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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 6:53:29 PM

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 7:01:09 PM

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I think you look fantastic!

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 7:55:07 PM

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Ron, the prob is yer a slow guy. i'm going to start a thread about slow Doms who can't catch us to fuk us... Be looking for it in October.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 8:00:56 PM

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Why? You wanna beef up? Coolio, I can feature that...........but you are better off to say, take me you nasty motherfucker (and mean it).

Then you don't have to do all the IMing thru the >>>embers and waltz into the 40 foot snowbank 80 below shit, you can have a little time to acclimate.........know what I mean?

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 8:02:58 PM

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I don't think that qualifies as the whole truth about your photo.

Did you miss this part?

"If you are only thinking about writing because you like the photo and you haven't finished reading the profile, please do finish reading before you drop me a note. I have a fairly extensive journal here also that you might enjoy reading. I got a few too many of the "nice photo, u r sexxay, u wanna spank my big hard penis?" kinds of responses. So currently my main profile photo is the "plain old me" from a few years ago without any makeup and about 40 lbs heavier than I am now after a couple years of serious fitness efforts."

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 8:19:50 PM

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felicitousdove, well I just like your looks. You look great.
takenOne, your picture just exudes beauty and sexuality.
Bearlee, I always thought you were attractive, now I"m just amazed at your age and how youthful you look.
Three different people, three different looks yet all of them look beautiful to me. Yes, that would intice me to want to get to know them better. I'm drawn to them as a straight person. I can certainly understand why others would be on other levels. One of these people, I'm familar with her posts, so I know that I like the way her mind works.
People tend to look at people who have in the past enriched their lives in one way or another. Someone you thought the world of, he may or may not have been good looking, or fat, or thin. They just have a certain look that has made them attractive to you in one way or another. When you see something similar in someones picture, you're more inclined to take notice. Same way if you didn't like someone from the past. If there appear to be qualities that made the person ugly to you, he can be ugly, or good looking, but you're less inclined to want to be with someone who looks like that.
Take a recent thread about the guy on House. Some women are drooling over him, others think his attitude stinks and he has bug eyes. Change his attitude, his thinking process and most likey 1/2 the women that don't like him, he would now appear to look better. Now, since they're liking him, when a pic that comes up in their profile that has a certain look that they find attractive in House, might be more inclined to find out more about this person.
Are all people like this? No. But this is how I am shallow, and I'm sure many others. If he looks like House, I'm interested, if he looks like House and acts like Andrew Dice Clay, I'm not interested, if he looks like Andrew Dice Clay, he's gonna have to do more to convice me he acts like House and not Andrew Dice Clay, which he's probably not gonna do in the first place, so then we both just move on.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 8:55:16 PM

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Yes, I missed that. Anyway, what I said about not answering honestly was directed at whoever it was who said that she always says she's 92.

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Did you miss this part?

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 8:59:04 PM

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I would agree with you on the importance of a healthy lifestyle. But a lot of things many of us do every day are dangerous. Riding in a car is riskier than a bad diet and sedentary behavior... yet, it's a risk most of us take. Some of your leisure preferences, skiing, travel and horseback riding are riskier than many other sports and hobbies you could choose, but you wouldn't expect anyone to criticize or implore you to alter your behaviors for the sake of safety/health. I only checked your profile, as your skier name got me thinking.

For me personally, it's not about judging other people, it's about making choices that are important to my personal health. I don't care if other people choose to smoke or drink heavily or eat junk food. I just hate cigarette smoke, I find drunk people equally unpleasant to be around, and I don't want to subject myself to the temptation of seeing and smelling junk food when I choose to eat healthy. So basically it's all about me.

My profession is a risky one, but it's my choice and I'm not impacting anyone else with what I do. I would understand the choice of a prospective partner who didn't want to date me because of my risky profession. I do lay it out right up front that I could very possibly not be coming home from any given day on the job. My safety record so far is very good, but that doesn't change the inherent risks of the profession itself.

What you are saying here is the point I was making to Skier, who consistently mentions weight as a health risk. Sure, there are lots of risks, but, as I pointed out, there are a lot of health risks many people take, and it seems hypocritical to tell others to decrease their personal health risks while at the same time being proud of the personal risks he chooses to engage in.

I don't care what risks he (or anyone) takes with his own life.... unless it causes me, or anyone else to have to engage in forced, risky behavior ourselves. The fact that a stranger may enjoy skiing, junk food, a risky job, etc has no bearing on my well-being whatsoever. Hey, it's all about me too. : )

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 10:03:51 PM

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Why must anyone explain or justify the reasons we find others attractive ....I can't justify to you why I like ketchup on my scrambled eggs....I just do....I can't tell you why I prefer tall attractive men....I just do....am I going to respond to a short ugly man...probably not as a future Dom.... because of his looks...but as a friend I would....but why would I waste his time or mine leading him on to believe there might be more....I can't be intimate with someone I am not attracted to...just as I don't like scrambled eggs without ketchup....to some that is shallow....but to me...it's honest....and I think if people were more honest...we wouldn't feel the need to justify.....

