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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 10:26:09 AM

MysticFireTopaz

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just curious to know how others would feel if after playing with a partner, he or she would admit to you they are much older than the profile.

Interesting question....I don't think I have ever had a person admit they are much older than their profile AFTER W/we played. However, I have had several male submissives lie to Me about their age before any play happened. I used to think that lying about one's age was a Female thing, but I have learned that is hardly the case. How I reacted to the lies differed by the circumstances.

In two instances, sub males with profiles stating that they were 50 years old contacted Me. They both seemed interesting enough to pursue contact with. During the intial telephone conversation, each one admitted to Me that he was not the age he had in his profile. One was actually 55 and the other 57. In both cases, they said they had problems with Dommes not wanting a sub over 50, so they put 50 in their profile. Since they were at least honest enough to admit this before a meeting, I was okay with it. I ended up meeting both in person, but one ended up being a flake and one ended up relocating for his job shortly after W/we met.

In another case, I was not so forgiving. A sub recently wrote to Me here, stating that he was 65 and would I still consider him even though he was outside My specified age range. This did not interest Me, so he tried again nine days later with the same screen name, this time stating that he was 53. Not only a liar, but not very bright, either. And 12 years is quite a stretch.

Another local sub has an ad here on Collarme stating that he is 35. I know him in person, and he told Me he was 42. However, he has both a dom and a sub ad on another site stating that he is 46. I found out that he really is 50 years old and looks every bit of it, if not older. No one meeting him in person would ever buy 35 or 42, so I don't know why he even bothers. Maybe someone would buy 46 if he had a hard life and/or excessive sun exposure, but what's the big difference between 46 and 50?

So I suppose in cases like the first two gentlemen, where they admitted it to Me upfront and explained why they did it, I could overlook it. The other two I can't buy.

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 10:27:07 AM

LotusSong

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Why lie about my age, when they see that nothing works the same anymore they know I am an old fart LOL

... fart? Did someone just say fart? LOL!

OK.. I'm of the "gee you sure don't look 53" experience. (btw.. what age DO I look like?)

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 10:27:10 AM

juliaoceania

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Same goes for pics; it bugs the daylights outta me when ppl put up (or worse, SEND) pictures that are five or more years old!

Yep, that's bad. When people lie about their age, they need to post an older pic so it all looks reasonable.

When I first started looking there was a man that claimed to be my age and very educated (as in a professor) who sent me a black and white photo of a very attractive man. I am guessing he took the color out digitally because the actual photo probably had some of the color bled out of it from age... the furnishings in the background and the tux he was wearing appeared to be from the late 1970s

. Needless to say I never emailed him back

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 10:48:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

OK.. I'm of the "gee you sure don't look 53" experience. (btw.. what age DO I look like?)

Mid-thirties with that room illuminating smile!

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 10:53:26 AM

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I don't lie .I am 50.
But thats not a vulnerable area for me.
Let me ask you something..do You dye your hair?
Do you wear underwire or padded bras?
Spandex under your jeans or dress?
Now ..that's a lie ..to me.
Just sayin'

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 11:04:37 AM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: subjected2006

I don't lie .I am 50.
But thats not a vulnerable area for me.
Let me ask you something..do You dye your hair?
Do you wear underwire or padded bras?
Spandex under your jeans or dress?
Now ..that's a lie ..to me.
Just sayin'

I do not consider it a lie if you let the person who is going to see you naked in on the fact that "objects in the mirror may be closer than they seem". I always inform someone I am going to develop an intimate relationship with that I am 38, have given birth, and I am not a nubile 18 year old anymore... Daddy did not expect me to be... although I am pretty comfortable with my naked self.

As far as underwire bras are concerned, it depends on your motivation to wear them... I am very large and need the support of a good bra, and I do not see the lie in this, maybe I am missing something?

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 11:13:25 AM

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During the intial telephone conversation, each one admitted to Me that he was not the age he had in his profile. One was actually 55 and the other 57. In both cases, they said they had problems with Dommes not wanting a sub over 50, so they put 50 in their profile.
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It's one thing to just be a little vain, but, my problem with that is, they are disrespecting that person, because it's their right to want someone a certain age, and it's dishonest and manipulative to lie to get what you want. Oh I know I know it happens in the world all the time...doesn't make it right.

So,....maybe the Domme/Dom is tired of waiting for the "right one", so they should just lie and agree to the slave/sub's hard limit, then when they are all nice, tied, and secure, do what they want any way? They could always explain it away...well...a lot of slaves/subs will not consider Dommes/Doms that are into it, so......

Just my opinion...for all it's worth.   But I do applaud you for forgiving these two. The person I wrote about told me before there was play as well...although, in my case, after play the "hits" just kept on coming as well.....LOL

oh I forgot...I previous poster mentioned people sharing personal information with strangers....didn't know age was so "personal"....and how much of a stranger can that person be if you are in talks to spend the rest of your life with them? Looks like that would be the time to put it all out there...I know I'm going to try and find out all I can before I move someone into my home.

Personally, if you are planning to meet someone, why lie?   They are going to find out whatever the lie is anyway, especially if you are planning something long term....why finally fall into something good and mess it up with a lie that if told up front probably wouldn't have made a difference any way? But now it does because the person will alway be wondering what other skeletons are going to fall out of your closet (had to make the obligatory Halloween reference....lol)

Again...just the way I look at things....nothing in stone for anyone else

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 11:13:54 AM

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No you're not missing something..
You proved my point in a way.
There are many types of deceptions..from lip "pufferuppers"(those are the funniest)
to underware..a lie doesnt have to be a spoken one.
And because some are aware of the deception.. makes it what?
It's still deception.
I just get so tired of the "morality police ".

