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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 7:12:34 AM   
raiken


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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: CruelAussie

I am a dom / master who has always had a deep desire to dominate married woman without their husband knowledge.

I would love to hear from Doms with a similar experences, and sub women, especially marred, on their opinions.


I refuse to dominate a married female without her husband's knowledge. Not only is it dishonorable, debasing and limited, but it can make enemies for you. Oscar Wilde once wrote that the one charm of marriage was that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties. That may have been true in his time, but I feel—or have deluded myself into thinking—that many modern marriages in general have evolved, somewhat. Being honest and open, while sometimes a somewhat less traveled upon path, is far more rewarding in the end.




i agree with the thought that modern society (perhaps) has changed a bit in the evolution of what may be a newer mindset between married individuals, however, if you were to live in my town, it seems nothing about the cheating mentality has changed all that much.  It has nothing to do with honesty or valor, and everything to do with that good ole temporary high.  This is the part that (i believe) will not change, it is too in grained in human nature....the sneaking, the allure, the excitment of getting over, the challenges cheating presents...those in bored or stale marriages formed from financial convenience...the kids, the community name, etc.  so many factors here.  Folks live with it, and shut out the guilt of dishonesty, so much so, that they become numb....  those who feel trapped...for them...cheating is their drug.  Those who don't know how to commit, for what ever personal issues they have, cheating is their outlet...etc

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RE: Married Woman Looking For More - 9/30/2006 7:29:17 AM   
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Yeah, I certainly understand that point of view.  But sometimes it's nice to take a taste from the honeypot anyway.

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That's not my cup of tea.

1. I don't want to be shot.

2. If someone is to be my sub, it's to be FULL TIME. I'm not going to be someones part time dom and number 2 in there life.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 7:45:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: raiken

...it is too in grained in human nature....the sneaking, the allure, the excitment of getting over, the challenges cheating presents...those in bored or stale marriages formed from financial convenience...the kids, the community name, etc. so many factors here. Folks live with it, and shut out the guilt of dishonesty, so much so, that they become numb.... those who feel trapped...for them...cheating is their drug. Those who don't know how to commit, for what ever personal issues they have, cheating is their outlet...etc


So well described!

It is certainly beneath me to be their "outlet." If that is one's personal fetish, I know the opportunities abound, and I encourage their hedonism. Supporting infidelity in marriage through deception is just not a high I prefer.


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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 7:53:34 AM   
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I personally don't understand the cheating mindset.  I waited a long time to find the right one for a lifetime commited relationship.  That's one thing that makes the marriage itself so special.  We can talk about anything together, so there's no need to go elsewhere. 
 
Of course the other issues would be STDs and the fact that I trust liars as far as I can throw them.  I certainly would never lower myself to the level of being a cheater.  The thought makes me cringe.  I have more honor than that, not to mention love and respect for my mate.
 
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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 8:38:52 AM   
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I personally don't understand the cheating mindset. I waited a long time to find the right one for a lifetime commited relationship. That's one thing that makes the marriage itself so special. We can talk about anything together, so there's no need to go elsewhere.

Of course the other issues would be STDs and the fact that I trust liars as far as I can throw them. I certainly would never lower myself to the level of being a cheater. The thought makes me cringe. I have more honor than that, not to mention love and respect for my mate.


Zumala, well said. Married or not, I will further say your logic, loyalty and openness is ideal.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 9:40:36 AM   
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I can understand the thrill of taking another man's "property" and any man that says they don't is not being true to themselves. There is a difference between knowing and acting on it though. But then again I still believe that deep down our society was built on the principle of you can have what you can defend, so if you can take her away for a time be my guest. Have fun trying to take mine. None of them will go, they will probably laugh in your face and if you pick the right one on the wrong day MY gun isn't exactly what you have to worry about. Not my problem if "he" isn't taking care of things at home enough for "her" to stray. I'm not the one who stood up and made "him" a promise.

Most people now a days enter into marriage they way the get a new cell phone contract, great until a better plan or shiney new phone comes around (and they ALWAYS come around). That vow doesn't mean anything to them anyway. The ones that do take their vows seriously aren't going anywhere. I always get a kick out of those Jerry Springer moments when the guy wants to kick the strangers ass for stealing his woman. She's the one they should be mad at. Personally I'm flattered when a someone tries to hit on my wife and even more in love with her when she turns them away. Then again we have a GOOD marriage.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 9:48:31 AM   
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tade

Very good post!!!

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 10:12:11 AM   
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Yeah, I agree.

