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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/13/2006 7:15:07 AM   
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Yes being dishonest, cowardly, a skumbucket, a disgrace to the humane race is not esclusive to either gender.  We all just need to look out and trust our guts.  The guy with the susposed kid sent a lot of red flags he was not the first con artist I had dealt with but the most convincing.  Sometimes we just let ourselves be convinced though. 

As far as trust and skepticism, that is where you have to decide what is all this worth to you.  I would rather take the chance then sit alone day after day bemoaning the fact I was afraid to lose some money or a little pride. I am not puting those down, or saying they are wrong it is just not for me.  As long as I take care that I will not get killed I can handle everything else.  But then I am strong willed, and a fighter.  I have survived 3 near deaths, an ex husband that tried to break me mentally,  partial praylisis the whole left side was paralyzied (sp?),  a devestating spiteful divorce, and yet I am still kicking strong.  For those who get confused this is bragging.  I relearned to walk and cook in 2 months when they told me it would take 4.  They actually said I would never be able to cook again.  do household chores  or drive.  I showed them,  ha ha I can cook almost anything, I do the household chores I drive, I may not do it as fast but I do get it done. And I am a damn good cook. 


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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/13/2006 9:35:09 AM   
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hi sweeets i trully undersatan where you are coming from i have had my hopesbrought up andthen crashed and feelingvery rejected and alone after mpnths of so called plans, dont you dare give up sweetie for every fake there is someone waiting for you post, but also look about you in you commuity :} and  just relax and soon mr wonderful wil appaer  i have fun on the net and dont take  anything too seriously just  go with the flow check out my profile and  you wil see what i mean :} feel free to connect with me gypsytasha at msn .com soon i am changing to comcast like on the  19th aif you connect with me i wil have a way of  letting you know what my new emails will be :} take care  your fellow is out there and you wil know it when it happens i dont have any significent othereither but i am pactiently awaiting and it will happen maybe in your very community look at it as their loss because they dont know you as the person you are keep looking sweetie he is their waitingfor you  :}

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/13/2006 7:05:26 PM   
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It is always nice to learn a lesson when the price tag is considerably smaller.  I would hate losing 350 but would consider it my education as well.  In actuality she is quite good it sounds at what she does, she just doesn't do the same thing we do.  Good seeking and may You find the real sub of Your dreams.  Oh and by the way if she can't afford to come for a visit or to stand on her own two feet she needs to be working instead of seeking.  Seeking and finding while it is the greatest feeling ever second only to have a roof over ones head, food to eat and the knowledge of real honor within oneself.  Oops maybe just a bit more than second on the list but atleast now You know i am real cause don't have the polish she does lol.  Take care.

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/13/2006 7:51:47 PM   
Morrigel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Really?  It would never occur to me to give money to strangers whom I barely know and have never met. 


Men in our society do so on a fairly routine basis.  Especially when sex is involved.  Generally speaking, they get what they pay for--except in cases like this, where they think they're going to be paying for a relationship.

What really needs to be acknolwedged here is not just the implausibility of the girl's story, but the fact that she was stereotypically gorgeous.  Anyone can put on the brakes and ask "smart" questions when dealing with an ordinary potential sub or dom.  It's when we see the chance to score someone "perfect"--the perfect age, the perfect looks, and perfect compatibility with our kinks--that the brain cells start to commit hari kari.

Basically, the moral of this story is:  if it looks too good to be true--it probably is.

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/13/2006 11:07:02 PM   
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Seva,  thank you for posting your experience.  I am sorry this happened to you and I do hope this will not jade you from further exploration.  You can move forward with more knowledge and more able to see the real situation.

I think it is important for everyone to read your account as it is well written without spite or whining ~ truly refreshing.

There are real people online however I suspect the wannabe,wanker,fakes outnumber those of us who are real.

As others have spoken of I too have communicated via email, phone only to find the person is gone profile screen name and all.  Of course we have all heard of the sudden internet deaths, horrific deaths and lost individuals.  I think this forum gives people opportunities they dont understand and they get in too deep they are without honor and simply run away. 

This is a reflection of society in general.

Again, thank you for posting your experience so eloquently

I wish you all the best in finding what you seek.

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/14/2006 12:13:43 AM   
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Yeah, that does suck, but $350 isn't too bad though.  When I was reading your post I was expecting something in the thousands of dollars for relocation.   I've visited doms in the SF Bay Area and they were absolutely fantastic and totally professional.  I wouldn't have it any other way.  As for CM I did notice a lot of "pro dom" types and had a feeling maybe they weren't real or at the very least not professional like the ones I've gone to.  Just for fun I decided to mess with one of them by bating then trying to nail down something concrete such as we meet before I pay. When I visit a real pro dom I either pay at the door or pay after the session is over. As expected the person I contacted through CM claimed to have a space and it was very near me (of course it was), but I would have to wire her money via Western Union.  I kept it going, by saying stuff like, "well I'll just pay you when we meet - no big deal right?"  Just to keep it going I pretend to act stupid just to waste her time.  I was asking all kinds of questions like, "well, we don't have a Western Union in our town, what do you think I should do?"  and so on.  After, like, 20 emails she finally got sick of it and stopped talking to me.  The funny thing is that we never even discussed anything about the scene (she/he/it just wanted that money). The doms that I have visited usually go over the intended scene with you in some detail (at least that’s how it is with the doms I've been with).    I noticed her profile isn't up anymore.  Gee, maybe she got out of the "pro dom" business!   Gotta love it! 

