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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 10:05:53 AM   
fckmeimirish


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ORIGINAL: belkincp

dont beleive anythign these so called dominat women say..its all BS....thay dont know qnything about men..and r clueless to what itsl ie kto be a man...to work hard endlessly to ask girls out and never get laid....they dont know how much rejection a guy goes throguh..and girls get hit on al lthe time and asked out..they dont know shit....if ur a guy..and u want a girl...u get write too much for 1 girl ..its a waste of time..ultimatly she wont care waht u say anyways..its how u look....
if brad pitt look a like jsut said..hi im in ur area......... and a danny devito look a liek said 5 pages of love and funny and witt..the girl would pick the brad pitt so just do what u got to do and dotn listen to dumb girls...just cus some guys r ur bitxches and r retards..doesnt mean ur smart or kool or even respected...respected is an aura one has that can bee seen by anyone  not just ur subs..or shall i say guys with no self esteem or dignity or brain...thx have fun



Belk,

You sound like one of those self-esteemless douchebags you're making fun of.  If you spend all your money and time on girls and don't get laid ... as you so eloquently put it ... its because you are socially-inept, you lack true confidence, and the girls you date don't respect you ... and its likely because you , like many of my female-challenged brethren, have the mistaken impression that trying to impress a woman with gifts or fancy dinners, or bragging about your job, car, or cock size is the way to her heart and subsequently her panties ... and you couldn't be more mistaken.

All of those behaviors subtly demonstrate that you don't feel that you giving her your time and allowing her to enjoy being in your presence is enough ... so you have to sweeten the deal by buying her gifts or fancy dinners.  That screams ... I know you won't hang out with me unless there's something else in it for you.  When you spend time with her ... you likely spend as much time talking about yourself as possible ... trying to constantly sell her on you ... confident men don't seek the approval of anyone ... regardless of what their role in the BDSM community might be.  All of these things, whether you realize it or not cause you to come off weak ... and most women are turned off by that faster than a pinky-dick, high-caliber women like those that have posted especially.  Look at my pic, Belk, I'm a decent looking guy, I suppose, but no Brad Pitt,  but that's never been the key to my sucess with women at all.  I know how to create intrigue, not tell her too much too soon, let her wonder about my feelings towards her instead of pouring my guts out, give her time to miss me instead of calling every five minutes, pick on her and tease her rather than giving her compliment after unoriginal and insincere compliment.  Christ man ... use your head for something other than a place to keep your hat and try to do things in a way that is different from others.  Stand out!  Be unique, be an individual, and value the individual that you are enough to be in the frame of mind where you're thinking "Do I like this woman?" ... not "Does this woman like me?". 

If you appear optionless, desperate, and hungry ... like you do in your post ... well, let's put it this way ... there's and old sales addage that goes "Those that appear hungry are rarely fed.".  Why do you suppose that is?  Well, its because for one ... women are smart enough to wonder why you have no other options ... and they hate it when a man is clingy because it tells them you have none ... which a wuss like yourself no doubt is when he gets even a modicum of attention from a female ... and two ... desperate salesmen will tell you anything you want to hear to make the sale ... so the things that come out of your mouth are considered in a very different light in a woman's mind because she feels like you'll tell her anything to get in her pants.

Stop, take a step back from women, improve yourself, and your life ... get your game together and stop whining like a pussy or women ... no matter what their role ... won't be attracted to you.  Learn to like yourself more ... and do the things that help you to do that.  Workout, take a class on someting you're good at ... boost your confidence through these things and you'll just walk a little taller and talk just a little bit slower and before you know it ... girls will start to notice.

This concludes my seduction tips 101 rant (giggles).  Girls, tell the man that I'm right ... for his sake ... even though he's likely too much of a human excuse factory to do much about it.

Shawn 

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 11:22:39 AM   
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ok I can't help myself but did anybody notice the difference between mister sweet-absolutely-not-bitter-belkin's first picture..and the second picture on his profile..
muscles on/muscles off   and I swear this is not just because he was relaxed on the 2nd picture...

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 12:00:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

ok I can't help myself but did anybody notice the difference between mister sweet-absolutely-not-bitter-belkin's first picture..and the second picture on his profile..
muscles on/muscles off   and I swear this is not just because he was relaxed on the 2nd picture...



I dunno.... I think it's the same guy. And Damn!...He's a splitting image of Big Poppa Pump!


