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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

No, that requires too much attention. Strap a butterfly to her cunt, and set it to a threshold just below where she can orgasm. Leave her like that for 6 or 7 hours.   

On the other hand, Homey; you scare me to death!  good lord!!!

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ORIGINAL: krikket

Wow, what an interesting thread..one of the best i've read in awhile -- one that made me stop, think, reassess what i'd like one day.  i've seen the mitts in catalogers and on line, of course, but haven't read much about the ramifications of their actual use.  Between Level and Homestead, and their continued teachings, i find myself still learning and growing, something i miss greatly being alone.  i think one reason this particular "activity" is so appealing is two-fold.  First, due to health issues there are a great many things i can no long "do".  i do understand that what i can or can't do doesn't imply that i'm more or less a submissive, but in my heart, late at night, i can't help wondering if that's really true.  The other reason i think i find this idea so compelling is that it is something i can "do", even with the humiliation part (and normally i'm not real big on humiliation), and it's something that would actually demonstrate to an owner that i can not only talk the talk, but walk the walk.

So..i thank, not only Level and Homestead (who, i'm beginning to think, work together on these threads...lol.  Mstrjx, sublizzie, misoferin and all those contributed. 

huggles to all...
jimini

Hi jimini ...... thank you (and bearlee) for the kind words, but Homestead gets the credit for the thread, I just happened across it.

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ORIGINAL: krikket

First, due to health issues there are a great many things i can no long "do".  i do understand that what i can or can't do doesn't imply that i'm more or less a submissive, but in my heart, late at night, i can't help wondering if that's really true.  huggles to all...
jimini

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I dunno...I honestly do not see it as a big deal to me.  Excretion in front of him is not new to me, so that wouldn't be an issue.  I certainly could handle toilet paper with mittens, but if he wanted to clean up instead, well...ok.  As Dark said, I would find that rather loving. Then again, he may just wish me to be unclean for awhile.  Again, that's his choice and would not be a new experience for me.

Since every time we are together, I am doing for him (except when he allows me to sleep, but even that is at the foot of his bed, dozing off when eventually sleep takes over causing me to cease rubbing his feet), I would find ways of doing without the use of fingers.  Mouths and other body parts work for many things.  I do not need my hands to please him.

I am not discounting anyone else's feelings of despair they may experience in such a situation.  It is just that after you have experienced anything a number of times, it loses its shock value.

What I would find most upsetting about the experience would be if his motivation came from a negative place.  If he did this because I was annoying to him, then obviously I was not submitting in a way that was beneficial to him, and I would be sad that I had not yet been trained to his liking.  In that case, I would welcome the exercise and beg him to teach me all I needed to know, to better submit to him.

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

An annoying part of submission is when it is used to manipulate a Dominant's moods for the benefit of the slave's emotional comfort zones. If this habit is allowed to develop unthinkingly, it can lead to nuerotic obsessive/compulsive behavior on the part of the slave. This is not healthy.

There may be days that I am simply in a crappy mood, and need to work it out on my own. I'm male, and I tend to be stubborn about needing my space-when I need it. When I need alone time, don't screw with me. So "little mary sunshine" waltzing in to "fix" me in these times, will not be well received. Nor will her undergoing an emotional implosion on being told so, help to lighten my stress levels.

So I have come up with some rather coldly calculated excercises to help untrain these impulses. It brings these issues to the surface, and forces the slave to examine and modify them.

I do not want a servant to serve for an attention reward. I will give attention when, and how I see fit to..Not because she is hovering about, trolling for it.. I desire service to be unobtrusive, and competently handled. I give praise sparingly, and for feats above and beyond the pale. The rest I awknowledge as well done, on any particular day.

In training phases I micromange, as a teacher. When the student graduates the lessons SHOULD be remembered. I will begin to lose faith if I have to keep taking her back to school.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

An annoying part of submission is when it is used to manipulate a Dominant's moods for the benefit of the slave's emotional comfort zones. If this habit is allowed to develop unthinkingly, it can lead to nuerotic obsessive/compulsive behavior on the part of the slave. This is not healthy.

There may be days that I am simply in a crappy mood, and need to work it out on my own. I'm male, and I tend to be stubborn about needing my space-when I need it. When I need alone time, don't screw with me. So "little mary sunshine" waltzing in to "fix" me in these times, will not be well received. Nor will her undergoing an emotional implosion on being told so, help to lighten my stress levels.

So I have come up with some rather coldly calculated excercises to help untrain these impulses. It brings these issues to the surface, and forces the slave to examine and modify them.

I do not want a servant to serve for an attention reward. I will give attention when, and how I see fit to..Not because she is hovering about, trolling for it.. I desire service to be unobtrusive, and competently handled. I give praise sparingly, and for feats above and beyond the pale. The rest I awknowledge as well done, on any particular day.

In training phases I micromange, as a teacher. When the student graduates the lessons SHOULD be remembered. I will begin to lose faith if I have to keep taking her back to school.

Homestead, it sounds like you definately want "low maintainance" slaves who require a minimum of "affection" and attention.
I'm on the opposite side of the pole as you are as I don't mind a sub/slave "hovering" around me and having a lot of interaction with her and yes, as much as you dislike it, (frequent) sex.
I'm not as ridgid as you emotionally for sure.
But, that's ok, we are obviously two different kinds of Dominants.
I haven't used mitts for an extended period only for an hour or two playing "kitty" but I do like your idea of using them for extended periods!