You're right. Attraction is not a choice. You can't rationalize yourself into being attracted to someone. Either you're attracted to a person, or you're not.

Attraction is not even a "preference," as some people seem believe. Once again, either you're attracted to someone, or you're not.

High-attraction, low-attraction or no-attraction to someone doesn't make you good, bad, shallow, deep, or anything in-between. It's just who you are.

Therefore, it's pointless to even try justifying or defending the reasons why you are, aren't, should be, or shouldn't be attracted to someone.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/6/2006 11:00:30 PM

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Why must anyone explain or justify the reasons we find others attractive ....I can't justify to you why I like ketchup on my scrambled eggs....I just do....I can't tell you why I prefer tall attractive men....I just do....am I going to respond to a short ugly man...probably not as a future Dom.... because of his looks...but as a friend I would....but why would I waste his time or mine leading him on to believe there might be more....I can't be intimate with someone I am not attracted to...just as I don't like scrambled eggs without ketchup....to some that is shallow....but to me...it's honest....and I think if people were more honest...we wouldn't feel the need to justify.....

You're right. Attraction is not a choice. You can't rationalize yourself into being attracted to someone. Either you're attracted to a person, or you're not.

Attraction is not even a "preference," as some people seem believe. Once again, either you're attracted to someone, or you're not.

High-attraction, low-attraction or no-attraction to someone doesn't make you good, bad, shallow, deep, or anything in-between. It's just who you are.

Therefore, it's pointless to even try justifying or defending the reasons why you are, aren't, should be, or shouldn't be attracted to someone.

No one should have to justify who they find attractive. Luckily there is a broad spectrum of what "attractive" is. What I think should be justified (theoretically anyway) is why someone would think it's okay to make an experiment as the OP did, and then move (in disguise) to a message board, to single out a segment of people to "out" (dump on)... simply because he doesn't seem to find that segment of the population 'attractive'.

No one ever finds it hypocritical that the short woman is lusting after the tall guy. The size of one person, or the attractive status of another, doesn't necessarily mean they will be attracted to a similar type. The nature of the OP seems quite silly to me. And, it makes me wonder... will the OP find himself hypocritical if he should become attracted to a girl who doesn't lie about her photo, or who doesn't make up secret experiments to test his character upon e-mailing him...

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 5:14:01 AM

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It helps but it doesn't always do the "trick."

In my own case, I gained a massive amount of weight (about 100lbs) over a course of less than 6months when I first went on birth control pills.

Exercise and less food helped take about a third or so of that weight off...since then, it's been 3 years and the other 60lbs is just not coming off. I figure if I can't get if off eating 1500cal a day and working out 5x a week, then the weight just by gosh isn't coming off and I'm going to learn to live with it!

Have you been to an endrocrinologist? If not, I strongly suggest you get a recommendation from a doctor you trust. What you're describing is unusual and suggests something that should be checked by a medical specialist. While currently you only experience the annoyance and frustration of no weightloss, there may be other effects, later, that aren't so relatively benign. If you don't have medical insurance, the battery of tests they will run are not cheap, but it still might be very worth it. Plus, you might end up with a medically sound solution to the no weight loss issue. :-)

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 5:28:21 AM

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Aawwww, bandit, thanks. But you have to admit, I'm older than a lot of guys even in their late 50s are looking for. Isn't that the purpose of this thread; what it is people look for? It's wierd to me a 55 year old would want a girl in her 20s, but some do and consider me far too old.

Like many of the BBWs here...I consider myself okay looking and I actually don't consider myself 'old' either, really. I can out-hike most guys in their 40s. LOL

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 5:43:42 AM

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But you are the exception to the rule. You look mahvolous!!!

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 6:04:42 AM

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Well Najakcharmer,

You claim the cause(s) of obesity is (are) a matter of hard science. But the dozens and dozens of research papers I've read on the subject make it clear that it is anything but.    The entire process is poorly understood. At best there seems to be many causes for obesisty, and it is generally recoginzed as one of the most complex, inscrutable matters being researched today But you seem to have it all figured-out, and in your book it is all very simple--just a matter of caloric intake and calories burned. Hardly anything deeper or more complex than that.

So, I will be awaiting anxiously to see your work published in a peer reviewed publication, and am ready to applaud your winning a Nobel Prize. I'm just so glad you've got the obesity thing so figured-out.   Thousands of other researchers will now be glad they can leave the field and move on to new areas that need further discovery.

Tsk, tsk.   Another know-it-all, who doesn't know jack shit.      A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

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> What you put in your mouth and how much you exercise has
> a heck of a lot to do with your weight and body composition.

Go tell that to anorexics! Go tell anorexics that all they have
to do is eat more, and exercise less. Tell them they have
no discipline.

Um....read again. What you eat and how much physical activity you perform has a lot to do with your weight and body composition. Likewise, how much gas and oil you put in your car has a lot to do with making it run. There are many other contributing factors to how efficiently a human body or a car burns fuel, but it is impossible to deny that basic input of fuel and output of energy has a heck of a lot to do with the operation.

