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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/5/2006 4:10:26 PM

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it's way old on both coasts.

It is just like, WAY old, dude. Like, you would't even believe how old it is, man. Like, WAY old doesn't even tell it, it's just old. Seriously. Way old.

Sorry, but if you're gonna bitch someone else out on using old sayings, "way" anything is not the way to describe it. It is like, SO 2005.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/5/2006 7:40:41 PM

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it's way old on both coasts.

It is just like, WAY old, dude. Like, you would't even believe how old it is, man. Like, WAY old doesn't even tell it, it's just old. Seriously. Way old.

Sorry, but if you're gonna bitch someone else out on using old sayings, "way" anything is not the way to describe it. It is like, SO 2005.

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benji

thanks for correcting me aboot that, eh?

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/5/2006 8:29:57 PM

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I think all that we do involves a little brain washing ...

I don't know, talking with some of you people and reading your profiles ... you all have dirty minds that no amount of washing will ever clean. ROFL

BTW, that's not a complaint - I LOVE YOU PEOPLE!!!! LOL

lol washing away all my dirty thoughts! hush your mouth...

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/6/2006 1:04:39 PM

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I'd like to comment from the nerdy side, as a mental health pro. Hypnosis is generally used to help people relax and become more open to feeling positive or willing about suggestions. Hypnosis at the basic level combines verbal skills (words, pacing and tone) with certain types of body language. Very dynamic public speakers know how to do this to an extent, as well as good con artists. It is the art of inducing people into a state where they are more vulnerable to suggestion. When it comes to the crazy stage performances where people do odd things they don't remember, you're entering quack territory. Supposedly this can be done with some people quickly (as shown on stage), but it would take a great deal of skill to do correctly and ethically. Deep hypnosis done by a trained professional takes a little while, especially the first time, and is akin to a semi-dream-like state.

As for brain washing, what are you hoping that result will be? People in relationships do little bits of brainwashing to each other all of the time. To witness some horrible, more extreme examples, just hang out with women who won't leave abusive relationships. On a more sain level, it's that pair of shoes she wears even though she hates how they feel, because of the reinforcement she gets for wearing them that isn't there when she puts on the sneakers. It's the way he can't sleep on the wrong side of the bed, even when alone at a hotel. It's the way someone jumps at the sound at squeeling brakes for weeks after a car accident. Now, do it to someone on purpose and you have basic brain washing. Do you want them to forget their whole identity? Or just get a boner when you flog 'em instead of going limp? Context matters to ethics, of course.

For techniques, I suggest reading about how people in the Armed Forces are trained - they are highly effective at brain washing their recruits into soldiers, although there is no attempt to return them to civilians afterwards. Everyone else has chided you about ethics, so I won't bother going into that. I wonder what makes it more ethical to some when the name has been changed..?

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/6/2006 4:07:40 PM

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Now, do it to someone on purpose and you have basic brain washing. Do you want them to forget their whole identity? Or just get a boner when you flog 'em instead of going limp?
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ethics aside for a moment is this even possible? I have heard of erections caused by terror but a response like this? It seems unlikely but great fuel for a twisted fantasy.
Wouldn’t viraga or some other drugs cause an involuntary arousal Erection while being flogged?

I imagine a sub could be conditioned over time to associate pain with arousal. I have no idea where this could be learned if it is possible.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/7/2006 12:17:10 AM

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I imagine a sub could be conditioned over time to associate pain with arousal. I have no idea where this could be learned if it is possible.

I don't know how to do it either, but if the more difficult task of making a woman cum on command can happen, male arousal associated with pain is very definitely possible, and even easier in my opinion.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/7/2006 6:02:02 AM

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I am interested in hearing from Mistresses that have used different methods of BRAINWASHING to control their slave. I would like to find out more about it. Thanks.

(I have no idea why there is a vanilla cone next to my post!!!)

Don't know of anyone who brainwashes. sounds dangerous.

Now breaking a man-slaves is fun. I can do that in an hour with me. Slave breaking is like the Stockholm sendrome. Were the man-slave becomes obediantly loyal to me, beleiving that everything I do to him is because he did something to deserve it. A broken man-slave will not try to make any indepandant action, try to escape, or ask for help from others present. A broken man-slave will even try to stop others from stopping me, even becoming upset and angery.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/7/2006 10:28:24 AM

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I would love to know the working of Ebony's mind. To know a fraction of what she knows, would be awesome.

As usual, there are those who don't know shit but who must voice an opinion anyway.

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i play by my own rules and said rules CLEAR and evident.

i'm not at a want for subs.

don't worry about their brains.. that's up to me. and who says they're traumatized?

traumatized according to WHOM?

Their wife.. their girlfriend..their mother.. their SO....thier boss at work wondering why they aren't concentrating..

But you go girl! LIVE that fantasy!

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/8/2006 9:54:55 PM

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I would love to know the working of Ebony's mind. To know a fraction of what she knows, would be awesome.

i'm an open book. i am willing to share my views on submission, slavery, chastity, S/M or pretty much anything else with anyone either here in fora or in private. my views may not be popular, but it's how i truly live and how i truly raise/train my boys.

ok, so my views may not be popular...such is life.

i am more than willing to share my views with you either in private or publically- no shame in my game.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/8/2006 10:02:11 PM

EbonyFtshGoddess

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Thank you for your responses...all very intelligent. I would enjoy chatting with you more, if you don't mind. I have a new slave and am thinking about new techniques. "Brainwashing" may not have been the best word to use.

feel free to approach me. i don't have all the answers to anything, but i can tell you how things go for my slaves. and i've had my longest standing slaves for over 5 years. i am willing to bet few others here can say the same. people don't realize that different things work for different people. and so be it. it's not dangerous.

danger is only dangerous in unskilled hands.. much like a gun. guns don't kill people, people kill people.. domme's don't harm people.. only unskilled ones do.

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when i say i've had my longest standing slave for over 5 years i mean i've had my longest standing slaves RT slave for over 5 years.. none of this online bullshit. and i've had slaves for over 10 years since i was 19.. i'm 29 now.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/9/2006 5:08:07 AM

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it's way old on both coasts.

It is just like, WAY old, dude. Like, you would't even believe how old it is, man. Like, WAY old doesn't even tell it, it's just old. Seriously. Way old.

Sorry, but if you're gonna bitch someone else out on using old sayings, "way" anything is not the way to describe it. It is like, SO 2005.

Yours,

benji

Fer sure, dude!.. LOL! Gad, at least I didn't say "groovy".

And yes.. I do use the term "girlfriend" with my female friends. It's a throwback to the 70's. (like when most here were being BORN)

I AM old.. and damn proud of it.. and too old for nonsense like what a "trendy" term is or is not. I'm fresh out of rat's asses on this one, otherwise I'd give one.

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RE: Is there a Mistress that can answer this? - 10/9/2006 10:35:18 AM

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Yes, fear and anxiety can induce an errection... but pain usually kills it. If an arrousing activity is always mixed with flogging (and stick to one good activity - like having another sub blow him) then eventually the brain should start making the connection and you'll have a whip-hard boy! Granted this takes a LOT of practice.
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