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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 5:56:37 AM

MagiksSlave

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I am a slave Sir to my Master I have given myself to him however I never would have given myself to him as a slave if he didnt make me happy!!!

slaves that arent happy or pleased arent going to stay in the situation, no one wants to be unhappy!!!

Magik's slave

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 5:57:23 AM

MistressCamille

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

I don't buy that if you dont please a slave they will leave you. A slave is a slave for a Masters pleasure not the other way around. Granted a Master has to look out for the slaves well being. But they are not there to kiss the slaves ass. As for me I have no interest in owning a slave.

That's a good thing! With your attitude you'd probably not be able to keep one for long.

I know a Domme that used to live nearby that had that attitude. She had a slave that fell for her deeply. He stayed a long time out of his feelings for her but eventually that just wasn't enough and even he left her. Quite frankly it tore him up badly and I felt it was a shame she didn't appreciate him, especially since she was quite a severe sadist and I'm sure he went through great pain just to be with her. I feel she could not appreciate his sacrifice.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 5:58:01 AM

MagiksSlave

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quote:

ORIGINAL: twicehappy

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

and give them each a hug from me as a sister slave Im so very happy to see you in such a great situation!!!!

My Master always makes sure Im happy and takes care of me so well!!! He is in my head and always reading my mind he wants me happy

Thank you and i will hug them both for you.

I am glad to see you have found One who cares for you well also.

Oh Yes we are both very lucky

Magik's lucky slave

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:00:02 AM

slve2MastersWill

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I wonder??/ what pleases you?? I take it you have joy in just getting off and not care what your slave/sub feels ????

interesting

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:01:34 AM

darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Enlighten me please. What is the purpose of owning a slave verse having a submissive.? Losttreasure. I left out owning a submissive on purpose. This was only about slaves. It seems we have slaves acting like submissives here.

Your idea of a slave is going to be totally personal so a statement like that makes no sense really. What you find an 'ideal slave' could be anothers view of an 'ideal submissive. If you want to be pedantic, all 'slaves' are 'acting' like slaves. But don't set me off down that road...

Whatever property you have, be it slave, submissive or kajira - it is still down to personal choice. Some dominants enjoy pleasing a slave on occassion. Some enjoy pleasing on all occasions. Some do not believe its relivant and other couldn't give a rats arse. You are asking a question that will gain a vairiety of responses which is akin to the 'what is the difference between and slave and a submissive' threads. It is completely subjective. You will not learn anything from this other than everyone has a different idea... and how wonderful is that?

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:06:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

Your idea of a slave is going to be totally personal so a statement like that makes no sense really. What you find an 'ideal slave' could be anothers view of an 'ideal submissive. If you want to be pedantic, all 'slaves' are 'acting' like slaves. But don't set me off down that road...
Whatever property you have, be it slave, submissive or kajira - it is still down to personal choice. Some dominants enjoy pleasing a slave on occassion. Some enjoy pleasing on all occasions. Some do not believe its relivant and other couldn't give a rats arse. You are asking a question that will gain a vairiety of responses which is akin to the 'what is the difference between and slave and a submissive' threads. It is completely subjective. You will not learn anything from this other than everyone has a different idea... and how wonderful is that?

Thank you! yea, verily and amen.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:07:35 AM

zumala

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Logic dictates that anyone, be they Master, Dominant, Switch, submissive, OR slave has an innate desire to be happy with their life. This being the case, they will not long remain in a situation or relationship in which they are uncared for and unhappy. Unless you literally chain them down and force them to stay, in which case you are then practicing illegal and non-consentual slavery. Which is beyond the realm of BDSM and D/s.

So to answer the question more directly, yes. I would assume that a good Master or Mistress would at least occasionally do something that pleases their slave and makes them happy. Do they HAVE to please their slave at any given moment? No - but to never be concerned with pleasing their slave will eventually lead to their no longer having a slave. Like it or not, slaves are Human and have emotional needs along with the mental and physical ones.

zuma

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:09:59 AM

losttreasure

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Enlighten me please. What is the purpose of owning a slave verse having a submissive.? Losttreasure. I left out owning a submissive on purpose. This was only about slaves. It seems we have slaves acting like submissives here.

*shakes head* I won't get sucked into the debate over the definitions for submissive and slave. As far as I'm concerned, it only makes a difference to the individuals involved with one another, and as I'm not interested in being involved with you in that kind of relationship, it doesn't matter.

However, since your profile does state that you are seeking submissive women... well,
suffice it to say that twicehappy is exactly right.

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

I think the submissives comment was to bring up the fact that NO relationship is going to last if all partners concerned are not getting what they want or need from it.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:16:32 AM

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I don't buy that if you dont please a slave they will leave you. A slave is a slave for a Masters pleasure not the other way around. Granted a Master has to look out for the slaves well being. But they are not there to kiss the slaves ass. As for me I have no interest in owning a slave.

I think we can all agree that a slave being human is somewhat higher on the evolutionary and value scale than a dog or cat. Perchance you may wish to reconsider your qualifications as a pet owner (of course, there's always the likelihood that Fido and Fluffy will simply run away).

John

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:20:25 AM

KatyLied

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I'm glad the op isn't my owner, especially since he doesn't like to kiss asses.

