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Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 10:31:32 AM   
ScooterTrash


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Status: offline 		It is amazing to me the amount of people who are totally absorbed with political ideology and who constantly interject politics into otherwise non-political discussions. I see party affiliations slung about, reference to right wing, left wing mentioned, conservatives versus liberals and probably some other defining characteristics I didn’t even pick up on. I can’t help but wonder, who really cares? Is this really that big of a deal to some people? My take on it is that anyone who is so obsessed with politics that it seems their very essence and most of their opinions are derived from it, are a little too surreal. I can’t help thinking that someone probing for a political view or party affiliation, soon after an introduction, would only receive a “see ya” in most instances”. It’s tough enough to find compatible people under the best circumstances; it seems a bit self defeating to bring yet another obstacle into the equation. Anyone else just not give a damned about someone’s politics?

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 10:38:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well my limits include things like --- 'Ooooooooooooohhh, that looks like a republican/democrat/independant/communist (insert any others here) dick'. (this being said as I am about to recieve a world-class air start.


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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 10:39:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Scooter, to each their own. However, I take your point that politics isn't everyone's cup of tea and if the thread is non-political then best to keep politics off the thread. Point taken here.

Having said this, I personally wouldn't jump to the conclusion that someone who makes a few political posts on this board is obsessed. Believe it or not, most of my mates wouldn't know a Margaret Thatcher from a  Bill Clinton and there are a few of us out tonight - if politics is mentioned once I'll be so surprised I'll dress up as a witch, sing songs about witches and carry a turnip around for hours on end next halloween. Can't say fairer than that.

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 10:52:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm with you Scooter, I don't give shit about a person's politics really, unless they insist on trying to cram them down my throat. Of course, having a multi-party system in Canada makes all things political less cut-and-dried than they are with your two-party system, so maybe that has some influence on my viewpoint.

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 10:52:55 AM   
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Listed on my profile as a hard limit is conservative politics... yes it even exists within the CM interests to state that it is a hard limit....

To each their own, some people refer to religion or atheism as big deals within their post, and use spirituality references in regard to WIITWD.. this peppers their perspective. I appreciate them actually. Some people have ethnic cultural preferences and this peppers their comments. I will quote the wise Noah "It takes all different kinds to fill the freeways", God that guy comes up with the most quotable stuff!



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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 10:58:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's good to agree to some extent about politics, but if I am compatible with someone in a million other ways, I sure won't throw them out because of it.
 
Lets face it, there are good and bad ppl on all sides, if they can tolerate my point of view, I can tolerate theirs.
 
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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:02:43 AM   
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< Message edited by NorthernGent -- 10/6/2006 11:03:34 AM >

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:07:27 AM   
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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:22:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha

I think it's good to agree to some extent about politics, but if I am compatible with someone in a million other ways, I sure won't throw them out because of it.
 
Lets face it, there are good and bad ppl on all sides, if they can tolerate my point of view, I can tolerate theirs.
 
Akasha


Well said Akasha.

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:32:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree, Scooter.  I see posts that have nothing whatsoever to do with anything political, and yet some manage to turn it into a political event.  A hypothetical example:

Question:  Anyone into humiliation?
 
Answer:  Certainly not the way Bush is humiliating this nation!

I understand and respect the views of others, and maybe some simply see everything as a political issue, but I personally do not see life that way.

Master could give a damn about my political views.  Sometimes we discuss and/or debate and/or tease each other, but usually we don't.  There are so many other wonderful "meshes" between us that politics do not get in the way.

My sister - one of the biggest left wingers I have known, vowed to never, ever consort with a Republican.  Wouldn't you know, she just married her political polar opposite, a steadfast right winger. She kept groaning, "I can't believe I'm sleeping with a REPUBLICAN."  Then he moved her to the most conservative county in California.  I told her, "Think of it as a huge opportunity to convert people, lol."  But love is love, and as passionate as both of them are in their views, they have managed to respect the others' passion, even if they disagree with eachothers views.

Reminds me of James Carville and Mary Matalin.  They seem to make it work.  Two complete opposites who connect on a much deeper level then politics.  Gotta respect that.

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:35:50 AM   
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Anyone else just not give a damned about someone’s politics?


I don't give a damn - to each their own
but there are quite a number of political posters on this board
I find amusing

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:40:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, as for the Forums, threads are hijacked all the time over anything and everything, so if it's politics..i don't care....most posters are interesting to read.  As for choosing a Dom, i would not expect that He would share my views, or even have an interest  in politics.  But i draw the line at non-voting Men.  People have shed blood to allow Uus that right, and IMHO, no O/one should be so freaking lazy as to not vote.
 
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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:45:35 AM   
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My sister - one of the biggest left wingers I have known, vowed to never, ever consort with a Republican.  Wouldn't you know, she just married her political polar opposite, a steadfast right winger. She kept groaning, "I can't believe I'm sleeping with a REPUBLICAN."  Then he moved her to the most conservative county in California.  I told her, "Think of it as a huge opportunity to convert people, lol."  But love is love, and as passionate as both of them are in their views, they have managed to respect the others' passion, even if they disagree with eachothers views.



That happened to one of my best friends.... But he is not that right wing and she is not completely left wing

I have a sibling that is a religious fundie... I cannot stop loving him because he is my brother, but he gets on my last nerve.. and he does it intentionally. It is quite something to have your brother call you a liberal demon. My son would call me that for the longest time because he thought it was hilarious.