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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 12:11:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: belkincp
dont beleive anythign these so called dominat women say..its all BS....thay dont know qnything about men..and r clueless to what itsl ie kto be a man...to work hard endlessly to ask girls out and never get laid....they dont know how much rejection a guy goes throguh..and girls get hit on al lthe time and asked out..they dont know shit....if ur a guy..and u want a girl...u get write too much for 1 girl ..its a waste of time..ultimatly she wont care waht u say anyways..its how u look....
if brad pitt look a like jsut said..hi im in ur area......... and a danny devito look a liek said 5 pages of love and funny and witt..the girl would pick the brad pitt so just do what u got to do and dotn listen to dumb girls...just cus some guys r ur bitxches and r retards..doesnt mean ur smart or kool or even respected...respected is an aura one has that can bee seen by anyone  not just ur subs..or shall i say guys with no self esteem or dignity or brain...thx have fun


With a charming attitude and presentation like that, what domme could possibly resist?  LOL

Hint: if a guy comes across online as having the emotional and intellectual maturity of a seventh grader, he's going to be rejected by most women.   You could look hotter than Leo DiCaprio and be richer than Croesus, and I still wouldn't want to spend time with you you because of your whiny, negative attitude and your inability to communicate in a normal adult manner.  Maybe some women would overlook personality flaws in favor of the superficials, but experience teaches that superficial things cannot sustain a long term happy relationship between two human beings.  Ultimately a relationship is about human beings, so if you fail as a human being, the relationship has nothing to sustain it.

Communication is pretty fundamental to a successful BDSM relationship, and so is emotional maturity.  If you clearly demonstrate that you have neither of those things, it pretty much spells doom for your chances of having a kinky sex life. 

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 2:34:48 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: belkincp

dont beleive anythign these so called dominat women say..its all BS....thay dont know qnything about men..and r clueless to what itsl ie kto be a man...to work hard endlessly to ask girls out and never get laid....they dont know how much rejection a guy goes throguh..and girls get hit on al lthe time and asked out..they dont know shit....if ur a guy..and u want a girl...u get write too much for 1 girl ..its a waste of time..ultimatly she wont care waht u say anyways..its how u look....
if brad pitt look a like jsut said..hi im in ur area......... and a danny devito look a liek said 5 pages of love and funny and witt..the girl would pick the brad pitt so just do what u got to do and dotn listen to dumb girls...just cus some guys r ur bitxches and r retards..doesnt mean ur smart or kool or even respected...respected is an aura one has that can bee seen by anyone  not just ur subs..or shall i say guys with no self esteem or dignity or brain...thx have fun

*gets out my retard decoder ring*
Wow, it still works!

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 2:38:00 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

quote:

ORIGINAL: belkincp

dont beleive anythign these so called dominat women say..its all BS....thay dont know qnything about men..and r clueless to what itsl ie kto be a man...to work hard endlessly to ask girls out and never get laid....they dont know how much rejection a guy goes throguh..and girls get hit on al lthe time and asked out..they dont know shit....if ur a guy..and u want a girl...u get write too much for 1 girl ..its a waste of time..ultimatly she wont care waht u say anyways..its how u look....
if brad pitt look a like jsut said..hi im in ur area......... and a danny devito look a liek said 5 pages of love and funny and witt..the girl would pick the brad pitt so just do what u got to do and dotn listen to dumb girls...just cus some guys r ur bitxches and r retards..doesnt mean ur smart or kool or even respected...respected is an aura one has that can bee seen by anyone not just ur subs..or shall i say guys with no self esteem or dignity or brain...thx have fun



Not very becoming of a supposed "officer in the armed forces".

I thought the credo was "Honor , courage, commitment"?

Have they taught you nothing there at the Academy?

You aren't going to find a domme with the attitude you have...or the poorly put together paragraph you just wrote.

I guess the Hollywood myths of "officer and a gentlemen" only apply to a select few.

BTW...you would be suprised what women know about men/males.

If you are looking for sex.....you arte DEFINATELY in the wrong place.

try match .com...fill out a profile.

That seems like it would be right up your alley.


Quick edit:

Your hair is definately not conforming to military regs.



Conveniently, he's deleted all of that nonsense out of the profile.  And he's added pictures.  The funny part is that one has been photoshopped to make him more muscular.  He wasn't bright enough to delete the scrawnier pic out, so it looks like you're doing a gym "before and after" pic comparison LOL

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 5:14:09 PM   
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Actually, I think it's (not sure, "it" could be male or female) testing us for our reactive skills.  .   It's playing with us folks and it's having one heck of a good time on these boards because most seem to be giving it what it wants.