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 11:56:28 AM

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In my case a good bra is a necessity that keeps my back from aching, but you can file it away as a lie all you like. Anyone with a D cup or larger knows what I am talking about... it just aint comfy to let the girls bounce around of their own free will.

And the pics on my profile with the tank... well I am braless there

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 11:57:24 AM

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my underwear never lies..........

I'm just sayin'............

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 12:01:33 PM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

my underwear never lies..........

I'm just sayin'............

This has to be placed on the Ronism thread...

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 12:04:27 PM

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I give my real age. If someone is so hung up on age, I'm not the person for them in the first place.

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 12:09:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subjected2006
to underware..a lie doesnt have to be a spoken one.

Nope, I don't get it either. I don't see how wearing a supportive bra is anything but the healthy thing to do. Anyone with half a brain should know if they are looking at a 50 year old woman who has really perky boobs that it is due most likely to the quality of underwear as 50 year old boobs are just not naturally perky enough to ride quite that high. By that reasoning, wearing any bra at all would be a lie as even a non underwire bra can contain a breast that normally would swing navel high. So are you saying that in order to be counted among the honest we all have to go braless? What about wearing clothing then....it covers up an awful lot of truths?

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 12:24:17 PM

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The lies that are truely hurtful lies (now, there is a good use of that word)
Are those that misrepresent fact.

Are those of omission that any REASONABLE person would have inferred in the contrapositive.

omitting the salient fact that you schtupped the football team last night to your husband would in my mind be a lie of omission that could at some point be construed as hurtful.
The fact that one breast is bigger than another on ALL women should be understood by reasonable people and unworthy of further clarification unless something is waaaaaaaaaay outside the norm.

Here's a big one that will hink the shit outta straight male Doms...........

If you say you are a woman, we feel it is reasonable to assume that you were born that way, and if not the case it is at least polite to mention that. Don't bring us onto Jerry Springer and propose to us, ok?

If you send us a picture of your 'perky' boobs, please have them be yours, not what you want them to be.

On the other hand, men are glorious pigs and their faults and lies are legion, the internet does not contain enough space to list the types of things that women hate in terms of our lies.

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 12:47:39 PM

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Do you wear underwire or padded bras?

wtf is that all about?
You can wear underwire bras that are not padded.

spelling edit, otherwise you'll think my bra is dumb. (underwise bra)

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 12:58:48 PM

juliaoceania

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I do not wear padded bras... but all my bras are underwire... they just are more comfortable for some reason...

And I am sure your breasts are very wise

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 1:01:41 PM

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As far as age goes... It's important and not important to me. It's about personality, and maturity. For instance, I'm not sure I'd have much in comon with some one who is fifty, verses some one who is thirty. The same goes with some one who is eighteen.

As for my age, I have no reason to lie. I'm a young pup twenty seven. However, my life differs from everyone elses. I've seen fourty year old men that have experinced and gone through less than I have. Then again, I've known twenty year olds who have more experince, and have gone through more things than I.

You can't really take age as face value. So leing about your age doesn't really matter to me. Unless you 56 and say you're 30... That's pushing it hehe.

Underwear? What's that? Hehe, ok I never wear normal undies anyhow, I have a weird alergy about certian elastic. It's not pretty. Underwire? juliaoceania, I feel your pain! I'm a 38 D at 27 they are NOT supposed to be dragging already. Come on!? I don't run, they might thwap me in the eyes or something.

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 1:05:45 PM

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I'm just sayin......

she met them, talked to them, played with them and had plenty of opportunity to clear up the truth. This wasn't about just a public posting that was none of your all's business. This was being intimate with someone who is a f'ing liar. Expect her to lie whenever it will get her what she wants, she is confronted, she needs something from you, etc. And the liars defending her I wouldn't want to be intimate with either. Its not about being proud of your age. Its about giving OTHERS the respect to make their own choices. If someone wants to play with a 40 year old and NOT a 41 year old, they have that choice. Don't take it away by dishonesty or judging their choice. And there is someone on these boards who ALWAYS comes to the defense of liars. You can bet nobody will ever be going out with him who reads these. Not EVERYBODY lies. Only liars say that to justify themselves. Some of us have careers and reputations that do not work well with dishonesty or that mindset, and that comment is ridiculous. Drug addicts think EVERYBODY does drugs. Alcoholics think EVERYBODY drinks. Cheaters think EVERYBODY cheats. I suppose pedophiles think EVERYBODY is turned on by children. Lots of people are always honest for a million reasons, not the least of which is lying comes back to bite you in the ass. Besides, it is wrong and disrespectful to everyone around you. I know many honest people I would trust their words on anything. And have met alot I wouldn't believe if they told me the sky is blue. Liars love to put their own agenda on everyone else. Thats what lying all the time does; it distorts the truth, you start lying to yourself, you don't know what is reality any more. I'm done. This is a waste because the truthful people already know, and the liars will keep lying to themselves.

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 1:13:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: subjected2006

I don't lie .I am 50.
But thats not a vulnerable area for me.
Let me ask you something..do You dye your hair?
Do you wear underwire or padded bras?
Spandex under your jeans or dress?
Now ..that's a lie ..to me.
Just sayin'

No. Although I have done it before. I'm not 30 yet and I have silver hairs coming in!
No. Why bother? I'm 32A and they're not gonna get any bigger. *sigh*
No... Although spandex might be fun to wear, now that I think about it.

zuma

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RE: lying about yr age - 10/14/2006 1:19:23 PM

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Well...like a friend inspired upon me telling him my sisters bra-busting friend with the come-hither smile was in fact only 18. "Well then perfect...I ain't but 19."

Hell, a few years ago, I was carded for beer...and she insisted. I couldn't figure out if she was a joking or was she really blind...thought of giving her a dollar and telling her it was a $50, but obviously, Iam a little too honest for that.

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