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RumpusParable -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 3:21:11 PM)

To touch on the specific situation of "forced-fem" CDing, I can give a more clear answer:

For the most part, no, not interested.  I enjoy forced-fem when it's truly forced, in someone who doesn't crave or enjoy it.

I've had zero good experiences with those who desire forced-fem cross-dressing.  So now, I am leery of any who contact me about that.




Mikal -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 3:26:35 PM)

I'm fine with crossdressers. If I'm going to have a real & lasting relationship with a CD, then I'd prefer one who is more into being feminine all the time, or at least more often than not. My sexual preference is for women, so the more 'womanlike' the CD is, the more comfortable and sexually interested I'll be.
 
I don't like drama at the best of times, but that includes everyone, not just CD's. And for gawds sake, leave my clothes and makeup ALONE!!! Touch my undergarments, and castration had better be a fantasy you want to become reality.... *evil eye*
 
Just a little sidetrack, but is anyone else here picky about their clothing or somesuch thing?




sissifytoserve -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 3:53:03 PM)

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I've had zero good experiences with those who desire forced-fem cross-dressing. So now, I am leery of any who contact me about that.


Not to worry...

Some of us crossdressers are just as leery of intolerant and prejudice people.


We are just as tired of the garbage and insults hurled at us by so-called "dommes" as well.






sissifytoserve -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 3:59:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FemmeOwner

Truly said; yet at the same time, they write to me anyway and tell me how "wrong" I am for not considering them as my slave and how they will "do anything" as long as I will let them dress feminine. When "do anything" is followed by "as long as" I tend to start getting snarky. I mean... I state perfectly clearly what I want and don't want. I am not trying to convince anyone to change to be what I want; I am trying to find someone with compatible interests. I am more than willing to live and let live. What I don't like is so-called "slaves" insisting that I change MY parameters to meet their kink.



The don't domme a CD...its really that simple.




sissifytoserve -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 4:00:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FemmeOwner



Well, first off, I never said if I was or wasn't a cross-dresser. For the record, I don't really consider myself one. Yet, to answer your question if we hit it off and she didn't like something else about me, I would give it up for her. I am a realist and understand that not everyone will be 100% compatible. There might be certain things about her that I don't like, but if overall she makes me feel happy I would over look those small faults.



I wouldn't change MY SELF for someone else.




sissifytoserve -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 4:02:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Morrigel
Sometimes it is easier to shift the burden to a domme's shoulders.

--M




And sometimes it's easier to take your frustrations and insecurities out on your sub/slave or other gender.




Morrigel -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/8/2006 8:24:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve
And sometimes it's easier to take your frustrations and insecurities out on your sub/slave or other gender.


Wtf are you talking about?  Does it ever bother you that no one but you really knows?

--M




iwearpanties -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 2:50:30 AM)

hello with many great points here  i can understand why most Mistress'es wont deal witha cds.I ve dressed and worn females things for many yrs and too this date i cant honsetly tell you why.but i dont pass nor seek too pass as female and i too have seen where many CDs / TVS  try too look overly fem or in a kinder way too put it  way to much make up and the boobs way over done . as a cd id never try too out dress or out class a Mistress i know its rare when one finds a Mistress willing and able too deal with we type subs. IM not take sides either way but too those of you MIstress whos deal with CDs thank you for this none-passable CD.also to those who dont we need you just as much ......




LadyEllen -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 3:42:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

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ORIGINAL: FemmeOwner



Well, first off, I never said if I was or wasn't a cross-dresser. For the record, I don't really consider myself one. Yet, to answer your question if we hit it off and she didn't like something else about me, I would give it up for her. I am a realist and understand that not everyone will be 100% compatible. There might be certain things about her that I don't like, but if overall she makes me feel happy I would over look those small faults.



I wouldn't change MY SELF for someone else.


We got the message a while ago sissify; you seem to seek a Lady who will love you and your crossdressing 100%, and not think she is better than you, still less act on that premise. Thats OK; everyone wants something different and your wants are no less valid just because they are probably less achievable than others.

I wont go into the problem you have, because I think you know already that most Ladies prefer a man to look like a man, and those Ladies who dont mind or like crossdressing men seek a man who is submissive first and crossdressing second. Those Ladies who prefer girls meanwhile, are going to look for a girl, rather than a guy who looks like a girl.