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RE: Married Woman Looking For More - 9/30/2006 3:48:19 PM   
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I'm a sub women that had an affair on her (previously) vanilla husband... The other guy is a Dom and a good friend of ours... You're right... it was hot as hell at the time... but my husband found out and the after effects were/are terrible... I'm trying to work things out with my husband but I"m a mess emotionally now and so is he... My situation may differ from yours though, because I was had strong feelings for the Dom...

So ya... in my opinion... it is not worth it... it's a fun fantasy... but it should stay just a fantasy.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 4:17:14 PM   
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Thankyou for all for you comments. Those that posted sensible comments, even if you don’t agree with the subject, I especially thank you. It was good to read your opinion.
Those that passed moral judgement..   GET OVER YOURSELVES, and HAVE A LOOK AROUND AT LIFE

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 4:28:30 PM   
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Not so long back i was of the opinion each to their own. You want to cheat, be with married men / women so be it - ur choice. Now i've tasted this particular bad apple i feel completely different. A while back i was in a dom / sub relationship with a man who was married to a vanilla woman. We were very happy and he was planning to leave his wife for me but when it came down to it he couldnt do it to his child and he stayed put. It absolutley broke my heart and caused a lot of hurt for said dom and his family. We stayed apart for a while but eventually went back for more and again he was leaving.This time i felt guilty and called the whole thing off. My point and yes ive finally got to it is that our relationship caused a lot of heartache and pain for everyone involved and still is doing. Its far from big and clever to mess with peoples lives and i learnt this the hard way.
 
Those that passed moral judgement..   GET OVER YOURSELVES, and HAVE A LOOK AROUND AT LIFE
I will pass moral judgement and feel i have every right to do so. I don't need to get over myself - i only have to live with what i did as you will.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 4:52:15 PM   
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This is just my imput on things if a married Dominant is married to a vanilla woman ... to me that is unfaithful to her let alone yourself. This lifestyle is based on Honesty, trust and communication. If you do not have those either vanilla or BDSM then what do you have? Nothing! If you are not telling the ones your with what is going on then, you are not lying to them but yourself. There are ones out there that abuse this lifestyle and to me those are trolls.... so those need to crawl back under the bridge that they came from.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 6:50:56 PM   
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Oh gee! its another "cheating thread!" Boy are you in for it here on this site! The holier than thou brigade loves to jump into this one. We here on collarme can slap each other around, have toilet play, live with 6 lovers at the same time and any number of other off the wall things in the eyes of the mainstream world, but by golly, go get a secret lover and you're doomed. Same old same old.. 

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 7:01:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sophia37

Oh gee! its another "cheating thread!" Boy are you in for it here on this site! The holier than thou brigade loves to jump into this one. We here on collarme can slap each other around, have toilet play, live with 6 lovers at the same time and any number of other off the wall things in the eyes of the mainstream world, but by golly, go get a secret lover and you're doomed. Same old same old.. 


I find it equally amusing that so many of the "trust honor and commitment" crowd never make a relationship last more than six months.

I guess short-term serial monogamy is "superior."

Who knew?   

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 8:26:51 PM   
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at some point your husband was your best friend, at some point he was the world....how can some one hurt some one they loved so passionatly, doe he not deserve the respect of hearing "i am over you" and you moving on? isnt that the classier way to go?

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 8:30:30 PM   
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at some point your husband was your best friend, at some point he was the world....how can some one hurt some one they loved so passionatly, doe he not deserve the respect of hearing "i am over you" and you moving on? isnt that the classier way to go?


You've never heard of  "Have your cake, and eat it too?"

I'm shocked!

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 8:41:23 PM   
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Married people should cheat with married people (or people so involved they are basically married.) It's the only way it can work without people getting hurt, especially where love is involved.


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RE: Married Woman Looking For More - 9/30/2006 8:51:44 PM   
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Personally I find adulterers disgusting.

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ORIGINAL: CruelAussie

I am a dom / master who has always had a deep desire to dominate married woman without their husband knowledge.

I have been lucky over the years that i have had  good success finding such women. Sometimes their husbands knew but did not participate, and while not quite as exciting still verey enjoyable.

It now seems that these women are few and far between. Are all women now getting all they need from their relationships or has times changes so much that they bury their desires rather that act on them in secret.

I would love to hear from Doms with a similar experences, and sub women, especially marred, on their opinion

Thank You for reading my Post
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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 9:11:14 PM   
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That makes perfect sense...Then two marriages can be ruined, instead of just one.

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RE: Married Women - 9/30/2006 9:15:01 PM   
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that's the most screwed up reasoning I ever heard.  You have 4 people here (2 couples)... 2 cheating, 2 being cheated on (hello? HURT! Where do you get from this that no one gets hurt? 

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ORIGINAL: Kashan

Married people should cheat with married people (or people so involved they are basically married.) It's the only way it can work without people getting hurt, especially where love is involved.



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