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I dunno...I honestly do not see it as a big deal to me.  Excretion in front of him is not new to me, so that wouldn't be an issue.  I certainly could handle toilet paper with mittens, but if he wanted to clean up instead, well...ok.  As Dark said, I would find that rather loving. Then again, he may just wish me to be unclean for awhile.  Again, that's his choice and would not be a new experience for me.

Since every time we are together, I am doing for him (except when he allows me to sleep, but even that is at the foot of his bed, dozing off when eventually sleep takes over causing me to cease rubbing his feet), I would find ways of doing without the use of fingers.  Mouths and other body parts work for many things.  I do not need my hands to please him.

I am not discounting anyone else's feelings of despair they may experience in such a situation.  It is just that after you have experienced anything a number of times, it loses its shock value.

What I would find most upsetting about the experience would be if his motivation came from a negative place.  If he did this because I was annoying to him, then obviously I was not submitting in a way that was beneficial to him, and I would be sad that I had not yet been trained to his liking.  In that case, I would welcome the exercise and beg him to teach me all I needed to know, to better submit to him.

Firstly, you would not be able to manipulate anything in the sorts of mittens I make. The fingers are curled into fists inside of them, and there is over an inch of padding all around. Again, I do not screw around. If I render helpless, a girl will be just that.

As far as being upset about a negative reaction? This is exactly the sort of reason I do this sort of thing. I'm not upset when I see the need to make a modification.

Because,sometimes it's simply  about teaching a girl to get over her own emotional bullshit, and just do what is desired- rather than reading things into it that are NOT.

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I dunno...I honestly do not see it as a big deal to me.  Excretion in front of him is not new to me, so that wouldn't be an issue.  I certainly could handle toilet paper with mittens, but if he wanted to clean up instead, well...ok.  As Dark said, I would find that rather loving. Then again, he may just wish me to be unclean for awhile.  Again, that's his choice and would not be a new experience for me.

Since every time we are together, I am doing for him (except when he allows me to sleep, but even that is at the foot of his bed, dozing off when eventually sleep takes over causing me to cease rubbing his feet), I would find ways of doing without the use of fingers.  Mouths and other body parts work for many things.  I do not need my hands to please him.

I am not discounting anyone else's feelings of despair they may experience in such a situation.  It is just that after you have experienced anything a number of times, it loses its shock value.

What I would find most upsetting about the experience would be if his motivation came from a negative place.  If he did this because I was annoying to him, then obviously I was not submitting in a way that was beneficial to him, and I would be sad that I had not yet been trained to his liking.  In that case, I would welcome the exercise and beg him to teach me all I needed to know, to better submit to him.

Firstly, you would not be able to manipulate anything in the sorts of mittens I make. The fingers are curled into fists inside of them, and there is over an inch of padding all around. Again, I do not screw around. If I render helpless, a girl will be just that.

As far as being upset about a negative reaction? This is exactly the sort of reason I do this sort of thing. I'm not upset when I see the need to make a modification.

Because,sometimes it's simply  about teaching a girl to get over her own emotional bullshit, and just do what is desired- rather than reading things into it that are NOT.

Ah, forgive me then for not thinking so creatively.  Of course the hands would be rendered useless.  That does not, however, change my other points of.....So?  And I don't mean that disrespectfully.  I simply mean that I would just find other ways of utilizing my mind and body to serve him.

Regardless, my point remains- I would welcome the opportunity to learn.  In fact, I am likely to discuss this scenario with my Master.  He might find it an interesting experiment, although at this point I think he might deem it unnecessary.  Perhaps he may consider it in the training of a new slave, however.

Master did other things to help me get over my emotional bullshit, and trust me, I had quite a bit.  They were extreme exercises, too, I might add.  So your point is not lost on me, and it is not my intention to discount it.

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But I want a woman to REALIZE and be in touch with her motivations. Rather than simply reacting to her reptilian subconcious. This allows more flexibility and adaptability of mindset.

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ORIGINAL: Level

What if they had to take a poop?

ROFLMAO

Even with your hands tied your ass still works....but I guess that means to finish the job you might just have to lend them a hand...lol.

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

Well then I would get to lie on the sofa all day while he got me things. Wonder if I could talk him into peeling grapes for me, lol.

Quite frankly I'd be bored stiff unless I could figure out how to turn the pages in a book. I don't watch tv so there wouldn't be anything to fill an empty time period.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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What if they had to take a poop?

ROFLMAO

Even with your hands tied your ass still works....but I guess that means to finish the job you might just have to lend them a hand...lol.

you could use a foot to turn on the bathtub faucet, step in there bend over and rinse clean,  or put enough water in the  tub to sit down and swish around, then step out and sit on a towel that you kick onto the floor and dry off.  Still not the same as those lovely cottenelle wipes, but I could live with that for a day. Could you please give us something more challenging, Homestead??  lol

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Homestead, whatever floats your boat mate!

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: Level

What if they had to take a poop?

ROFLMAO

Even with your hands tied your ass still works....but I guess that means to finish the job you might just have to lend them a hand...lol.

you could use a foot to turn on the bathtub faucet, step in there bend over and rinse clean,  or put enough water in the  tub to sit down and swish around, then step out and sit on a towel that you kick onto the floor and dry off.  Still not the same as those lovely cottenelle wipes, but I could live with that for a day. Could you please give us something more challenging, Homestead??  lol