I found someone that has a similar worldview to myself, and that was important to me. Others do not put that much importance on such things.

As to the political commentary in other discussions... well I am guilty of this, and I figure it is a public message board.. if people do not like my posts they can skip them, it really does not matter to me one way or another if they do... I am here to express myself. If people do not like that, they can say so in context to my posts, or they can start threads about it, or they can insult me in a veiled way on another thread (and I am not talking about you owned). There are so many ways to disagree directly or indirectly that people have at their disposal... isn't freedom of speech wonderful!



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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:46:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I personally have all politics listed in my hard limits because I am sick of people who only want to side one way or another. I personally lean republican, but I've only dated democrats so far and it helps keep me centered if we talk sometimes about politics. I just hate the people who say Bush/Clinton sucks and give all these conspiracy theory reasons for their beliefs. I dont mind talking about politics at all with open minded people, but people who get their news only from Fox/Jon Stewart and refuse to see things from any different perspective are a lot of the reason I think that people are getting so apathetic towards politics.

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 11:56:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
Question:  Anyone into humiliation?
 
Answer:  Certainly not the way Bush is humiliating this nation!
That just made me laugh.

Yes Scooter, I agree that we are talking way too much politics, but you must realize that if two people are intense about their political ideologies, and they happen to differ, there is going to be limited fun in the bedroom or dungeon since under the current climate we are more divided than we've ever been in the last few decades.

In politics or religion, I personally won't care if my partner is to the right of center, as long as he can have civil and open minded discussions with me, or shut up about it around me.   If however he is a judgemental "my way is the only right way", he will be shown the door with an "don't let it hit you on the way out" with quickness.   M

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 12:12:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Politics is kind of fun though in it's place of course.
I'm origionally from one of the most leftist states in the Union, Massachusetts.
The more I learned about the Kennedys the more I hated their politics and them.
They are a genuine "Crime Family" headed up by the Godfather Joe who smuggled whiskey into the U.S. from Canada and pulled off a lot of other shady deals.
When I was in the military I caught so much shit for being from Mass.& the Kennedys I now tell everyone I'm from "New Hampsha!"
They kill people, injure people for life in car accidents, molest underage baby sitters, get drunk and arrested, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
And if you look into their backgrounds they're not all that intelligent either. Ted got caught cheating at Harvard, his son "The Boy Congressman" Patrick "Patches" Kennedy can barely read and write and has an i.q. somewhere "south" of 100.(How did he get a "Degree?")
I guess if you have enough money you can "buy" your way into public office.Or a university "degree".
Glad I got out of that state!
On the other hand I don't like republicans either.
They always vote for big corporations and against The People.
Look at the Moron in the White House today.
Just when you think it can't get any worse after Clinton along comes the chimp!
Another scion of wealth!
We have to find a better way of getting better people into office!

Now as to the question of politics becomming a limit I can only answer for myself but I'd say no.
I could be with a Democrat or a Republican or an Independant.
And they could talk about politics with me as little or as much as they wanted.
Being an Independant I look at both sides of an issue unlike a lot of those on the left or right.
My first question is always "Is it good for America?"

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 12:19:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I have a deep concern for the current state of our nation and know that both the problems and the solutions are alot more complex that anyone not smack in the middle of the situation can imagine....... it's not that big of a deal.

The only problem I can imagine having with a partner over politics is if they were so narrowmindedly stuck in their point of view beyond being able to admit there are other valid points. I see alot of that, "I am right, I know I am right, anyone that does not agree with me 100% is a moron".

I don't care wether I agree with that person's point of view or not, they will just annoy the bloody hell out of me. I can agree to disagree, just don't get on your damned pulpit and try and bully me and talk to me like I am an idiot. 

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 12:22:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

It is amazing to me the amount of people who are totally absorbed with political ideology and who constantly interject politics into otherwise non-political discussions. I see party affiliations slung about, reference to right wing, left wing mentioned, conservatives versus liberals and probably some other defining characteristics I didn’t even pick up on. I can’t help but wonder, who really cares? Is this really that big of a deal to some people? My take on it is that anyone who is so obsessed with politics that it seems their very essence and most of their opinions are derived from it, are a little too surreal. I can’t help thinking that someone probing for a political view or party affiliation, soon after an introduction, would only receive a “see ya” in most instances”. It’s tough enough to find compatible people under the best circumstances; it seems a bit self defeating to bring yet another obstacle into the equation. Anyone else just not give a damned about someone’s politics?


I tend not to engage in political discussions on Collarme. I am a regular poster to a board which is dedicated to politics and religion (brave soul who started that site) and when I'm in the mood for a fight, that's where I go because there is 'always' a war going on and everyone is well armed.

This place, for me, is for fun and education. "That" place is perfect for when my blood pressure gets to low and needs a boost.

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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 12:48:59 PM   
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RE: Are politics becoming a limit? - 10/6/2006 12:53:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

My sister - one of the biggest left wingers I have known, vowed to never, ever consort with a Republican.  Wouldn't you know, she just married her political polar opposite, a steadfast right winger.
I don't know how many times I have looked it up, I still can't keep right wing/left wing straight. Still sounds like something I need to know at Kentucky fried chicken....lol.

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