You would have so much a better chance, if you took the attitude of another guy who posted here, (dont recall your ID sorry, but FemmeOwner said the same more or less), who out of love for the Lady he seeks, would give up the crossdressing as a sacrifice to her, if that was what she wanted. That, to me, displays the kind of devotion that is attractive and evidences that it is the Lady who is first in everything for that poster; the sort of devotion that might well find its reward in being allowed to crossdress even though she doesnt particularly like it, perhaps.

I feel for the obvious anger and resentment that you display you know? Even though it gets repetitive and boring and annoying at times, to me it says that you have been hurt a lot by something in your life at some stage. I can identify with that - indeed I'm not fully over it myself, but we would all really like to see the good sides of you, and that cant happen until you start, in pop-psych terms, working through whatever it was. Its not easy, but in my opinion and experience its the only way forward for you in getting you to where you want to be, and not stuck in the same mindset forever.

E




pinkkeith -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 4:54:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

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ORIGINAL: FemmeOwner

Well, first off, I never said if I was or wasn't a cross-dresser. For the record, I don't really consider myself one. Yet, to answer your question if we hit it off and she didn't like something else about me, I would give it up for her. I am a realist and understand that not everyone will be 100% compatible. There might be certain things about her that I don't like, but if overall she makes me feel happy I would over look those small faults.



I wouldn't change MY SELF for someone else.
 

You would have so much a better chance, if you took the attitude of another guy who posted here, (dont recall your ID sorry, but FemmeOwner said the same more or less), who out of love for the Lady he seeks, would give up the crossdressing as a sacrifice to her, if that was what she wanted. That, to me, displays the kind of devotion that is attractive and evidences that it is the Lady who is first in everything for that poster; the sort of devotion that might well find its reward in being allowed to crossdress even though she doesnt particularly like it, perhaps. 


That is actually my words, not FemmeOwer's words that are quoted above. I don't really consider myself a cross-dresser. The only time I ever put on the clothing of the opposite sex is when the opposite sex does it to me. I don't do it on my own, or for my own pleasure, but because that is what she wants. Frankly, I thought this was the biggest form of Domme/msub play, but maybe I just attract those type of Dommes.

Perhaps the first time I was cross-dressed was when I was five, maybe six years old. I had a female friend and we use to play dress up together. I honestly don't remember how it started, but I never really thought there was anything wrong or abnormal about it at that age. Later in life while in college I meet a few women who wanted to put make-up on me and dress me up. I played along and enjoyed it.

My first true FemDom experience happened later in life when I was about thirty years old. One of her kinks was to dress me up and treat me as a woman. I liked the emotional connection it made between the two of us. It made me feel closer to her emotionally and sexually. It wasn't really humilation. I don't really know how to explain it other then it made her happy to teach me what she goes through as a woman. (I'm trying to leave the details out, but I hope you get the picture.) 




Msnaughtyjo -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 5:05:03 AM)

i simply adore crossdressers, and tv's , exploring your or others sexuality is fun and rewarding !!!




FemmeOwner -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 6:46:59 AM)

I know it is that simple, and I do not.  However, the OP was asking, and I both replied, and gave my reasons.  That was the whole point of the thread... for discussion.  And we are discussing it.  No need to get your panties in a twist! :)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve
The don't domme a CD...its really that simple.





FemmeOwner -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 6:55:17 AM)

Geez, are you having a bad day, or what?  I don't think she, or anyone here, was *knocking* cross dressers.  There are some of us who are not interested.  We are not PREJUDICED, we're not INTOLERANT, we're just not interested.  I like a nice, masculine looking guy at my feet, and that is no more WRONG than it is for you to want to look like a pretty girl at your Mistress' feet.  I'm not trying to change anyone to be something other than what they want to be; in fact, in my profile you will find that I specifically request NO CD/TV/TS.  And in fact I have any number of quite close CD/TV/TS friends.  What I want in my slave at my feet, however, is something different.  That does not make me wrong, or intolerant, or prejudiced, any more than if I had stated that I only wanted a male, or female, or tall, or short, or black or white or fat or thin.... it just makes me someone who knows what I want.  It is YOU who have the problem with me, not vice versa.

I could in fact turn it around and say that YOU are the one being intolerant and prejudiced... because we don't want what you want, we're somehow bad or wrong.