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 5:33:25 PM   
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Good evening:

While I was reading belkincp's reply, I thought it was pretty funny.  Perhaps his extreme example is meant in jest.  (I thought this because the spelling errors looked like they took some extra effort and if he was any more over the top we'd have to put a chute on him for safety reasons.)  Just my opinion.  No one here is really upset, are they?  Or is the banter just stress relief and I'm holding up the line? <smiles>

I do think your original post is quite excellent, Miss Stephanie.  Not too harsh, just some common sense/courtesy.  I felt guilty about not having a pic up yet...but then it went away. <grins>

Best wishes,
christine

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 6:11:41 PM   
CuteBrute


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fckmeimirish,

As the bass player in the argument, you automatically win. :D (And no, that wasn't meant sarcastically.)

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 6:36:04 PM   
RosaB


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quote:

ORIGINAL: feylin

Good evening:

While I was reading belkincp's reply, I thought it was pretty funny.  Perhaps his extreme example is meant in jest.  (I thought this because the spelling errors looked like they took some extra effort and if he was any more over the top we'd have to put a chute on him for safety reasons.)  Just my opinion.  No one here is really upset, are they?  Or is the banter just stress relief and I'm holding up the line? <smiles>

christine


That's what I was thinking as well.  It was in my eyes apparent the spelling and grammatical errors were purposely injected.  An intentional afront to the OP's suggestions, otherwise  OMFG.   

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 6:53:08 PM   
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Thanks for the open letter, but I must say my experience with doms emailing me on this site must be analogous to yours with subs. There's lots of bad grammar and short sentences conveying very little respect or concern for me.


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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 7:10:12 PM   
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LOL, "OMFG" is right. <grins>  But I doubt they would use phrases such as:  "or shall I say...." 

It could be a fluke! I am not saying it wasn't a fluke.  Stranger things have happened.

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 7:20:00 PM   
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Missy, thank you for saying that.  I wasnt sure if now was a good time to derail a thread and pointing out a...*ahem* mishap...

~edited because im a grammar dork sometimes~

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 8:05:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: belkincp

dont beleive anythign these so called dominat women say..its all BS....thay dont know qnything about men..and r clueless to what itsl ie kto be a man...to work hard endlessly to ask girls out and never get laid....they dont know how much rejection a guy goes throguh..and girls get hit on al lthe time and asked out..they dont know shit....if ur a guy..and u want a girl...u get write too much for 1 girl ..its a waste of time..ultimatly she wont care waht u say anyways..its how u look....
if brad pitt look a like jsut said..hi im in ur area......... and a danny devito look a liek said 5 pages of love and funny and witt..the girl would pick the brad pitt so just do what u got to do and dotn listen to dumb girls...just cus some guys r ur bitxches and r retards..doesnt mean ur smart or kool or even respected...respected is an aura one has that can bee seen by anyone  not just ur subs..or shall i say guys with no self esteem or dignity or brain...thx have fun


Yes! Yes! Excellent satire! That's just the sort of drivel that the Ladies mean, I'm sure!

LAsub

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 8:11:16 PM   
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     Well, I agree about having photos in your profile and I think it should apply to both sides of the coin. Personally it is hard for me to have photos on Collarme. They keep denying them. I do not have facial shots on my profile as I am a crossdresser and prefer to keep that private until I have entered into a conversation with a Domme. When it comes to the one line emails, the emails from people you have clearly stated you are not interested in and the "do me" emails, I am in complete agreement there as well.
    In case anyone was wondering, I have been on Collarme longer than 2 days under this profile and a previous one, although I am not sure how "length of membership" qualifies or disqualifies a persons opinion.
     For the past 15 years I have been actively seeking a Domme through websites like this, AOL profiles, Yahoo profiles, local events, etc. with no luck. Not only am I a sub male but I am also a crossdresser so the odds are not in my favor. That is ok. If  I am not someone's cup of tea, so be it. My profiles have been very detailed in the past. Recently I have toned them down a bit thinking maybe they were too detailed and scared prospective Dommes away. Never the less there is still a good deal of information about me in them.
    Certainly in the past I have made mistakes in letters I have written in content, spelling, punctuation and or grammar. Since the response rate from Dommes is less than 5% in my experience, it has been hard to figure out what it was that put them off. At one point I even wrote to many asking them for advice about why they did not take the time to reply one way or another. Was I disrespectful? Was it not written well? Did I not go into your needs enough? Were you just not interested in what I was interested in?
     The letters have ranged from as little as one paragraph to as many as twenty. The shorter ones were usually to Dommes who listed their location as, Pennsylvania (which is a big state) or The East Coast. There would be a short introduction and an inquiry as to whether or not they were near Philadelphia as location is an issue for me. As time went by I realized that crossdressers are not much liked (see thread 'why don't Mistresses like cds?) and I would inquire about that as well if I could not get any indication from reading their profile. These are two deal breaking issues to me and if one or the other is out, then there is no point in spending alot of time writing a long detailed letter. For those about to jump on the "just another lazy slave who doesn't get it" band wagon, I simply say: PLEASE, don't even go there. Any sub out there will tell you that when it comes to Domme/Mistress response rates, they are very, very, very low. Maybe this is part of the problem. I realize that Dommes get inundated with emails and many of them are one liners, but how many hours can you spend writing long, detailed letters to mistresses and getting no repsonse? Not a negative response, NO repsonse, before you stop putting as much effort into your emails? As subs we need to take our fair share of the blame. Lord knows there are many, many A-hole guys out there. I understand that, but I think that as Dommes, you need to start taking some responsibility for the poor quality of emails you receive too. How many e-mails do you not respond to?
    In the end, I find it hard to believe that the root of my loneliness boils down to bad spelling, punctuation and or grammar. Having said that and having no other information to go by, I will certainly make an effort to do better at these things in the future. Of course, none of them are strong points for me.
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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 8:21:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: belkincp

