!!   Now that's thinking 'outside the box' as they say.  It's definitely playing dirty, but it's still funny. 

You know what, come to think of it (speaking from experience) I'll bet he's still at it and most of the "Domme" profiles on here are just BS.  That would explain a lot. 



In keeping with the brilliant trend... suppose one creates a fake Domme profile, and in order to fan the flys toward it they create a fake male sub profile to post the fake Domme profile on the message board proclaiming it to be "obviouusly fake"!  Now cometh the "Uh Oh Squad"... each squad member clicking on the alleged fake profile link, admiring and complimenting it openly in the thread... what better PR could you possibly ask for... woot woot yay!!! ....is this not sheer uber brilliance?  

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:41:44 PM   
joyinslavery


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

quote:

ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

I once heard of a rather desperate male sub who posted fake domme profiles to distract his counterparts.  


Brilliant!!   Now that's thinking 'outside the box' as they say.  It's definitely playing dirty, but it's still funny. 

You know what, come to think of it (speaking from experience) I'll bet he's still at it and most of the "Domme" profiles on here are just BS.  That would explain a lot. 



In keeping with the brilliant trend... suppose one creates a fake Domme profile, and in order to fan the flys toward it they create a fake male sub profile to post the fake Domme profile on the message board proclaiming it to be "obviouusly fake"!  Now cometh the "Uh Oh Squad"... each squad member clicking on the alleged fake profile link, admiring and complimenting it openly in the thread... what better PR could you possibly ask for... woot woot yay!!! ....is this not sheer uber brilliance?  


YES, lol.  Nasty, you are one clever devil. 

Now I'm off to create some (more) fake profiles...

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:51:38 PM   
joyinslavery


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ORIGINAL: jesiul

So needled to say, what is in a profile (and I do take the time to read them) holds very little value, or any real information of the depth of the person who’s profile it belongs to.
 
Now day I keep my profiles simple, giving very little or basic information. Why try to explain who you are with words in a profile, when in a few short conversations and one meeting a persons character is revealed enough for a fundamental evaluation. Whether they are compatible, a person of the life, basic experience in the life, and if they are fake and playing at this, or truly seeking this as a life.
 
Why do we as a community feel it so necessary to criticize, condemn and pass judgment on those we do not know? Why do we feel that we need to put down, express disapproval of those we do know and live there version of the life differently than us?
 
Just my opinions, and as we all know opinions are just thoughts expressed verbally and not facts. Even when some are based in fact, they are still a singular opinion of the person expressing it.
 
 jesiul
 
*When others asked the truth of me, I was convinced it was not the truth they wanted, but an illusion they could bear to live with.*


I couldn't agree more jesiul.  I'm often surprised at the complete and utter lack of imagination most Dominants (especially Dommes) demonstrate regarding profiles.  I don't think profiles have any real value but I guess that's part of the never-ending cycle here.  Shame really. 

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-Bertrand Russell

Mainstream...The New Alternative

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:57:33 PM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		I had a profile when I fist came here. I had selected my interests and such as a way tojust say a bit about me and get aquainted.  One day some guy emailed me and asked what I was doing on a dating site if I wasn't "looking", so I stripped it down to were it is today. Does it help? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

So I just politely thank them and send them on their way.

So I like to chat and share what I know- is that so hard for people to understand? I I WAS looking, I sure wouldn't be haunting the internet for a contact.

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RE: Fake Profiles - 8/31/2006 3:59:33 PM   
Homestead


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Status: offline 		Fake domme profiles?

Interesting concept for amusement. You could like, get desperate male subs to show up at cop shops wearing diapers-saying you were waiting just outside? I'll have to think about that one a bit.

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