This is a highly emotional issue, but try to forget about the emotions attached and think about it as a basic physics equation. Yes, the manner in which the human body burns or stores fuel, partitions calories, depletes and refills glycogen stores, etc, is influenced by many things. But the basic equation is still calories in = either fuel burned or fuel stored as fat.

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A normal person does not have to go around feeling faint
and hungry all day to maintain their weight.

That is quite true, though attempting a low fat/high glycemic index carbohydrate diet will have this effect.

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Normal people feel a burst of energy when they eat food. When obese
people eat food, instead of feeling a burst of energy they
feel tired. The more energy you feel you have, the more
you will exercise.

Um, this has a lot to do with glycemic index, insulin sensitivity and glycogen storage. Manipulating your macronutrient percentages and glycemic index works very nicely for everyone regardless of their weight if you want your food to make you feel energetic instead of tired. It isn't obesity itself that causes the issue. Obesity is one result of problems with the insulin/glucagon cycle, eg, lack of insulin sensitivity. That is the direct cause of the specific symptoms you are describing. And there is a fix for it.

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But myths are hard to destroy.

Yeah, they are, which is why I prefer hard science.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 6:08:49 AM

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Sorry WTH, but is this in retaliation to the thread where she disagreed that it wasn't possible for a crock to stand on it's legs like godzilla? It sure looks like it. It seems that you're reacting rather harsh to her based on this thread alone.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 2:51:55 PM

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what an interesting concept...I think it tells far more about you. Using two pictures is kinda wrong I think.

My girl jerri is not the body type I would have normally chosen, usually preferring slimmer ladies yet she is a great girl. She has lots going on, is intelligent and i can discuss things with her. We have fun. We play and go to Kink Events. We are accepted and no one has ever said anything derogatory.

I read this to girl jerri and she said "i wonder what BBW turned him down and pissed in his cheerios!" See she is intelligent.

Aren't there better things to spend time on ?

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/7/2006 2:55:45 PM

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You claim the cause(s) of obesity is (are) a matter of hard science. But the dozens and dozens of research papers I've read on the subject make it clear that it is anything but. The entire process is poorly understood.

I think you may be a little unclear on the meaning of the term "hard science". Science is a rational process of finding answers. It is not a promise that all the answers already exist. What we know about the universe is constantly changing, because science is a dynamic and continuing process of investigation that builds on all the data that has been collected before.

The fact that we do not have a 100% complete understanding of the human genome is not an excuse to whip out a Ouija board to continue the investigation. The process of discovery is what science is, and we continue the process in the best ways we know how, building on the data that's already been proven in order to help us find out the things we don't know for sure yet. The causes of obesity are indeed a matter for scientific investigation, for the specific reason that we don't yet know all of the answers. But we can use what we do know to help us find out more.

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At best there seems to be many causes for obesisty, and it is generally recoginzed as one of the most complex, inscrutable matters being researched today But you seem to have it all figured-out, and in your book it is all very simple--just a matter of caloric intake and calories burned. Hardly anything deeper or more complex than that.

You seem to have a habit of consistently misreading my posts. There are a great many factors that contribute to the biodynamics of the human fuel burning and storage system. The basic underlying equation is still fuel in, energy out. Partitioning of fuel depends on things like macronutrient percentage and factors influencing an individual's metabolism, such as insulin sensitivity.

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So, I will be awaiting anxiously to see your work published in a peer reviewed publication

*chuckle* It has been, but not in this field. I will point you to the work of Lyle McDonald and Dan Duchaine if you would like to do some specific research on this subject.

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I'm just so glad you've got the obesity thing so figured-out. Thousands of other researchers will now be glad they can leave the field and move on to new areas that need further discovery.

Tsk, tsk. Another know-it-all, who doesn't know jack shit. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

I have said nothing of the sort, and the personal remarks are inappropriate and uncalled for.

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RE: Drop and give me twenty - 11/22/2006 8:36:44 AM

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disregard...

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 11/22/2006 8:37:58 AM

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It amazes me how submissives and even others will jump on anyone who says anything against BBWs as shallow assholes and yet...

Those very same women do not bother emailing anyone who isn't thin and handsome with a picture. So not only are some (because of course the 800 women who respond to this are ALL exceptions) just as shallow as male doms, they are also hypocrites as well.

I did a test of a couple of profiles, I even used the same wording just different pictures, one showing a "handsome" guy, one showing an "ugly " guy and another blank.

I only got responses from the "handsome" picture. Almost all were women that the ugly guy might have considered being seen with.

Now love and lust come in strange packages, I will admit that and heck, I have known large women I have lusted after for what was inside them. That said, for them to NOT respond to the words, the SAME words, not until they were tied to a handsome face is hypocritical and far more shallow than men who at least have the integrity to admit looks matter.

So, lets see where this thread goes other than a flame fest against me for pointing out the fat elephant in the corner.

It's ALL about vanity.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 11/22/2006 10:13:04 AM

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HMM he is beeing very dishonest and deseptive not only putting out fake messages with fake photos but changing his name here as well. and he wants us all to feel bad for OUR behavior, calling US hypocritical!!! LOL which do you want to be dear anondom the pot or the kettle.

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