Seriously though, why do you think people enter relationships? One main reason is to have their wants/needs fulfilled. It's not all about the Master/Dom, although many seem to have that misguided perception.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:23:00 AM

Rover

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mistrix

PLEASE a slave?
I will certaintly respect his limits as I will expect mine are as well. First and foremost. The slave should be pleased to even be a part of MY life.

If you remove the relationship aspect it reduces the Top to nothing more than a mere toy for the pleasure of fulfilling the bottom's need to scene. The Top is merely a tool for their pleasure, no diffferent than a whip, crop or dildo.

John

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:24:21 AM

SirLordTrainer

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[/quote]
I think the submissives comment was to bring up the fact that NO relationship is going to last if all partners concerned are not getting what they want or need from it.
[/quote]

Couldnt agree more.. adding also that irregardless if love was present or not in the power-exchange, we are all human beings with feelings, and as such mutual-respect is always in order.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:30:17 AM

Sinergy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

I dont know Sir but iffin you dont please your slave dont count on haveing a slave for very long.

Magik's slave

Hello A/all,

In Imperial Roman times, a wealthy person would purchase a slave for the gladiator pits. This slave would be expected to be a slave to the person, and would know that it's time here was limited.

The wealthy owner had paid a lot of money for this slave. They would expect the slave to do it's duty. On the other hand, the owner would look on the slave as an investment and a valuable commodity. The owner would provide the slave with a place to live. Horses. Slaves to serve it. Women or men as sex slaves. Food. Would take it to banquets and fetes. In this way the owner let the slave know how valuable they were to the owner. On the other hand, it also let the owned know that it was owned and expected to serve the owner in the gladiator pits.

This was one of the issues I had with the movie Gladiator. If Maximus was truly a great and renowned soldier for the gladiator pits, his owner would not have paid good money for him then hoped he survived his wounds.

While I dont necessarily intend strumpet to die fighting african lions for the entertainment of the people, I do consider her a treasure and having value. As such, I spend much of my time pleasing her. In return, she pleases me.

There is a synergy to the relationship.

As usual, this is just me and I could be wrong.

Sinergy

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:37:20 AM

Dnomyar

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It seems like the heart and love has gotten involved here. I can't seem to find the requirement that says that you have to fall in love with a slave.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:39:19 AM

CuteIrishM4F

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Respectfully,
as a sub, I'd like to think there would be some pleasure form me, beyond the basic pleasure of serving that is. Then again, it is up to the Domme.

a.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:39:58 AM

slve2MastersWill

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

It seems like the heart and love has gotten involved here. I can't seem to find the requirement that says that you have to fall in love with a slave.

I thought so.. no heart.. no love.. you must love the object.. the emotionless person. Good Luck in finding that in real life...

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:40:46 AM

PrimitiveLogic

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It is so hard to make sweeping general statements on behavior here for so many reasons. Consider all the possible aspects of thought and behavior that any and all DS/kink/BDSM/power focused/paternal/maternal/top/etc, embodies. Just as in vanilla world; there are those who are kind, compassionate, positive, nurturing, and benvolent. Then there are those who have behavior and central themes that are not so positive. Violence, abuse, manipulation, brain washing, fear mongers, predators, and on and on. Then I suppose there are those who have a variable blend of a variety of behaviors in their life...(one label was Street angel - house devil...the difference for public vs private behavior).
My point in this being; most of the posts seem to want to originate from an ethical well balanced honorable based relationship; where the Master/Mistress is "good." ( I wonder what percentage of all professed relationships in all forums and formats are positive based or not so positive based.)
Again, arguments flow from personal desire as well as practice; in that we want a somewhat positive outcome from the time we spend with that significant other. Percetage wise I loosely interpret about: 15% bliss, 70 % still searching, 10% not so positive experience, and 5% horror story. So be it slave or sub/Master/dominant or Mistress/ domme; it still boils down to finding that match that fits boths persons needs and desires. As so many other posts speak toward: if it isn't there, or isn't happening for you...just what are you getting out of the relationship? Happiness is hard to quantify...are you cared for or safe? Wait a minute...if you're property then is that an issue? If it pleases him to keep you caged, pissed on and have rats bite you as you freeze your ass in the basement...then you should be happy. (It's not my logic, but in a pure sense it is what many say....please at all cost and expense to self. Damn there's that pesky word...self. )
Just try to keep in mind that there are many predators and scam artisits who use any and all guises to get their needs met...they may not be into this for the same reasons you are. Make your time count with the best person possible...happiness then has a better opportunity to blossom.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:42:33 AM

KatyLied

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Love is not a necessary requirement for a successful power exchange relationship.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:53:17 AM

pineapplesub

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Pleasing a slave as an action is not necessary, perse, but as a result of things is. You do not have to bend over backwards, kiss my ass or what not to make me happy- however, praising me in some small way when I have tried hard to please you will please me, in turn. I.E.- I don't want you to eat me out, but if I have pleased you beyond expectations, it would please me immensely if you would just let me know. Pleasing a slave is not particularly a challenging chore, in many cases.

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RE: Pleasing a slave - 10/13/2006 6:55:38 AM

justheather

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Love is not a necessary requirement for a successful power exchange relationship.

It also does not preclude a successful power exchange relationship.
There seems to be a camp representing each of these fallacies among us.

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