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/14/2006 2:07:44 AM   
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that is  so true some think because we are submissive it means it is open season to be degrded and put down and treated like dirt under their feet , and feel as if one just might be desperte enough to  do anything which is not the case i am proud of my selevted station in life as a Sub, and in know ways desperate,willing to wait my time becuase when that wonderful event does happen it is worth the wait, i hope our delightful freind knows she has the support here among many friends :}  

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/14/2006 9:52:15 AM   
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Not to feel like you are the Lone Ranger.

I had a similar scam worked on me, from someone who is not up any longer on this board.

Said she was in hard time, even admitted to having been in jail.

Wanted to restart her life, needed just a little help to come and meet me.

Sounded reasonable enough at the time, but in retrospect, I should have thought twice about sending money to a self-admitted criminal.

Anyway, lesson learned. I will simply not give money to those who ask.

Sigh

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/14/2006 11:05:29 AM   
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it is however wonderful to know there is someone who is compassionate enough to respond to a said need, there are times when the need may be real, but one has to be causious since there are many who seek out people to send them money, but i am moved and wish that all watch and learn from their expereince, :} sincerely babygirl  

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 10/14/2006 3:42:47 PM   
felineone


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

.... more than $2,000.00!  And yes, it was "tuition" and Daddy promised to listen more carefully when I tried to caution him!  Ah well, live and learn - and we are not especially gullible and have "been around the block" before.  It can happen to all of us depending on the circumstances.

MsOpal



It kinda sounds like he was blinded by the lure of young hot woman.  Its a plague that can afflict many a man.

C~



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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 4:16:26 PM   
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cant you just talk to the cops about this? isnt there a way that they could track her down?

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 4:48:27 PM   
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Seems like she went through a lot of work for $350.  Sorry for your loss though.

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 5:08:29 PM   
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This thread and original OP being two years old, I wonder why it's being resurrected and whether the OP is still around or even cares anymore. Maybe this will help someone else to keep from becoming a victim, or, more precisely, a sucker and needy user who got what he may have deserved. A Dom ? I dun think so, if one understands a Dom/me to be one who understands oneself and others, excercises self control and prudence, and considers other peoples desires, needs and feelings in his/her interactions.

OP, this is going to sound harsh but, recall the saying "you can't cheat an honest man"?

It seems your motives were not entirely altruistic , were they? You were in a hell of a hurry to get a "mail order sub" and to get your dick wet, weren't ya ? So, you fuck with the bull, you get the horns. I don't feel one bit sorry for you, sir.

Btw, what part of :

DO NOT SEND MONEY TO OTHER USERS FOR ANY REASON! Read about Common Scams and Online Safety Information

didn't you get ?




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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 5:10:52 PM   
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If a fool wants to be parted with his money and is stupid enough to be scammed, why do we care?

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 7:12:55 PM   
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This is one of the reasons I thinking looking long distance is a long shot.  What the heck?  I mean, you were planning to obtain a sub/slave via phone, email, ect without having met her first?  Oh yeah I sure would want someone to join my life without knowing a thing about them!  Good gawd why is the need to have someone so large it overrides common sense?
350. for a lesson.  I hope it was large enough to stick.
I do have to say though, she did a grand job of making a cover story. 
Kyst

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 8:42:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SEVADom
But when I offered to fly out, both to meet and drive back with her (we're talking about roughly 3000 miles here, a very long drive), she said that she would be uncomfortable about being alone together during that trip because of the increased risk of being in anonymous locations along the way (I'm paraphrasing, but you get the idea). I know, but it made sense at the time.


Hindsight is 20/20. I'm sorry you were taken - you seem like a genuinely nice person but that paragraph above is the mother of all red flags. A person who has never met you is coming to relocate with you on the other side of the country - in your home - in a city and state where she likely knows nobody else... won't share the drive back to VA due to concerns about her safety? There's just no way no how I would ever have gotten past that.

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/26/2008 9:32:39 PM   
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First - the fact that SEVA came on and admitted he had been "took" is a commendable action - the ole Wisdom vs Experience thing.

As a counter, back in 97 a girl I was talking to long distance told me her computer monitor had broken, I paid a hundred dollars to have it fixed/replaced.

I ended up marrying her.

It went steadily downhill from there though...


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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/27/2008 5:08:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SEVADom

MisPandora -

I considered flying out. This reminds me of another detail I had forgotten to mention.

She consistently (and, I thought, intelligently) focused on her own safety. She was going to make safe calls both during her drive, and as appropriate during the first few weeks with me -- all good, right?

But when I offered to fly out, both to meet and drive back with her (we're talking about roughly 3000 miles here, a very long drive), she said that she would be uncomfortable about being alone together during that trip because of the increased risk of being in anonymous locations along the way (I'm paraphrasing, but you get the idea). I know, but it made sense at the time.



There's your problem right there!  You could have offered to fly out to meet.  Period.  Stay in your own hotel room.  Just MEET with no expectations.  No driving anywhere together, just a MEETing to see if there's any in-person chemistry.  Betcha anything she would have gone *poof* in a heartbeat. 

What's wrong with people that they want an instant relationship anyway?  Master and i did not agree to a relationship upon the first meeting.  We agreed to meet.  We did.  We liked each other as much as we thought we would.  It worked. 

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/27/2008 8:13:36 AM   
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Babygirl2007 - please use punctuation - specifically a "."  .   It would make your posts so much easier to read - and i want to hear what you have to say :)

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RE: A cautionary tale of a successful scam (warning -- ... - 4/27/2008 8:21:05 AM   
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Necroposting... it's not just for Halloween :) Seriously, who dredges up these two year old postings? :)

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