dont beleive anythign these so called dominat women say..its all BS....thay dont know qnything about men..and r clueless to what itsl ie kto be a man...to work hard endlessly to ask girls out and never get laid....they dont know how much rejection a guy goes throguh..and girls get hit on al lthe time and asked out..they dont know shit....if ur a guy..and u want a girl...u get write too much for 1 girl ..its a waste of time..ultimatly she wont care waht u say anyways..its how u look....
if brad pitt look a like jsut said..hi im in ur area......... and a danny devito look a liek said 5 pages of love and funny and witt..the girl would pick the brad pitt so just do what u got to do and dotn listen to dumb girls...just cus some guys r ur bitxches and r retards..doesnt mean ur smart or kool or even respected...respected is an aura one has that can bee seen by anyone  not just ur subs..or shall i say guys with no self esteem or dignity or brain...thx have fun


5 posts and hes an expert on us dominant bitxches.
Sorry to break it to you belkin... but you might just have proven to us all why it is you are still unowned *grin*

As to the OP. I agree, for the most aprt. There is one thing I would like to throw in.  Dont put so much work into your first email to us that you sound like a scholar there, unless you truly do write that way all the time.  A first impression is a wonderful thing, however if it proves to be a completely FALSE impression... we will know.

DV

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 8:41:17 PM   
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I havent been on the forums for that long, but I think along with Belk being a tool his post just came off as something he was throwing out there to side track the discussion.  If this thread is read by all the dommes and they all agree with the OP(and they will) then he really doesnt have a prayer so he trying to nuke it before the discussion goes anywhere.

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 9:11:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

ok I can't help myself but did anybody notice the difference between mister sweet-absolutely-not-bitter-belkin's first picture..and the second picture on his profile..
muscles on/muscles off   and I swear this is not just because he was relaxed on the 2nd picture...



After you and Pandora mentioned the things he'd done to his profile, I just HAD to check it out for myself.  I was flipping back and forth between the "scrawny arms" pic and the "after workout" pic.  It was friggin' hilarious!!!  Arms up, arms down.  OMG!  I haven't laughed that hard all day.
It's a shame he has such a bad attitude because he's actually quite nice looking.  Ah well, the pretty ones are always crazy.  LOL
Mistress Scarlet

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/10/2006 10:18:27 PM   
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Stop, take a step back from women, improve yourself, and your life ... get your game together and stop whining like a pussy or women ... no matter what their role ... won't be attracted to you.  Learn to like yourself more ... and do the things that help you to do that.  Workout, take a class on someting you're good at ... boost your confidence through these things and you'll just walk a little taller and talk just a little bit slower and before you know it ... girls will start to notice.

This concludes my seduction tips 101 rant (giggles).  Girls, tell the man that I'm right ... for his sake ... even though he's likely too much of a human excuse factory to do much about it.
Yes Belkincp, he is right, so listen to him!
If you behave more like Fckmeimirish, we'll phuck you sometime, even if you aren't Irish.   M

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RE: A letter to single submissives - 10/11/2006 7:40:35 AM   
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BlkTall,

Flattery will get you everywhere, my dear (grins devilishly) ...

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