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve
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I've had zero good experiences with those who desire forced-fem cross-dressing. So now, I am leery of any who contact me about that.


Not to worry...

Some of us crossdressers are just as leery of intolerant and prejudice people.


We are just as tired of the garbage and insults hurled at us by so-called "dommes" as well.







DianeB269 -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 6:59:30 AM)

I'm not into to men dressed like women.

Diane




LaTigresse -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 7:04:32 AM)

Personally an effeminate man does nothing for me. Then again, a butch woman does not interest me at all either. I kinda like the obviously feminine women.




FemmeOwner -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 7:56:34 AM)

Absolutely!  I'd love to get my hands on a female, and dress her all up in revealing, skimpy clothes, or sultry, slinky clothes, or cute hip clothes with her bellybutton pierced... I browse through Express and the Gap and Banana Republic and Victoria's Secret and Saks Fifth Avenue and Wicked Temptations with equal interest, thinking how much fun I could have with a female slave!!! :)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Personally an effeminate man does nothing for me. Then again, a butch woman does not interest me at all either. I kinda like the obviously feminine women.




AcademyForSlaves -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 5:19:30 PM)

Hi.

I love crossdressers!!

I also like feminizing male slaves and I train sissy slaves too. Nothing is as fun as dressing a man in pretty lingerie, sexy silky panties, and high heel ladies shoes.




DixonTSmiss -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/9/2006 5:42:12 PM)

i have in my profile that i prefer t girls or cross dressers but all i get is request for sex from horny guys in panties---wonders if there are any serious t girl subbie's on collar me ????

Mistress Robyn




LadyEllen -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/12/2006 5:18:25 AM)

There are loads of 'em Dixon!

But the problem really, is that there's a wide spectrum of types and little means to tell them apart. If you look through the trans profiles there's everything there, just as there is with male and female profiles. The only means of differentiating is in their interests selections, if they've made them, or by the picture they might choose to show. Just for sample purposes, there's a big difference IMO between the maid, the sissy, the straight fetishist and the ones who go all out to look like normal, everyday women (not an exhaustive list of types btw) - and that difference I feel probably gives an indication as to what sort of sub they are too, what they are looking for and so on. On top of that there are a lot of mixed types, plus those who need "forcing" for humiliatory purposes and those who require force only to return to their everyday persona.

I also feel, that what someone said in a recent thread is very true of the whole crossdressing phenomena; that it is at some root level, an expression of being less than a "real man". We could also infer the whole "castration anxiety" thing from Freudian psychology of course, which is related to the same inner narrative. What this says about women is not exactly PC though! The point is however, that if the above is true, then we are dealing with a huge number of heterosexual men, of the very best sort (sensitive, caring, selfless and loving), who nonetheless dont think they are worthy of the women whom they desire, by comparison to "real men". The irony being of course, that its the sensitive, caring, selfless, loving men who are the real men.

At the same time, throw into the mix that most heterosexual women prefer their men to look like men, and the circle is complete in these men's minds; they dont feel they measure up, and even the women whom they adore dont feel they measure up either. So we find some of the best men on the planet, hiding their interests, suppressing something so important to them and striving instead to be the "real men" which is what society in general encourages them to be.

And then we also find those who have thrown off that suppression - often after divorce from unaccepting wives who discovered or were told about their husbands' crossdressing. They come here angry, bitter and resentful, or they come here desperate to find a woman who will see past the crossdressing label and see them for who they are. Both generally find that even on a site such as this, there is little acceptance and still less interest. That they become cynical is only to be expected.

And then, just as an afterthought, I wonder whether crossdressers ever think to themselves, what kind of woman would be interested in them? I can easily imagine, given their circumstances, that they might feel that any woman who might show interest must have something wrong with her? After all, if she were "normal" (whatever that might mean), surely she would go for the "real men"?

But even having said all that, there are quite a few heterosexual couples out there, the male of which crossdresses. In fact I had a shock last week when I visited some friends and this woman welcomed me at the door - I didnt recognise him at all! So there is hope.








MsCece2u -> RE: Do Mistresses like Cross-Dressers ? (12/12/2006 7:49:38 AM)

Personally I really didn't think I was into cross dressers until I happen to meet a sub and he enjoyed wearing panties as time went on I kept adding things to his attire because it gave Me a thrill.  Now I don't discriminate against cross dressers I find them a most enjoyable.




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